Chanter spec for pure RVR

Bladze

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Sarumann said:
just roll a wizard and out damage all other casterS`?? :D

Luris are sexier than avalonians.

Thanks for all the input guys, didnt realise I was going to touch off such a heated debate. If the variance isnt as bad as I imagined it would be, and from people are saying it isnt, then im going to stick with Mana as I do want to play in grp RvR and the rest of my time will probably duo with Calmin.

Staj repped you as always your input is detailed and concise, many thanks.
 

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Sarumann said:
just roll a wizard and out damage all other casterS`?? :D

nerf u and ur mom5 and wp5 :p

2 shotting ppl (not only caasters ) whit ur dd is funneh to watch :p
 

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well i am light spec again for the third time. but i agree with vulcan light is far more fun and when assisting a mana chanter the dps is just silly. my chanter spec is wp5 , mom5 , dex3 , lw 1 , rp1. i have hit mages for over 1400dmg at distance with light spec and another chanter in grp heat debuffing. i have also hit for 1100+ on light tanks and two shotting them ( tobruk ;) ). but its all about what you prefer. my advice try both out and you will know. its a mixed opinion on this. lots of good chanters have posted different views in this post. enjoy it mate ;D
 

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prodical said:
well i am light spec again for the third time. but i agree with vulcan light is far more fun and when assisting a mana chanter the dps is just silly. my chanter spec is wp5 , mom5 , dex3 , lw 1 , rp1. i have hit mages for over 1400dmg at distance with light spec and another chanter in grp heat debuffing. i have also hit for 1100+ on light tanks and two shotting them ( tobruk ;) ). but its all about what you prefer. my advice try both out and you will know. its a mixed opinion on this. lots of good chanters have posted different views in this post. enjoy it mate ;D

well 1400 dmg on range isnt possible :D

Say you have mom4, 8% dmg bonus and get a 49% crit :p
209 x 1,08 x 1,11 x 1,49 x 3 = 1119,95 or 1120 dmg at max
(delve) x (+ dmg%) x (MoM4) x (the perfect crit) x (3 times modified 'delve') = max dmg with perfect crit.
 

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Sarumann said:
Cabby delve nuke is same as enchanters only difference is that cabby is lajf tap ;)

All lifetap spells have a 10% bonus due to the lifetap effect. Thus making 179 taps actully beeing more of 197 delve nukes, althou their cap is based on 179.
 

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Stallion said:
well 1400 dmg on range isnt possible :D

Say you have mom4, 8% dmg bonus and get a 49% crit :p
209 x 1,08 x 1,11 x 1,49 x 3 = 1119,95 or 1120 dmg at max
(delve) x (+ dmg%) x (MoM4) x (the perfect crit) x (3 times modified 'delve') = max dmg with perfect crit.

logic aint used on FH, will you ever learn? :(
 

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Well tbh i prefer Light Spec over mana, current spec is 46 light, 27 mana, and seriously it rox! But i can see myself respeccing to 49 mana, 22 light once im rr10, its nice to boost your RR :) but i do miss the PBAOE at times hehe ;-).
 

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Lookdaddy said:
Well, listening to ppls arguements i have come to the conclusion that i will stick with the 49 mana 22 light that i have atm.

Hope that 21% power pool along with JS, CL weapon MCL2 (when i get enough RSP) and power pots that power wont be too much of an issue for me.


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Just pm me on FH or ingame and i can send jooo it :)
 

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Stallion said:
well 1400 dmg on range isnt possible :D

Say you have mom4, 8% dmg bonus and get a 49% crit :p
209 x 1,08 x 1,11 x 1,49 x 3 = 1119,95 or 1120 dmg at max
(delve) x (+ dmg%) x (MoM4) x (the perfect crit) x (3 times modified 'delve') = max dmg with perfect crit.
lols
 

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Stallion said:
well 1400 dmg on range isnt possible :D

Say you have mom4, 8% dmg bonus and get a 49% crit :p
209 x 1,08 x 1,11 x 1,49 x 3 = 1119,95 or 1120 dmg at max
(delve) x (+ dmg%) x (MoM4) x (the perfect crit) x (3 times modified 'delve') = max dmg with perfect crit.


