Cheats

[Crashtje]

ironic that my first meeting with tivook and jaz happened to be from behind at dakkons tower on my lubly 41bard :X

 

[Gahldir]

The number of times we have cought NP with a jump on them are so high it's very unlikely that anyone of them should use Radar. Tho they are great on spoting you as you charge them.

 

[old.anubis]

ever heard of inc lag?
if you have not that fast comp, you will get swap if some1 enters your clip bubble (maybe a bit further). sometimes you can even distinguish whether it's 1 fg or 2. my comp can feel alb zerg (~4-5 fgs) at atk as far as hill near amg, for identifying lesser groups you sure need to be closer.
in emain it is quite easy, since the whole zone is not that stable (comp swaps at grogans for example), inc lags can be easily identified.
buy crapy comp and use your personal radarwannabe

 

[Agreac]

Originally posted by Rushie
we all suspect NP cheat anyway, to get jumped from behind by them 9 times outta 10 cannot just be coincidence, some hard proof would be nice tho to back up peoples suspicions.

LOL, with that same logic VGN&LA use radar too. So please kindly stfu.

Agree with you about one thing though, it's not coincidence, it's skill&experience.

 

[chosen]

Originally posted by censi
BTW, I am sure the mods could request your IP address you used to post to this forum.

If you were really stupid that may even be your usual IP address that you play DAOC on.

Saying that you are only using Radar to stop others using radar, is contradictory, Ironic, and to be frank BS.

Sure cheating suxs. But you have been irresponsible by naming NP there, especially with the weak reasons you have stated.

Your angry and prolly getting killed a lot in RVR. All this post will do is kick up a swarm in a bee's nest.

I would wage money on 1 thing. Tell us in one months time all the players you have discovered cheating and who you have provided evidence to GOA and subsequently got banned.

I can predict the number will be 0. (or maybe 1 if you get banned)

they can't ban him for this, they dont know if he is serious, it may be someone fecking with another ones BW account etc,

 

[old.FIN]

i say this again, what i have said earlier many times.


cheating in online game to gain win is just must to some peeps.

it will turn soon that more and more peeps r cheating, because thats onlyway to gain win.

and if developers dont do shit, game will die. have seen many games doing and going so, 1st person shooters r the worst.


u cant do nothing if peeps help, because proving it takes more times than u think, and usually in rules to get banned and so on, company asks u 10000 questions, because they dont wanna loose money, they can give 1-2 day ban, thats all.


just accept the fact that there r peeps that cheat in online gaming, and when it starts to go so worse that only way is that u have to start cheat to gain even some success, change game. thats what i have done always.

 

[old.Lythande]

Yes, because GOA as opposed to pissed off anonymous forum-warriors require proof before accusing/banning someone for cheats.

 

[Belomar]

Interesting post, but I would have preferred that the poster in question had recorded the movies before posting. Without proof, his credibility is now very low, and any radar users on Excalibur will now be extra careful on using it now that he has announced that he is "passively" using one to detect others. So, make haste in producing some incriminating movies, please.

 

[Subbiz]

give some hard evidence, if you are doing it the way you say u do its no sweat to proove it. have you ever heard of stealthers? u cant see those on radar that much I do know.

we nearly always have 1-2 sbs from guild reporting in /gu about all hostile activity and often NP members got some random helpfull stealther in emain msg'ing info all the time.. dont ask me why ppl do it, I've never asked anyone to do it but still I get it all the time when im in emain, and it is most helpfull.. so imo take ur bs and go die irl if u cant proove it.-

 

[StormriderX]

NP don't use radar - they've jumped groups I've been in enough times but they have also been jumped by groups I've been in as well.

Emain isn't exactly a big spot and when you go there everyday then you're bound to know all the best spots to look for people to fight.

 

[it-is-easy]

Used 2 mins on google:

google.com/search?hl=da&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=daoc+radar&lr=


2nd link shows a forum where you get all the info you need

Why shouldn't RP-whores cheat to get even more rps??

And cut that crap about stealthers giving info all the time - they don't bloody walk to end of map to rest.... also they saying where enemy groups are heading dont give enough info so that you allways manage to come from behind.

I simply dont belive it and i get sick of the denials, not your fault really it has allways been known that humans cheat to get where they wanna be - i solely blame Mythic/GoA for not taking action.

 

[Arnor]

Originally posted by xplo
tumtutmutmtutumtum Inspector Gadget!!! tumtutmutmutumtumtum

Originally posted by Tivook
Heh you do know that your ip is logged here on the forum right?

And that they can look for the other forum account using the same ip?

I mean zargar is a goa GM and also a forum mod here on bw.. and you just admitted to cheating.

Tiv

pwned imo

 

[Albbasher]

Originally posted by StormriderX
NP don't use radar - they've jumped groups I've been in enough times but they have also been jumped by groups I've been in as well.

Emain isn't exactly a big spot and when you go there everyday then you're bound to know all the best spots to look for people to fight.

Well say'd StromriderX
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[Forau]

Contemplating if I should dignify this with a proper reply. Until then
+1

 

[Khalen]

I've already seen some screenies of people saying where mids or hibs are... I don't doubt there are some who use it and some who don't. And using Radar to find Radar users I don't mind, it's not my account that's on the line

 

[Darkdancer.]

Erm am I goin mad here, if people with radar can detect other radar users why cant goa install radar and catch them themselves?

