cheating at counterstrike

[scooby-doo]

Originally posted by Skyler
I wouldnt of normally posted it, but I'm still annoyed by the whole attitude of the event, so I felt that you regulars should know what happened and make your own judgements.

I am still an admin now and I have been unbanned, but I havent been cleared and the demo is still apparantly "conclusive" according to Zap

 

[throdgrain]

All these cheating accusations are very hard to prove, is the answer to this conversation. I find it very difficult to believe Skyler was cheating though, I must say.
The thing is, CS can be so random. Sorry to go on about Quake, but Im going to. In Quake 2 when a new bloke came on the servers you could see how they progressed, bit by bit they got better and better , until they reached a given point, and then generally levelled out. This could take anything from a month to a year. In CS however, I have noticed a few people on the servers just lately who I have consistantly beaten, yet one week later are scoring 25 plus every round. How does that work ? I hope they got lucky. I certainly was playing well below par last night but all the same, some of these scores really stood out to me.
Other people I have played with over a series of months, and I have seen them get better in a way I can understand, gradually.
Bearing in mind the amount of kids who play CS, its hardly suprising there are some cheats.
I think personally you have got to live with it a bit, becuase its never going to be proved. I know I dont cheat, and Im sure of my close clan mates and the people from here who I play regularly.The rest ? Lets just say I hope they are kosher.

 

[legendario]

Using Skylers favourite word:

Randomness

I have to agree with him on this.

During the last couple of weeks of CS I've noticed the amount of times burst fire works for the first 2 maybe 3 bursts (hopefully they will be dead by this time, but often are not) And the other times I'll fire 1 burst which seems to hit and the rest completely miss...hence my virtual CS grave and a session of banter in the afterlife.
I'm talkin about 2 people with similar connection and similiar rates so Lag isnt an issue.....the game is just so damn random.

I know what you mean throddy .... there are a few guys who I consider new and have beaten consistently that are now scoring very well (it seems like noob to l337 overnight).

But the other day I got accused of having no recoil...and I swear I was actually shocked at how easy I was finding it to frag the other team without missing or even teaking a serious hit (I scared even myself :/)....If I wasnt me, i would be suspicous...but I dont cheat and tbh I think if you do something you may as well try hard and fair to do it well ( I realise CS is probably a shallow analogy, but you get my drift)....but I aint a kid anymore so that probably accounts for my attitude.

The only way I can explain it is randomness....from map to map, day to day....I never have a solid 2 hours of play....I always fuck up alot on a couple of the maps.

Then again maybe I was just in "the zone"

 

[legendario]

Now I think about it....

Super "Rah!" Gray's aim has got alot better the last few times I've played him.....and its like hes developed some sort of 6th sense .....hmmmmmm suspicous

/directs ZaPpeh in Gray's direction

 

[S-Gray]

Hmm, if you say Super Rah! Gray fast it sounds like Superior Gray... that about adds up me

I also have noticed, that when using the Short Burst Fires on Rifles (Which 90% successful), but the extra 10% is just weird, you aim for the upper body, but instead it creates a wall round the person, or goes way over his head (When i check their HP, they still have like 70hp :/)

I do recall someone calling someone (may have been you) that they had No Recoil..

 

[legendario]

Originally posted by Super_Gray[SG]
Hmm, if you say Super Rah! Gray fast it sounds like Superior Gray... that about adds up me

This is using a 1 armed, blind sociopath as a benchmark

WHo plays CS on a cyrix P150+ with a cirrus logic video card and the default PC speaker

 

[throdgrain]

N00b to l33t somes it up quite well leg.
The other thing to consider of course is this.
What else you going to play? When the won server were down the other day I trawled through Q3, Q3 ut (laughable) , Unreal T.Frankly, they all looked and played shite compared to CS. (And DoD of course! )

 

[Skyler]

Hmm, I saw someone last night playing extremely well when previously he had been seriously bad, I saw him last week and he really was appalling, yet last night he was perfect almost, never looked the wrong way pretty much, always hitting, and just playing like a pro, which is weird considering hes a complete eejit

I shant reveal his identity as I am investigating into it more and I dont want to warn him

 

[legendario]

Skyler...

What alias(es) do you use on the BW CS servers?

As I cant say i've ever seen you play...although someone did say hello skyler but I couldnt work out which 1 you were..

 

[scooby-doo]

Originally posted by Skyler
Hmm, I saw someone last night playing extremely well when previously he had been seriously bad, I saw him last week and he really was appalling, yet last night he was perfect almost, never looked the wrong way pretty much, always hitting, and just playing like a pro, which is weird considering hes a complete eejit

I shant reveal his identity as I am investigating into it more and I dont want to warn him

lol cant be me then,cos im shite all the time ask super.