And they say pbaoe is crap:(?

Such zoom on ss >< xD
 

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Stallion said:
well 1400 dmg on range isnt possible :D

Say you have mom4, 8% dmg bonus and get a 49% crit :p
209 x 1,08 x 1,11 x 1,49 x 3 = 1119,95 or 1120 dmg at max
(delve) x (+ dmg%) x (MoM4) x (the perfect crit) x (3 times modified 'delve') = max dmg with perfect crit.

Where will resists and/or debuffs get in this equation?
 

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Gear said:
Where will resists and/or debuffs get in this equation?
well, u debuff 50% ;) shouldnt be any resist then, should there? or am I totally wrong now :p guess baod+ perhaps aom will affect it, but really not sure about the rest
 

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Gear said:
Where will resists and/or debuffs get in this equation?

well this is only to shows what cap dmg + crit is, resists is caluclated last, what you have to look for first is level of target vs level of spell. For instance, you wont hit cap of the spell vs a level 50 target with 0% resists. You either need negative resists, relic bonus or a lower level target to hit cap.
 

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Arthuria said:
well, u debuff 50% ;) shouldnt be any resist then, should there? or am I totally wrong now :p guess baod+ perhaps aom will affect it, but really not sure about the rest

ive made a post how debuffs work somewhere on alb forum in a cleric template thread, cba looking it up.

but I can tell you its not just 50%.
 

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Hello

Well just one question tho. One of the reasons people choose a spec is cuz they are dmg addicts and just want to feel the sensation they get when they see a healthbar go down at enormous rates. Even if the rest of their utility ends up being crap. They just want the fastest dmg/time possible and care about nothing else. We said: (and I agree btw) if u want a light spec-nuker, take an eld or menta over a chanter, based on utility, because for the same spec-nuke you get a lot of extra's. But we never talked about the fact that the chanter is the only spec-nuker that can (gimply) debuff for himself. I never looked at the details tho. Is or isn't it true that a light chanter with a gimp heat debuff will outdmg his fellow light casters? ... just an inquiry, for the sole reason I don't know much about the damage calculations... if so I can see the point for a solo-er to play the light chanter over a light ment/eld because of the (ML9) pet and speedwarp+speed. In my oppinion however, the only reason for that would be dmg-addiction as I think you will outperform the light chanter with a mana one. If all the discussion above was already based on the light chanter debuffing for himself, please disregard all after 'hello'.. :)
 

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Bultrug said:
Hello

Well just one question tho. One of the reasons people choose a spec is cuz they are dmg addicts and just want to feel the sensation they get when they see a healthbar go down at enormous rates. Even if the rest of their utility ends up being crap. They just want the fastest dmg/time possible and care about nothing else. We said: (and I agree btw) if u want a light spec-nuker, take an eld or menta over a chanter, based on utility, because for the same spec-nuke you get a lot of extra's. But we never talked about the fact that the chanter is the only spec-nuker that can (gimply) debuff for himself. I never looked at the details tho. Is or isn't it true that a light chanter with a gimp heat debuff will outdmg his fellow light casters? ... just an inquiry, for the sole reason I don't know much about the damage calculations... if so I can see the point for a solo-er to play the light chanter over a light ment/eld because of the (ML9) pet and speedwarp+speed. In my oppinion however, the only reason for that would be dmg-addiction as I think you will outperform the light chanter with a mana one. If all the discussion above was already based on the light chanter debuffing for himself, please disregard all after 'hello'.. :)

A light chanter with level 27 debuff wil need mof4 to be able to rely on it. Thats 20 pts of realm ability points.

And even if this debuff lands, in fg rvr with 40+% resists, this little debuff does even less difference. Yes damage will potentialy be better then other spec nukers, but not significatly, to equal out the utility loss
 

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