 

[Bellona]

Take Excalibur development forums

http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=150739

compare IPs from the posters to players on the daoc server, tadaa u got 50% of the cheaters, since i understand it can be a pain to get to work but how to get the IPs from development forums is whole other issue

 

[Runolaz]

Originally posted by Subbiz
give some hard evidence, if you are doing it the way you say u do its no sweat to proove it. have you ever heard of stealthers? u cant see those on radar that much I do know.

we nearly always have 1-2 sbs from guild reporting in /gu about all hostile activity and often NP members got some random helpfull stealther in emain msg'ing info all the time.. dont ask me why ppl do it, I've never asked anyone to do it but still I get it all the time when im in emain, and it is most helpfull.. so imo take ur bs and go die irl if u cant proove it.-

...what Sub said.

I have done it many times and not only for NP, but for Emain I usually pm them on alb/hib grps.

 

[Driwen]

is it allowed to keep making new account on this board to just keep flaming a guild? I think radardetection + it is easy + the fg that got killed in the other thread about np+radar are probably the same . But thats up to the mods

 

[old.anubis]

Originally posted by Darkdancer.
Erm am I goin mad here, if people with radar can detect other radar users why cant goa install radar and catch them themselves?

goa doesnt need radar, why should they if all info is already there?

what mythic do on us servers, they send false packets imitating some enemies or mobs or whatever, while there is nothing really there. such a thing can be seen only on radar but in reality it doesnt exist. so if suspicious person responds to such packets, then he is using radar, after that he gets banned. simple as that.

if you suspect some1 in using radar, just send letter to goa, stating all the facts and such. they will (hopefully) be looking after the guy, and if they find something they'll ban him.

putting all this crap on boards just makes initial poster a fool.

 

[zabe]

Originally posted by radar detector
Well I'd like to first introduce myself, I am the radar detection unit.
I won't give too much away about myself, what guild I am in etc - as I don't want to be found out of course.
I would like to let you people know that I set up my radar for passive use - that is, to find out who is using a radar.
I don't use it to gain advantage over the enemy, and will never announce inc enemy - unless they are in clip/view range.
Don't really care if people want to flame me, I didn't do this to even the odds, or to make myself uber RR10 - I did it to find out once and for all who is cheating.
Although NP are a good guild and have some good players, I'm afraid that they are the most blatant users - that is, to a person who can see them out of clip range.
They use the advantage very well - and sometimes rather than run head on into an oncoming group - they will run around the back, hence the reason why most people think they got jumped.
Also seen them avoid us because they know we are running into an Alb zerg, then sandwich us from behind and mop up the remaining albs.
The tools for cheating are still out there - and are still working, its spoiling the game for lots of people - and I want GoA to understand this.
I'm not saying that all NP use radar, but there are obviously members - and the rest of the group knows who these people are. To deny using it is bare faced lying...
I'm looking into a way to record video from Excalbur (Radar Program) which is running on my other machine...so look out people. Excalibur doesn't give the name of the enemy, just states their race, and if they are wearing epic armour their class -
but I will post said videos as soon as I find a decent program and you will find that majority of 'suspicious' users are mids.
Post your comments if you wish...

silly alb uke:

 

[Belomar]

Re: Re: Cheats

Originally posted by zabe
silly alb uke:

It only takes a miniscule amount of intelligence to deduce that the poster is a Hib. I guess you didn't cut it, sorry.

 

[old.Nol]

I think the poster is Sub, he always does weird chit like this...in fact, in Mesopotamia he a reputation for it...

 

[Spyf]

I dont give a flying f..k if they use radar.

I just hope IF someone use it, that they feel REALLY proud of them selfes and say ''omfg im so uberl33t that it hurt''.

IMO they only fool themself and eventually ruin the game coz ppl will stop playing the game and they will be left behind with their uberl33t RA's with noone to use'em on.

To the radar users outhere uke:

No name mentioned coz I dont have proof, but I have my suspisions

P.S. excuse my bad typo

 

[hercules-df]

I think this is a good thing, gif movies 4 teh win.

And whats all this fuss about ips? Most people are on dynamic ips, assuming the guy who started the thread is not in a decent internet country. Not all of us can be in sweden

 

[Ironfoot]

Originally posted by eneq
Its well known fact NP uses radar....

This is conjecture and speculative bullshit

please show your proof (and not a they made a beeline right for us at band camp story)

 

[Belomar]

Originally posted by Ironfoot
please show your proof (and not a they made a beeline right for us at band camp story)

A movie of something like this is the only realistic proof that you can get of radar usage (short of sneaking into their house and videotaping them using it), but in order to make it believable you need a number of such movies.

 

[bjaadi-]

this reminds me of cs when someone did very good on a map like 32-0 stats or somth there where always someone who spammed Cheater haxxor aso... np is a pure rvr guild and they are good at what they do...

 

[Grandpeck]

Well in our alliance chat we normally have info from all over emain,odins etc telling us where u Albs and HIbs are moving.When ever i been in a group thats been attacked from behind its just a) bad luck or b) groups fault for not twisting camera,no pointing of fingers saying OMFG radar users ever.
Deal with death we all have to,in this flawed rvr BS

 

[killrake]

I have been partying with NP some times, not often though, and they are good players they dont need radar.

And even if I am not a NP all allways tell NP when and how many albs/hibs I see out there, I do it for midgard not for my own winning, though I not get a single rp for it.

This does not make NP free from accusations but maybe more stealthers does like me, and that can explain why they find albs/hibs well.

Hopefully GOA stops all cheats that comes to this game, if not I will surely stop play it.......