Clerics and Spreadhealing

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Gabrial

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Clerics and Spreadhealing (and other clericy questions)

Erm,

1) Whens Spread healing coming into play
2) Will we get a respec when it does
3) Which will peeps want, rejuv or enhance clerics...
 
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Gabrial

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Im really confused looking at the char builder...

Are all those things in play now for enhance clerics? I mean Aid Melee Damage buff and Strength from Adversity?

Sorry for the dumb questions, i been away too long:)

/edit : and whats a heal proc add spell do?
 
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Gabrial

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OK - depending on what the Heal Proc spell does, how it works and when its implemented these are my two end game specs im thinking of...

Enhance 43
Rejuv 32
Smite 6

or

Enhance 35
Rejuv 41
Smite 3
(this one loses me the 16% resist buffs but I gain some nice rejuv spells)

Thoughts very much appreciated:)
 
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Gabrial

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Er no - why would I like being a buff bot?

Could you expand? Do you think my enhance is too high with this spec?
 
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Nightchill

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40 rejuve is last rezz i think? always appreciated
 
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- Pathfinder -

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I'm 41/35/3 :p

35 enhance does get you the first 16% resist buff, which happens to be body ;)
 
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old.Cher

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we have a druid in Hibernia who is pure enhance.... and strangely isn't a buffbot,i've grouped with him several times, and he laughs about being a player controlled buffbot, and how crap his heals are.

each player to his own style!
 
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Silenzio

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=)

maybe just my opinion ....mmm surley but...

im talking as lvl 50 armsman n lvl 50 clerik

also as kaster...


what i can tell u by thos point ov view is...

what i like is the demez the clerik could have ... is the aoe mez
n the stun ... the clerik can hanlde in rvr or pve... also resist buf r nice

been higly buffed is good rylly nice to have over 300+ str
yess but... ull will still get all the base buff tha r good
not saing keep enhan to 0 just not take it as ur main skilll

n rejuv too...


again just my opinion... u can do what u like mmm better U MUST
do what u like

but ... think that full enhan or rejuv r strongly dependent by others

smite clerki can deal huge ammount ov damage
killing faster help as healing or so...

but u can still kast n heal spell n a damage one...
anyhow in rvr been healed is rlly hard cuz the damage is fast n huge

all taht cuz ur tempelate is kinda extrame =) with only 3 or 6 in smite =)

take in mind u could have need to solo sometimes ...

well well think ive confused u all =))) i hope at least as my self bb
 
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old.windforce

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translation?

no pun intended but with english not native i can't read through this (slang?)

olezdad is 40 rejuv, 35 enhance and 9 smite (+11) and i kinda like it
 
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Bethor

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I'm currently 35smite/30rej/27enh which i find can keep the group alive. My smite a bit crappy but it's always fun to throw a smite once in a while. My spec is alot more group friendly than my old smite spec. I've got the first resist buff and will have the 17% melee buff.

Also i have the second to last mezz which is great when you need to get a pet/tank off you.
 
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Addlcove

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spreadheal is already in play, and a lovely thing it is ;)
 
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Aravis

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The cleric demez listed on catacombs (and elsewhere i think) is wrong, they don't get one... :(
 
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Silenzio

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What me, as tank or caster like from a clerik in rvr

Originally posted by Silenzio
=)


what i like is the demez the clerik could have ... is the aoe mez
n the stun ... the clerik can hanlde in rvr or pve... also resist buf r nice


way of play, a clerik... mixed spec give better result by me
n smite is nice damge rlly near to kaster

Originally posted by Silenzio

but ... think that full enhan or rejuv r strongly dependent by others

smite clerki can deal huge ammount ov damage
killing faster help as healing or so...


anyhow in rvr been healed is rlly hard cuz the damage is fast n huge


i wrote all this crap becouse his template has a so low smite
too low for a non buff bot, again by my opinion