 

[Trem]

Originally posted by legendario
Skyler...

What alias(es) do you use on the BW CS servers?

As I cant say i've ever seen you play...although someone did say hello skyler but I couldnt work out which 1 you were..

His CS name is................





























.............Sky

 

[Trem]

Originally posted by throdgrain
N00b to l33t somes it up quite well leg.
The other thing to consider of course is this.
What else you going to play? When the won server were down the other day I trawled through Q3, Q3 ut (laughable) , Unreal T.Frankly, they all looked and played shite compared to CS. (And DoD of course! )

You are dead right Throddy, Tuesday night Samm goes out so its my CS night, I was absolutely gutted when I couldn't connect, so here's what I did

(1)Stormed off into the front room, but on the way I twatted(and I mean twatted)my upper arm on the door knob(the handle had fallen off so it was just a sharp square spike thingy), I manned up and didn't cry, but jesus it hurt........CS is to blame!

(2)Went onto IRC and kept asking b00b over and over again why I couldn't connect, he laughed.

(3)Watched some of Castaway which was on, saw the gooey crab leg bit then turned it off.

(4)Looked at arm and almost cried.

(5)Kept typing retry in a server untill it did connect(bout 9.30 I believe)

Went work the next day and was asked what had happened to my arm "dog" they said "cat" they said "your mrs" they said, "no" I said "CS".

 

[legendario]

LOL tremor

 

[S-Gray]

Originally posted by Skyler
Hmm, I saw someone last night playing extremely well when previously he had been seriously bad, I saw him last week and he really was appalling, yet last night he was perfect almost, never looked the wrong way pretty much, always hitting, and just playing like a pro, which is weird considering hes a complete eejit

I shant reveal his identity as I am investigating into it more and I dont want to warn him

I wanna know if ive ever played with/against you on any servers... coz we all know admins use different Alias' most of the time like Player or something else.

 

[legendario]

No Gray it's not you he's talkin about...we know your appaling ALL of the time

 

[S-Gray]

just left a fuckin good game of CS on Chateu on the FF Server, coz some twat come in (When i was on 21-6) and started TKing the whole team, after he killed me 3 more times (and goin to bwadmins - no admins it seemed) i just left.

First he called me a cheater, oh no, he called me "Well Dodgy" then TKed me, then the whole team then Reconnected.

Cant something be done about them retrying? like it stores their WonID in the Database, so if they do retry after TKing, they get banned anyway

 

[legendario]

ROFL .... you probably deserved it j00 cheat0r.

You were just upset coz he messed up yer precious score

 

[S-Gray]

no he only just joined the server, he come on, instantly accused me of been "dodgy" then i noticed he was gonna do somethin when he was pointing his Colt at me..


We need more admins! *cough* im available if you need anyone

 

[legendario]

Originally posted by Super_Gray[SG]

We need more admins! *cough* im available if you need anyone

I think BW has enough cases of power abuse already

 

[Skyler]

I change alias constantly. Each new alias starts getting a reputation, and then people remember me, so I change again.

I've played with most of you on BW many times



BW does need more good admins, and less of the admins that shouldnt really be admins in the first place...

 

[S-Gray]

Originally posted by Skyler
BW does need more good admins, and less of the admins that shouldnt really be admins in the first place...

Lol, im guessing of a fair few people your talking about..

Need good admins... hmmm interesting

 

[Me²]

Please God, make him stop.

 

[throdgrain]

Originally posted by Skyler
I change alias constantly. Each new alias starts getting a reputation, and then people remember me, so I change again.

I dont rate that much personally, if people know you're an admin then they are less likely to cheat anyway surely?
Its not The Man Fron Uncle you know

 

[Trem]

Heh Man From Uncle.

I remember Jobbie saying that people who use alias's annoy him, isn't that right Jobs or should I say Macleod or is it Beowulf today pffff calls them his warm up names the big tart

 

[legendario]

Rofl

Secret Agent Syndrome..

I have played with beowulf...didn't realise it was jobs

 

[S-Gray]

probably coz he was "Warming Up" and was playing poor

 

[Trem]

Erm nope, he was kicking ass as Beowulf, then when he changed his name to Jobbie he went a bit cack(still fucking good though), and anyway he doesn't need to change his name we all have our off days, and it isn't like we are gonna take the piss because we all know that next time he's going to hunt us down if we do

 

[scooby-doo]

i may change my name to soapytitwank what do you guys think?

 

[Will]

I think something is missing from your life.

 

[Trem]

Originally posted by ItchyTrigaFinga
I think something is missing from your life.