Come play

[Kaap]

Had a great time and I'll arrange this again so beware of the Green Monster Zerg.

Arrange some skills along with it keke, zerglings.

 

[Killrake]

:wub:

actually, YOU (fom) started this thread to get attention, NOT anyone whining about your zerg. very sad

and fuck me sideways for giving you the attention you want

Actually is was ONE Fomer that started this thread witout the rest of us did not know, and when he told us he had done that most of us said "no why did u do that" so dont judge everyone after one person, at least we had fun

1) yeah S T F U gimps ^^ (whatever hehehe)

2) why green you puked on urselfs from shame lmao

:wub:

Arrange some skills along with it keke, zerglings.

:wub:

 

[Vodkafairy]

:wub:

Actually is was ONE Fomer that started this thread witout the rest of us did not know, and when he told us he had done that most of us said "no why did u do that" so dont judge everyone after one person, at least we had fun

ye you're right

the one who made this thread is sad tho .

 

[Xandax]

I don't intentionally go around trying to piss of people - I play nice and behave nice, and appologize when I accidentally pulls a pulled mob etc.
But I have no problem pissing off wannabe elite people that think they are "leet" for how they play and how much time they play a computer game, or because they eBayed some characters instead of leveling themselves, and think they are high an mighty.
I have no problem pissing off people that think they hold the Holy Grail of DAoC and thinks that everybody should play as they do.

This game isn't CounterStrike (although some people try and act like it is) or Diablo or what not.
It contains a Realm vs Realm warfare endgame, which means that my "enemies" in this game are Hibernia and Albion characters (Not the people playing them - sure most are nice people).
But giving them a "fair" chance, as some claim they do when they run their perfect created and recreated/rerolled setups is not my agenda (oh no, savages are fotm, better reroll or ebay me one)

Fair chance for me involves no cheating, but other then that it is open hunting season on realm enemies as I expect there is on Midgard players, when viewed from other realms. This means I expect people to add, zerg, run away - do what they can, as I will when I get the chance. Don't like it? Pay my subscription or report me to GOA and tell them how RvR is supposed to be and that I'm in violation.

Also many of the supposed "elite" people complain, but if I run around with my RR2-RR3 characters when I finally has a chance to play, then what chance do I have when running into RR8-RR11 people that also roam. The chance I have is almost equal zero, none, nada, zip.
So when we have an event planned for weeks (and hopefully reoccurring) then sure - I'll jump at the chance, so I don't get rolled down by zergs or high RR people that are only out to get the easy RP from casual players like me.
And I'll be danged when I finally have some time to play the game due to real life constraint that I will not run around being simple cannon fodder to these people.
And this - by the way - mirrors many Albion players defense of when they zerg. Only difference is that we ran 2.5FG (18 in the beginning) -> 3.5FG (at the end) guild group with extremely poor setups.

We zerged some full groups, yes - we zerged some (solo) stealthers or other solo people as well - we won some fights against a somewhat even number of enemies - and we got out butt handed to us a couple of times by some high RR hibernia groups and finally a large albion force. But we paid for - and played - the game.

 

[vintervargen]

you dont like elitists huh? we/they pay our/their fucking subs just like you. what gives YOU the right to dislike elitists, but we/they cant dislike you (zergers) ?

 

[gravedigger]

lol Xandax you feeling ok tbh?


why you always bringin up counter-strike its a shooter this isnt one comprendo? :eek2:

 

[Kalba]

you dont like elitists huh? we/they pay our/their fucking subs just like you. what gives YOU the right to dislike elitists, but we/they cant dislike you (zergers) ?

Cause he is right, elitists are wrong!

Casuaplayer4thewin, but ye Fom Zzzzzz... No offence but after FoM is in emain, it's dead there

 

[Lizz]

1.Is this issue to zerg or run fg overall a daoc "problem" , or does it accord more often to diff servers?

2.I mean if it is a big amount of ppl on every server running fg and think thats the only way and visa versa, has mythic ever discused any suggestion to please both type of players?

