Cholestorol levels

[Lamp]

had my test results back
all clear - apart from "high cholestorol: 5.8" (whatever that means) - the receptionist said it was way above recommended levels
made appt with doc to discuss it

 

[Jupitus]

Should be something less than about 3.5 or so, I think.

Mine is about 5.5.

Triglycerides (another form of cholestorol) should be under 2. Mine was 18.

Go me!

 

[fettoken]

Too much unhealthy bacon luvin..

 

[old.Tohtori]

Got my diabetic doc end of week, haven't been to one in a year or so. Full check-up coming, with lifestyle(according to modern world) shit, it's bound to be interesting.

I should have heart, lung, breathing, colesterol, blood rpessure etc troubles according to health nuts :lol:

 

[Vladamir]

It's the ratio between HDL and LDL (high and low density) thats important.

Giving out one number is pointless without the other one, unfortunately general practices are fucking clueless on this at present and will stick anyone and everyone they can on the 'miracle drug' that is statins.

 

[Lamp]

Doc: Come in, Toto
Toto: Give it to me straight, doc.
Doc: [looking at clipboard]Prepare yourself for a shock. This is really awful
Toto: umm.....what?
Doc: [turns clipboard round]...this drawing my son did of me....its really awful...looks nothing like me
Toto: For chrissakes, doc. enough of the Shtick already. Am I going to die?
Doc: Yes
Toto: shit
Doc: in about 60 years time
Toto: now look....[getting angry]
Doc: ok...you either quit drinking or marry Bugz

 

[old.Tohtori]

Too much family guy Lamp

Actually i had a doc like that, he thought it's funny to take a lousy 60 year olds stats and show them to me.

Well it was funny :lol:

 

[Zenith.UK]

had my test results back
all clear - apart from "high cholestorol: 5.8" (whatever that means) - the receptionist said it was way above recommended levels
made appt with doc to discuss it

Most medics want the population with cholesterol levels below 5.2 on the measure that you quoted.
Mine started at 5.6 when I was first tested at 21.
My last one was 7.4, the one before was 7.6 and the one before that was 7.2.
Yet my GP won't put me on simvastatin to reduce it because...

You're at a low risk of developing cardiovascular disease in the next 10 years

Scuze me, I'm not thinking of the next 10 years. I'm thinking of the 10 years after that. Taking all factors into account, I should be on medication to bring it down as a preventative measure. Cheap medicine now to reduce/delay big money problems later, being pro-active instead of reactive.

In fact I'll call up for another cholesterol test tomorrow... it's been a while since I last had one.

 

[Tasslehoff]

Most medics want the population with cholesterol levels below 5.2 on the measure that you quoted.
Mine started at 5.6 when I was first tested at 21.
My last one was 7.4, the one before was 7.6 and the one before that was 7.2.
Yet my GP won't put me on simvastatin to reduce it because...Scuze me, I'm not thinking of the next 10 years. I'm thinking of the 10 years after that. Taking all factors into account, I should be on medication to bring it down as a preventative measure. Cheap medicine now to reduce/delay big money problems later, being pro-active instead of reactive.

In fact I'll call up for another cholesterol test tomorrow... it's been a while since I last had one.

Isn't it fixable through diet changes?

 

[Lamp]

I assumed (rightly or wrongly) that to lower cholestrol you
- drink more water
- eat more fruit & fresh veg (& plenty of power foods like garlic, oily fish, seaweed & shit like that)
- exercise
- reduce the amount of fried food & sugary crap in your diet
nature takes care of the rest ??????????????????????????

Thats what I'm expecting my doctor to tell me. I'd really rather not have to go on pills for the rest of my life.

 

[Olgaline]

Funny story:
I'm exactly 1m80cm
before I quit smoking I wieghed in at about 64kg "yes, too thin, going on skinny"
I had too high colestorol in my blood, "close to medication high, also had too high blood presure,
also borderlining medication...maybe just under....

I quit smoking, I gain close to 30kg and now closing in fast on 90kg..." yes, leaning to the chubby side"
and suddenly, my bloodpresure is preaty much perfect, and my colestorol problem has vanished entirely.


oh and I consume far more alchohol thease days than i used to, I eat far more fat than i used to,
I'm lazyier than ever.. "exept when working" and yet, I'm healthier than I've been in more than 10 years.

 

[Vladamir]

How old are you Lamp?

My dad (52) was around the same reading as you i think. He was given 6 weeks on his own to reduce it as much as possible through healthier eating, exercise etc, then if it wasn't improving much he'd be put on statins.

IIRC it went down a bit, but IMO he could've done with doing more exercise, as thats really what gives your body the reason to alter it's production/ratio. The result was much greater after being on statins for a while, but TBH a lot of research is saying they're not as much a miracle drug as everyone seems to think.