Originally posted by Silenzio

all taht cuz ur tempelate is kinda extrame =) with only 3 or 6 in smite =)

take in mind u could have need to solo sometimes ...


clerki i play with has 44 +11 smite 23 +11 rejuv 21+11 enhanc
n + the rr lvl...

chopping yellow con before they reach me is so nice...
n if they have harder resit just need a stun to kast again ;P

i rlly anjoy it...
n wish ther was more smiters arround gaist all thos buff bot camping atk =)

mmm hope is better now
 
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kr0n

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Originally posted by Silenzio
=)

maybe just my opinion ....mmm surley but...

im talking as lvl 50 armsman n lvl 50 clerik

also as kaster...


what i can tell u by thos point ov view is...

what i like is the demez the clerik could have ... is the aoe mez
n the stun ... the clerik can hanlde in rvr or pve... also resist buf r nice

been higly buffed is good rylly nice to have over 300+ str
yess but... ull will still get all the base buff tha r good
not saing keep enhan to 0 just not take it as ur main skilll

n rejuv too...


again just my opinion... u can do what u like mmm better U MUST
do what u like

but ... think that full enhan or rejuv r strongly dependent by others

smite clerki can deal huge ammount ov damage
killing faster help as healing or so...

but u can still kast n heal spell n a damage one...
anyhow in rvr been healed is rlly hard cuz the damage is fast n huge

all taht cuz ur tempelate is kinda extrame =) with only 3 or 6 in smite =)

take in mind u could have need to solo sometimes ...

well well think ive confused u all =))) i hope at least as my self bb

I'm here before Uncle Sick gets in so,

Fuck off to EXWALIBAR.

Other posts so far make sense really.
 
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Xtro

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Don't worry Windforce. Engish is my native language and I can't tell wtf silenzio is on about either.
 
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Gabrial

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Can I just recap:

1. Do we definitely not get a demezz then?

2. What is the healing proc mentioned on catacombs and classes of camelot and how does it work?
 
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Silenzio

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rlly ? :(

damn its look kinda easy by me...

not the wole sense ov the post but the single sentece meaning atleast yess

mmm try take it conversational?

well nm

isnt my tread =) just mind giving him good advice
 
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hangianix

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"smite clerki can deal huge ammount ov damage"

Aye, against grey con skeletons :)
 
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old.Jessica

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1) No, no demezz.

2)

From Patch Notes:

These spells are 10 minute group cast buffs, which for the duration give the chance to proc a healing effect when hit.

i.e. It's an armour proc that does a heal IF the person gets hit. (i.e. damage shield, but it's a self heal and there is only a 'chance' it will go off each time the person is hit..... er... just like armour reactive alchemy procs... or... dropped mob items that have heal procs...)


Misc)

I've played Jesi for far too long. Started out a smite cleric. and thought I'd always be a smite cleric until that bug weekend where we all got to play with lots of specs.

I tried 45 smite template, a 40 enhance template, a 40 rejuv template and eventually settled on 41 rej, 30 enhance, rest smite.

Speccing a Cleric is 100% dependant on your play style.

choose smite :

If you like to cast spells and hit stuff with your hammer. Everyone will hate you, everyone will yell at you, you won't kill much solo, you won't kill much in a group. You can solo PvE fairly well tho, so long as you don't look at orange con mobs.

choose enhance :

If you are regularly grouped with a rej cleric. Want to use 2 accounts and spend spare time on the account bufbotting your other characters. You base heals will be ok, but variance will end up killing your groupies sooner or later. You won't have nicer insta heals and certainly will miss the power of group and spread heals. And not having decent rezzes can be very, very annoying (to you and others).
Fairly high enhance is still very playable.

choose smite/enhance:

If you never, ever want to group with anyone except yourself.

choose rejuv:

When you want to actually be the person that keeps your group alive, be the one that lets a smaller group kill large monsters, be loved by all your realmmates, be invited to so many places to do stuff that you'll have to start declining people....
.... but. rejuv cleric is only as good as his/her group. You can't really look after yourself easily, tho we can still do well... 1v1.. 2v1 is an almost certain death. Just takes a while :)

'balanced' cleric specs (even numbers all through as opposed to weighting 2 lines) doesn't work overly well. Not not bad at anything, but you're never good at anything. If you need to heal - someone else can do it better, if you need to smite/hit you'll probably lose because you won't quite do enough damage.