3.Any1 seen any desent suggestion about this issue?

just some toughts

 

[vintervargen]

go odins. in fg's. if you get zerged/owned, bring more. or do the same in emain. but for fuck sake, do not START with 3fg.

 

[Xandax]

you dont like elitists huh? we/they pay our/their fucking subs just like you. what gives YOU the right to dislike elitists, but we/they cant dislike you (zergers) ?

Because unlike wannbe "elite" players - I don't think I'm better then anybody, because of how much time I play, or how I play a computergame.
So don't want me to complain about "elite players"? Then such players should try to think twice and stop complaining about others as well, if they don't like it done back.
I don't think I'm better - or worse - then most anybody else playing this game, regardless of what RR they are, how many L50 characters they have, whether or not they like PvE more then RvR, prefere Zerg vs. FG or vice versa or even people prefering solo.
I do however think I'm a better person, then the people that think/claim they are better people then others due to the way they play or how high RR they are, or how many characters they have bought on ebay.

lol Xandax you feeling ok tbh?


why you always bringin up counter-strike its a shooter this isnt one comprendo? :eek2:

Thank you - I'm feeling fine.
I'm just flabbergasted at some of the responses people give.

You can compare games across genres easily - and the reference is more to the mechanics and community then the actual game itself.
Some of the public communities I've seen in Counterstrike is just as mixed with whining, complaining and percived "elite" behavoir as some of the public community regarding DAoC. Here it is bragging about RRs - in Counterstrike it is frags. Difference is the weapon used.
Counterstrike also has limit on the number of people vs. other peoples. You don't see a 20 man team against 8 man teams. Thus it is excellent to indicate that people wanting such behaviour in a game as DAoC, maybe are playing the wrong game.
I like to play Counterstrike as well - but haven't done so for many years - so it isn't a stab at the game. Just a stab at some of the people revolving the game(s).

Cause he is right, elitists are wrong!

Casuaplayer4thewin, but ye Fom Zzzzzz... No offence but after FoM is in emain, it's dead there

Sure. You are entitled to your view about our "zerg". I've often felt areas were dead after I've been zerged by a body of enemies twice or trice the size of what I ran in (from solo to FG to 2-3FGs). But it is part of the game - and we are all players, that play this game.
Now it isn't as if Emain is the only zone in this game - and soon it is gone. There are plenty of other places to go for people to get away from the larger groups. Nobody is forcing people to put on a Hibernian necklace and porting there if Albion or Midgard, and nobody is forcing Hibernan players to run there.


Also - think of it next time one of the "elite" FGs run over a soloer or duo. You are zerging them and destroying their fun and way of play. Sounds familiar, dosen't it.....

 

[Zeratuhl]

and the whiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine

 

[Leel]

Yeah, VF, flamebaiting can be fun Happens pretty often here on FH really.

 

[vintervargen]

xandax, if casual hib players can go odins with 1 FG, why cant FoM?

oh and i find the personality-judging a bit interesting. wanna go one step ahead and compare peoples backgrounds, lives, parents, etc too?

the simple answer is due to realm population imbalance, 1fg+ is not a viable rvr option in the long run.

 

[Kalba]

FoM out again btw, fear the green killing machine

 

[Vodkafairy]

Yeah, VF, flamebaiting can be fun Happens pretty often here on FH really.

running in superiour numbers to intentionally grief other players is a sad thing to do, and if they don't give you the negative attention you obviously like, you get desperate and make threads like this

and to xandax, people don't have to be 'correct' on a forum, it's pretty stupid to expect people to make well formulated sentences with politically correct arguments

you run with superiour numbers, destroying emain when it was actually quite fun until you came, of course you'll get whined at, of course you'll be called names

time to wake up and realise rvr in old frontiers isn't epic sieges and battles lasting for days, good rvr is about finding fights where both parties have equal chance to win. i don't believe you actually enjoy killing people with superiour numbers all the time, or at least it will be really boring, really soon

fact is, your MEAN LEAN GREEN MACHINE EHEEEHEHE kills all the fun in emain and i think it's extremely sad some of your players get so overexcited they feel the need to rub it in on FH

 

