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[amase]

there we go...

to give you motivation(big one),if someone help me fix my PC problem in next 48 hours he get really really huge reward from me!I wont write it here coz I am not sure if it is against the Freedys rules to do it...

anyway,will drop everything I know about my problem:


without any reason I started getting PC freezz while playing daoc and after few seconds of that I get blue screen,psychical memory dump coused by gfx card file...

I called one company in my town and two "PC geeks" cleaned my PC fully of viruses...so thats not my problem!

my gfx card is Nvidia GeForce 6800,128MBs

I cleaned all of mine PC coolers and for half hour blue screens stoped but freezzing continued!

also tryed 5 different gfx card drivers,still same problem with any of them!

with Sandra Lite program I get msg my Video BIOS needs update(cant find it on web but tbh,I dont have a clue what that is even and is it possible that could sort my problem? )

tryed reinstalling whole daoc,tryed checking all files etc etc...

tryed playing need for speed carbon demo to check if problem will repate and it DID!

the gfx card has cooler on it btw...I am preatty sure that problem is that card is overheating,becouse you could almost burn your fingers if you try to touch it when play daoc...and ofc in next few mins I get bloody blue screen)

(its 7am here atm and I might forgot some info,but I will check this thread alot to see your ideas or questions)

ANY QUESTIONS DROP ON MY MAIL amase.amase@hotmail.com AND ASWELL YOU CAN ASK ME BY MAIL WHAT IS REWARD!!!

thanx in advance

Amase

 

[Taxii]

I assume you run Windows XP ?

On the Blue screen ( BSOD! - Blue screen of death ) theres an Error ID. If you write that down on a piece of paper and search on Microsuck for that code, then you should get an explernation of where the problem was caused.

Im pretty sure that its not your BIOS that needs an update, but more a RAM problem.. Either the system RAM or the RAM on your GFX card, and if its the gfx card then you have a problem ^^

Do you have another gfx card somewhere that you can test with ? ( remember to uninstall the old GFX drivers before removing the card if you want to be on the safe side )

 

[Jimmae]

your gfx card is just overheating, either replace the heatsink and fan on it, or just get a new one.

wont be a problem with ram etc

 

[shanison]

I'm getting a similar problem on my PC. Run XP Pro and have a Geo 5200 128MB gfx card. Usually with DAoC, but in most programs screen will just freeze and I have to reboot. I've diagnosed this down to the gfx card overheating (only started with the recent spate of hot weather), so now trying to convince the wife I need to get a new base unit! (well, good opportunity to upgrade my whole system to a Core 2 or higher!)

 

[Overdriven]

People who've said it's not a RAM issue didn't read properly. You're nuking your machine. (Physical memory dumps are when you use > 100% of your RAM)

I've been getting it when playing games will full graphics, it's a mix of your graphic capabilities and RAM support. (1/2 mentioned above)

Fixes:

- Update gfx drivers (latest)
- Turn down your graphics, turn off catamodels etc.
- Upgrade RAM (Or keep graphics low)
- New heat-sync for your fan. They're pretty easy to add on, as you usually get a install guide to it.

 

[Tuthmes]

AGP or PCI-e?

 

[SoulFly]

Expand the size of your swap file aswell if needed.

 

[Roo Stercogburn]

Check the heat sink on the graphics card is *tight*.

I had a similar problem with my 6800 and it turned out that right out of the box the heat sink was not as tight as it could be. I tightened it up and the problems stopped immediately. I was showing similar symptoms.

I'd also gone through a lot of the checks you've tried.

Hope this helps.

 

[>.< Pooned]

my answer. . .



all of the above! xD


(i did most of em to keep my old pc still in good shape )

 

[thergador]

new cooling for your fx card here

try replacing the fan 1st its the cheapest option

 

[Overdriven]

Zelman fans are nice..

 

[collegien]

hmm ... well this is odd.
I have this problem also and know of 2 other people that have it too. I put it down to video card overheating as well, although it has run fine for nearly 2 years. This has only started happening over the last 2 weeks.

So the question on my mind is, could there be any other reason for it or is it just a coincidence that we all have the same issue?

 

[tierk]

Had the same crap on my pc and in the end after changing gfx, ram, soundcard, and fans, discovered it was my motherboard.

 

[Roo Stercogburn]

Components expand as they are heated (ie when they are switched on) and contract as they cool (when everything is shut down).

Over time they can become loose, even if its only by the tiniest amount. This can lead to memory or adapter cards needing to be reseated that have been in place a very long time.

If the heat sink (note I do not say fan) on a graphics card is not very firmly pressed against the processor(s) on the card, it will not do its job at all properly.

I've seen this happen before on PCs where they haven't even been modified since original purchase.

I'm not saying its what is happening here but its a situation I've seen crop up from time to time.