I would suggest a rule like this for looking at any cleric templatte:

Spec one line high, but not all the way to 50. Then pick a 2nd line and put as much as you can into it. Then leftovers into the last.

Pick something that you do a LOT of the time you play the Cleric. Be good at it. As opposed to picking something you like to do. (i.e. rejuv as opposed to smite..... sure smite is fun, but ffs, roll a wiz/thurg/sorc if you wanna nuke something. cos smite, is, truly, shite.)

I love rejuv, and it really makes a difference. I spend 99% of my time in RvR healing and stunning. It's just nice watching other group members beat the shit out of mids and hibs :)

Clerics make a difference.

Jesi
 
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hangianix

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Your persuaded me now Jesi :) Will retire after RR6 :) No place in Albion for a smiter :p (j/k)
 
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kr0n

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Originally posted by Silenzio

isnt my tread =) just mind giving him good advice

D4+5 d4 p01n+t d00d, u 41n+ g1\/in g00d 4dv1c3.
 
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Silenzio

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Originally posted by hangianix
"smite clerki can deal huge ammount ov damage"

Aye, against grey con skeletons :)

since u talk bout skelly i suppose u refer to pve

low damage?

is strange since i deal 700/800 damage per spell to yellow mob
n 600/700 to orange =)

i generaly cut em of in 3 (yelow)/4 (orange) hits =)
at lvl 50

think isnt bad damage output

maybe we have dif spec =) 44 + 11 smite here
n suit me well
 
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Silenzio

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Originally posted by kr0n
D4+5 d4 p01n+t d00d, u 41n+ g1\/in g00d 4dv1c3.


hehehe lemme guess on excal u play a troll =)

i was saying to not pay attention at me since lot ov ppl were arguing bout what i meant or not

without answering him =)

'enjoy
 
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hangianix

Guest
Originally posted by Silenzio
since u talk bout skelly i suppose u refer to pve

low damage?

is strange since i deal 700/800 damage per spell to yellow mob
n 600/700 to orange =)

i generaly cut em of in 3 (yelow)/4 (orange) hits =)
at lvl 50

think isnt bad damage output

maybe we have dif spec =) 44 + 11 smite here
n suit me well

Well, in PvE I'm playing with 44+15 smite with MoM 2. I've never ever met with 700-800 dmg in yellow con, maybe you are playing in Korea with pre-1.52 patch then :D
 
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kr0n

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Originally posted by Silenzio
hehehe lemme guess on excal u play a troll =)

i was saying to not pay attention at me since lot ov ppl were arguing bout what i meant or not

without answering him =)

'enjoy

Why do you need to guess? I think my sig is big enough to catch enough attention so people would actually where and what I play. Guess you aint very observative then.

Well, in PvE I'm playing with 44+15 smite with MoM 2. I've never ever met with 700-800 dmg in yellow con, maybe you are playing in Korea with pre-1.52 patch then

That would make sense actually... Lets test...

HUK HUK BABA WHIRL ^^;;;;
 
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Silenzio

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mmm wrong mob or bad luck to u? =)

i pl all my alts n friend somtimes with that clerik ...

n the damageii deal is what i wrote

maybe rlly related to kind ov mob
ever tried undead?

bb
 
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hangianix

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Nope, I never tried with undeads. They are looking so ugly so I'm trying to avoid them. I rather like to kill the fairy like mobs, they are so cute...
 

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