[AngelHeal]

running in superiour numbers to intentionally grief other players is a sad thing to do, and if they don't give you the negative attention you obviously like, you get desperate and make threads like this

and to xandax, people don't have to be 'correct' on a forum, it's pretty stupid to expect people to make well formulated sentences with politically correct arguments

you run with superiour numbers, destroying emain when it was actually quite fun until you came, of course you'll get whined at, of course you'll be called names

time to wake up and realise rvr in old frontiers isn't epic sieges and battles lasting for days, good rvr is about finding fights where both parties have equal chance to win. i don't believe you actually enjoy killing people with superiour numbers all the time, or at least it will be really boring, really soon

fact is, your MEAN LEAN GREEN MACHINE EHEEEHEHE kills all the fun in emain and i think it's extremely sad some of your players get so overexcited they feel the need to rub it in on FH

blablabla

MAKE A MOVIE FFS!! i cant w8 for ur next 1

 

[Vodkafairy]

blablabla

MAKE A MOVIE FFS!! i cant w8 for ur next 1

well have fun waiting, please stop nagging about it, ok?

 

[AngelHeal]

well have fun waiting, please stop nagging about it, ok?

no?

 

[Lethul]

i dont really care about FoM zerg or random zergs, they are fun to fight etc. its when high rr opted grp zergs it starts getting dull. imo ofc

 

[Leel]

I agree that it's not fun to zerg all the time. Tbh, we don't do it that often. Sometimes we do it every sunday, sometimes we do it once a month, and this weekend, we did it both saturday and sunday. It's fun to run fg too, but I don't really want to build a fixed fg either, cuz it excludes people, and it makes the game seem more like work. And getting random fg normally isn't very much fun.

 

[Vodkafairy]

I agree that it's not fun to zerg all the time. Tbh, we don't do it that often. Sometimes we do it every sunday, sometimes we do it once a month, and this weekend, we did it both saturday and sunday. It's fun to run fg too, but I don't really want to build a fixed fg either, cuz it excludes people, and it makes the game seem more like work. And getting random fg normally isn't very much fun.

ye but you either dont rvr at all, or go 3-4 fg, there is something in between you know

 

[Haki]

Midgard rocks albies and hippies ;p

 

[Phule_Gubben]

ye but you either dont rvr at all, or go 3-4 fg, there is something in between you know

This was the first time in a very long time that we organized something with more then 2 fg's. Sure there has been many fom's out at the same time but then again, we're a big guild and we can't tell ppl to don't go to this or that zone. Would you?

 

[Stallion]

FoM insta die as fg, FoM soloers (if any) insta die. FoM as guild is crap in the rvr aspect. But who is enjoying themselfs most? FoM or the leet wannabies?

 

[Vodkafairy]

This was the first time in a very long time that we organized something with more then 2 fg's. Sure there has been many fom's out at the same time but then again, we're a big guild and we can't tell ppl to don't go to this or that zone. Would you?

two nights in a row now ;p

still, no need to run ALL together, you can make separate groups.. 2 x 1.5 fg?

 

[bult]

The shitty players need to have thier fun too and if this is the only way then let them i guess.

 

[Runolas]

FoM insta die as fg, FoM soloers (if any) insta die. FoM as guild is crap in the rvr aspect. But who is enjoying themselfs most? FoM or the leet wannabies?

FoM do run as a fg and there is a fixed grp running that are doing very well and other fg's we make have little trouble fighting random FG's (at RR4-7) and lower RR guild grps, but against you, RR, LA, FC and AD we have little to none chance of actually winning the the battle. You'r RR8++ grp with 2xgrp Purge, Single purge, BaoD and MoC on everyone and is dog - come on!!. Even if we played as good as you, we would not stand a chance in hell - and you know this.

As for solo'ers there are several us that are doing ok.

I really don't think a guild with 111M rp are doing crap. It's on an individual lvl that we are not close to you, mainly because we have different agenda's (defend the realm, mix PvE/RvR and an including guild), e.i. not the hardcore 24/7 attitude = less RvR playtime = less skilled. With 2fg's we can smash zerg's up to 4-5fg's as well as flattend any elite gg out there (oki, so we fuck up once in a while - big deal).