Zenith - Your doc is right for not just slapping you on medication. Do some exercise, clean up your diet and alter your lifestyle to improve your health, rather than just going on some pills.

 

[Zenith.UK]

Zenith - Your doc is right for not just slapping you on medication. Do some exercise, clean up your diet and alter your lifestyle to improve your health, rather than just going on some pills.

It's not responded to changes in diet or exercise in the past.
The doctor grudgingly accepts that it's probably familial hypercholesterolaemia since my dad, my brother and my grandad all had elevated levels from a young age.

 

[Jupitus]

It's not responded to changes in diet or exercise in the past.
The doctor grudgingly accepts that it's probably familial hypercholesterolaemia since my dad, my brother and my grandad all had elevated levels from a young age.

Yup - it's not always just down to diet, it can have genetic roots too. My main problem is that due to sciatic nerve problems in my lower back I struggle to even alk any distance, let alone take on more exercise, but I'm working on it

 

[Moriath]

i is on statins they took me colesterol down lots from over 7 to under 4

 

[Lamp]

hmm....so attaching a long but substantial deep fried tandoori sausage covered in bacon and lubribated with thick butter to a string and flossing it from your mouth to your jacksie...is probably not a good idea if u have high cholestorol then....

 

[Jupitus]

i is on statins they took me colesterol down lots from over 7 to under 4

I is on them too, but mine is still high!

 

[Job]

This would all be very entertaining if cholesterol levels actually had any
correlation with heart disease, but they don't.

The whole thing is based on a whole lot of statistical nonsense and reducing your levels will have no bearing whatsoever on your chances of heart disease.

If your parents had it, you will get it...mostly.

Of course there are exceptions to every rule.

 

[Moriath]

This would all be very entertaining if cholesterol levels actually had any
correlation with heart disease, but they don't.

The whole thing is based on a whole lot of statistical nonsense and reducing your levels will have no bearing whatsoever on your chances of heart disease.

If your parents had it, you will get it...mostly.

Of course there are exceptions to every rule.

Sure and Hilter wasn't a Jew hater

 

[Jupitus]

Indeed - tell that to the stent in my artery....

 

[Olgaline]

Job,
although you correct that there is a tie to genetic vunerablility of having high colestoral,
someone with that does not, can just as well develop it due to his or her/lifestyle...

so yes, if your parrents and grand parrents had problems, you should indeed be more weary of the potential of developing higher levels, you should still not be ignorant to the risks if you arent geneticly proned.

what your saying might as well be that there is no conenction between diet and type 2 diabetes, or no connection betwene diet and fat, it's

that it's all simply geneticly pre-programmed.

 

[Job]

Don't believe me?

The look it up and try and find one study or trial that remotely backs up
the claims coming out of the medical profession/drug companies cosy little setup.

Fat people with huge cholesterol levels routinely outlive skinny people with low levels and visa-versa.

The actual results on the ground just don't backup the claims.

Within a few years they will admit it's a load of bollocks
trust me..

 

[Moriath]

trust me ... im a doctor ... oh your not

 

[Ezteq]

lol I swear the first thing I thought when I read your post lamp was, well first was phew glad you're alright but second was i bet it's all the bacom on FH that did it.


FH we are bad for your cholesterol!


I don't know if it works but on the adverts they say that benecol spread and drinks can help reduce it?

 

[Fafnir]

cholesterol on its own is really bad for you since if you just got it and had nothing to move it around it would just build up like a brick wall in you veins, it need lipoproteins to get around in your body since it do not disolve in the bloodstream, and you got two of thoose LDL that transports the cholesterol around your body high levels of this is bad for you since it pollutes your veins/arterys. Then you got the good cholesterol HDL, that transports the cholesterol out of your body back into your liver to either be broken down or dropped as waste.

 

[Lamp]

ok just come back from the docs

she took my height and weight (she hand to stand on a chair to take my height lololol)

She referred to some chart, asked my date of birth, & said I need to lose a stone and a half, cut down on red meat (is bacon red meat?), replace red meat with plenty of fish, cut out crisps & chocolate (my weakness) & replace those with fresh fruit & raw veg to snack on instead, and get more exercise. Need to have another cholestorol test in a years time

Nothing unexpected there then. Just sensible eating & take more exercise.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Yeah, basic bull from doctors.

Every solution they have is "cut red meat and choccies, eat berries and fish, move more!"

Lucky they have years of education for that.

 

[fettoken]

I think we need to know more about what causes a heart condition before we jump to any conclusions. Sure there are always those who go by the book, but as someone said before theres always exceptions to every rule.

 

[Ezteq]

Take note Lamp, cut down and eat wisely but don't cut it out ttotally or you will be able to think of nothing else and become miserable!

 

[Lamp]

very true

A life without Walnut Whips is no life at all