concerning poison

[Rastian Majere]

got a bit of a problem:
have 2 weapons. one i can add my level poison to (20 envenom, 17+3)
the other weapon i can only add level 17 poison to.
r-hand weapon
guarded rapier
9.0 dps
8.4 clamped dps
3.5 weapon speed
7.9 dps effective damage
can add lvl 20 poison to it.

l-hand
main gauche
9.6 dps
8.4 clamped dps
2.8 weapon speed
8.3 effective damage
can add only level 17 poison to it.

either i'm overlooking something simple. (which is more than likely the case) or something has been changed.
someone will probably point out the obvious and i'll go :eek2: and smack my head into the wall,

 

[MKJ]

Eh yu not got envenom skill on your first weapon have you and not on the new sword? Always dodgy putting skills on weapons.

 

[Rastian Majere]

on my main hand weapon i have no +skill to envenom on the weapon but i can use level 20 poison on it. on my off hand i have +3 to envenom but i can only use level 17 poison on it. i didn't think it matter'd as long as my over all skill was level 20 envenom. ie: 17+3

 

[Dandare]

on my main hand weapon i have no +skill to envenom on the weapon but i can use level 20 poison on it. on my off hand i have +3 to envenom but i can only use level 17 poison on it. i didn't think it matter'd as long as my over all skill was level 20 envenom. ie: 17+3

What you should be doing bud is adding +5 into your armour for envenom thus always having 15+5 and leaving for points for stealth etc,I know working the +5 on the armour takes a lot of imbue points but it's very easy to cap thid with resists and stats anyway

 

[Rookiescot]

Er .. what I'd do is put the +5 poison skill on a spare pair of boots. When you want to apply poison you swap boots.
That way your not "wasting" imbue points on something you only need to use when out of combat.
Hard part I always found was remembering to swap the boots back.
But then again I'm pretty thick.

 

[Zerach]

You can't apply poision the normal way since the gameunequips the weapon if you drag poison to it so you will only have 17 envenom. However, if you load your poison by putting the poison on the Quickbar, the weapon remains seeted and you can use +envenom bonuses on the weapons.

The QB-poison will cycle through mainhand-offhand-twohand and apply poison in that order (as long as weapons are empty, other wise it will start overwrite)

 

[CuddleBunny!]

when you envenom a weapon you unequip it, so if you got 15 envenom and +5 envenom on your weapon, then try to use a level 20 venom on it, you will only have 15 envenom cause the stats on the weapon dosent count when you envenon.. dunno if it made any sense

 

[Rastian Majere]

what i don't understand is, i have 17 evenom. i have +3 to envenom on my left hand weapon giving me 17+3 (20 envenom). i can use level 20 poison on my right hand weapon but only level 17 poison on my right hand weapon.
if it's a matter of imbueding my armor that's not too much of a problem. i put the +3 on my weapon cuz i'd somehow forgetten to imbue any +'s to envenom on my armor when i spellcrafted it. how the hell i forgot i'll never know since i capped everything else.

 

[Dandare]

what i don't understand is, i have 17 evenom. i have +3 to envenom on my left hand weapon giving me 17+3 (20 envenom). i can use level 20 poison on my right hand weapon but only level 17 poison on my right hand weapon.
if it's a matter of imbueding my armor that's not too much of a problem. i put the +3 on my weapon cuz i'd somehow forgetten to imbue any +'s to envenom on my armor when i spellcrafted it. how the hell i forgot i'll never know since i capped everything else.

Forget the +3 bud and always cap at 5,to be honest if I remember right was same day server messed up? So was prolly a bug if the 17+3 was'nt working

 

[Agrigo]

what i don't understand is, i have 17 evenom. i have +3 to envenom on my left hand weapon giving me 17+3 (20 envenom). i can use level 20 poison on my right hand weapon but only level 17 poison on my right hand weapon.

When you apply poisons onto a weapon the game does it in the following way :
1)un-equips the weapon your poisoning
2)calculates your level of envenoming
3)the level of the poison
4)actully puts it on the weapon
5)re-equips the weapon with poison ready for use

So what happens to you with your left hander is that when you get to point 2, your weapon is not equiped so your not getting the +3 env so cant use the level 20 poison.

Hope that helped somehow.

 

[Equador]

when you envenom a weapon you unequip it, so if you got 15 envenom and +5 envenom on your weapon, then try to use a level 20 venom on it, you will only have 15 envenom cause the stats on the weapon dosent count when you envenon.. dunno if it made any sense

Well said! <3 Bunny!

 

[Haroat]

You can't apply poision the normal way since the gameunequips the weapon if you drag poison to it so you will only have 17 envenom. However, if you load your poison by putting the poison on the Quickbar, the weapon remains seeted and you can use +envenom bonuses on the weapons.

The QB-poison will cycle through mainhand-offhand-twohand and apply poison in that order (as long as weapons are empty, other wise it will start overwrite)

zerach rules the world, listen to him.

 

[Rastian Majere]

finally i understand thank you so very much. i re-read the posts several times and i guess i was having some kind of mental brain fart cuz i was missing what you guys were trying to explain. but, since i only have +'s to env on my left hander when i apply poison to it, the game unequipes it and i, in effect, lose any +'s. you guys are brilliant thank you
Dan, ideally yes +5 to envenom would be prefered. that's why i spec'd 17 envenom in the first place. 17+5 gives the str/con debuff poison. but, as i mentioned i forgot to add any +'s to envenom on my suit. (with by the way in an mp lvl 26 set that my missus tailored for me. she'll kill me when she finds out i need a new one ) so it's either remake the suit or make a pair of boots with +5 to env. probably easier but it means i'll have to do more swapping

 

[Zerach]

Or try putting the poisions on the quickbar and run as you are.

 

[Rastian Majere]

Or try putting the poisions on the quickbar and run as you are.

yea i meant to add that in my reply as well but i forgot. i think i'm getting old, keep forgetting even the smallest of things

 

[Dandare]

yea i meant to add that in my reply as well but i forgot. i think i'm getting old, keep forgetting even the smallest of things

I know how you feel forgetting stuff by the way whats my wife called again maybe you or Kitti can tell me

 

[Rastian Majere]

who's kitti.......... :eek2: hahah