You can bet your ass we're having a blast. The more whining the better imho. :kissit:

As for this thread - silly imho, but what's done is done.

 

[Drav]

Jesus another zerg whine, oh well, more will be inc very soon I guess, thats if the server holds on tuesday.

 

[Vodkafairy]

You'r RR8++ grp with 2xgrp Purge, Single purge, BaoD and MoC on everyone and is dog - come on!!. Even if we played as good as you, we would not stand a chance in hell - and you know this.

 

[Xandax]

xandax, if casual hib players can go odins with 1 FG, why cant FoM?
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FOM runs in Odin's as well. We have people that run in Hadrians Wall. And occasionally we run further into enemy territories. (Do you?)
So your point is excatly what?
I'll tell you what you point comes across as - and that is you wanting large forces out of your own little playground so you easier can "pharm" casual player or even numbers of lower RR players.

<snip>
and to xandax, people don't have to be 'correct' on a forum, it's pretty stupid to expect people to make well formulated sentences with politically correct arguments

you run with superiour numbers, destroying emain when it was actually quite fun until you came, of course you'll get whined at, of course you'll be called names

time to wake up and realise rvr in old frontiers isn't epic sieges and battles lasting for days, good rvr is about finding fights where both parties have equal chance to win. i don't believe you actually enjoy killing people with superiour numbers all the time, or at least it will be really boring, really soon

fact is, your MEAN LEAN GREEN MACHINE EHEEEHEHE kills all the fun in emain and i think it's extremely sad some of your players get so overexcited they feel the need to rub it in on FH

Although I belive, that if people wish to communicate across the national language borders - they should at least give an effort to make themselves understandable by others in the common used language. English isn't my first language either. And if they wish to complain that what "we" do - did - is wrong, then you'd better back it up with more them simple whining and "skillz, Raapees" or what not.
But that is besides the point, and I don't know from where you pulled that into the thread.

I've - as mentioned - got no problems with people complaining because they didn't like us running 2.5-3.5 FG. But then there is plenty of other options to go to. I don't always like it when I get run over by a large mass of enemies - in emain as well as other locations either - but I don't complain about it, because it is their prerogative.

Secondly- it is impossible to grief anybody in a game build on the concept of "consentual PvP". It isn't like we run somewhere where a zerg isn't expected, killing off lowbes that tries to level again and again.
We run in the most zerged zone in the game on this server (and I'd imagine on the others as well) killing people that volentary port/run out there.
Vintervagen in his "wisdom" suggested we could run elsewhere as well - well that goes for most everybody else. People willingly enter the frontiers for RvR.
Emain is the land of the zergs, thus it is natural that we run there when we gather 2FG+ forces.
It is where Albion players have zerged for a very long time as well - just to mention some.

Large scale combat is part of this game, like it or not - and I think that is exceptionally clear with some of the things that Mythic has placed into the game since game start.
Good RvR isn't running as RR3 on my current "Xandax character" into RR8+ players where the battle is over in 10-15 seconds.
Good RvR is subjective - I've been in very large battles and sieges in RvR and thoese are most fun for me - so thus, I'll seek them out.
Good RvR was what we had last night in our 2FG runs with the Albion players around ATK, AMG and Tower in Emain. (Cudo to you guys, we wipped you and you wipped us)

Also expecting a large guild to fragment into small groups at a guild event (which have been planned for quite some time) is kind of ignorant, I'll be sure to come complain next time I get zerged down by an enemy twice my size, whether I run solo or not, because "it is destroying my fun, and they are skilless noobs"

As for posting on FH to "wind other people up" - well then it does seem that it is the standard of posting here - which is why I normally don't bother posting in here in such threads as this.
So the fact that the original poster even made his post is nothing out of the "normal" on this forum. If people used to forum with better tones and more respect, then maybe - such posts as the original, would have been better forumlated as well.

But anyways. I had fun, Others had fun - we had some good battles and we had some times we zerged down some enemies.
All in all - nothing different then what I've seen in this game since Beta, and the complaints here are nothing new either.