 

[Bloodcore]

change ur motherboard and/or ram

 

[Enli]

Had the same crap on my pc and in the end after changing gfx, ram, soundcard, and fans, discovered it was my motherboard.

mine shortcircuited properly and toke out my boot-sector :/

 

[shanison]

Well I thought it was my gfx card overheating. Bought new fan (previously only had heatsink), and left PC running for 5 hours without any problems.

Good I thought, so started up DAoC, managed to do one whole TD, then frooze. Any restarts after that and it frooze. So now I put it down to overheating in some way. Have reseated everything. Seems I only get the problem if I start a game up (only tried with DAoC and EVE), which then seems to affect the gfx card. And the fan and heatsink do not feel hot to the touch.

Ah well, seems like a good excuse to give the wife so I can upgrade the whole system

 

[Tuthmes]

GFX cards get very hot usually anyway (~90C they should be able to handle, not healthy though). Try disable'ing shadow and fast write for AGP/PCI-e in BIOS.

 

[Roo Stercogburn]

Well I thought it was my gfx card overheating. Bought new fan (previously only had heatsink), and left PC running for 5 hours without any problems.

Good I thought, so started up DAoC, managed to do one whole TD, then frooze. Any restarts after that and it frooze. So now I put it down to overheating in some way. Have reseated everything. Seems I only get the problem if I start a game up (only tried with DAoC and EVE), which then seems to affect the gfx card. And the fan and heatsink do not feel hot to the touch.

Ah well, seems like a good excuse to give the wife so I can upgrade the whole system

Interesting. Does your card have a power connector that should connect directly to your PSU? And if so, is your PSU man enough for the task (assuming its connected). If the PSU isn't strong enough, it could also manifest as problems once you try to do something clever with the graphics card.

EDIT: Thought about this a bit more. I've seen exactly this happen in the past. Worth checking. I was going to suggest disconnecting peripherals but I'm not convinced you'd free up enough power for this test to be valid. Definately worth checking th power supply unit though matey

 

[Theseus]

I had a similar problem with counterstrike a couple years back when i still played it.

It turned out it was some kinf of bug with the soundcard... maybe try and play with your soundcard unplugged?

 

[shanison]

Well, I did wonder about the PSU. I don't think it is heat now, as I tried it first thing this morning, and only got as far as the windows logon screen. There is a clicking sound just before it freezes, which I thought was coming from the motherboard, but may be some kind of trip in the PSU (?)

I have recently added a 4-port 2.0 USB card, internal card reader and external USB HD. I have now tried it with these disconnected, and the power to the gfx card (I have on-board sound, so cannot remove that), along with the power to the chassis fan, the secondary HD and the two CD drives and it managed to get past the windows logon.

Will do some more testing to see at which point it fails.

Thanks for the advice so far

 

[shanison]

Well, still working with no freezes, even after a full evenings DAoC.

Certainly looks like it is power, and probably the 3.3V or 5V area, due to the items I have removed/disconnected. So a new case and PSU is certainly going to be cheaper than a new system . Just means the Core2 Duo will have to wait a bit longer.

 

[amase]

ok will answer one by one now...

tryed RegCure program from microsuch-no luck...

 

[amase]

Expand the size of your swap file aswell if needed.

How to do that?

 

[amase]

Check the heat sink on the graphics card is *tight*.

I had a similar problem with my 6800 and it turned out that right out of the box the heat sink was not as tight as it could be. I tightened it up and the problems stopped immediately. I was showing similar symptoms.

I'd also gone through a lot of the checks you've tried.

Hope this helps.

ok,this sound nice(as you had same gfx card adn same problem) but...
dont understand what do you mean by "tight heat sink"? dont understand what about you talking(lack of english skills QQ)

 

[amase]

GFX cards get very hot usually anyway (~90C they should be able to handle, not healthy though). Try disable'ing shadow and fast write for AGP/PCI-e in BIOS.

need lil bit better walkthrou for this bud if thats possible

 

[amase]

I had a similar problem with counterstrike a couple years back when i still played it.

It turned out it was some kinf of bug with the soundcard... maybe try and play with your soundcard unplugged?

and same here...

how do I do that?how do I unplugg my soundcard?

 

[Raven]

Open your PC up (with it turned off ofc) and pull it out. Assuming its a separate sound card and not on-board (part of the mother board)

The heat sink is the copper box thing above the processor Usually has a large fan on top.

 

[Roo Stercogburn]

Amase,

the fan on the graphics card is only part of what keeps it cool. You'll probably notice a kind of metal plate pressed against it, which has ridges on it. This is the heat sink. If its not pressed hard against the processor, heat doesn't transfer from the processor properly and then heat builds up in the processor, basically making it a sick puppy. There are usually a series of screws that allow you to make sure that the heat sink is pressed up against the graphics processor properly. Tightening these screws makes sure that the contact between the processor and the heat sink is good. Be careful not to tighten too much of course in case you break the graphics processor.