Challenge To A Middie/hibbie Guild

[Cavex ElSaviour]

We would like to challenge u to a dual till death. Not the RP/BP farming dual but a prearrenged battle. lvls 20 - 50.
Our guild isn't a full lvl 50 guild so the challenge is more for a somewhat smaller and lower guild.

TIme: 2130
Date: wednesday the 17th of juli
Place: Hadrians wall. Between mmg (or hmg, depends on the one who takes the challenge) and PK
Rules: last one standing wins

So no save the cleric, and no lets be nice. we meet, we bow and we fight as a group.

Anyone interested?

 

[Yussef]

Yeah bring it I need to share some arse kicking with the other realms!

 

[old.Cher]

this sort of battle i like the sound of, since its realm vs realm unlike duelling with its pvp, seems the only problem you will have is that you have told the whole of the forums, and as such there will probably be one hugh scale battle going on, and so your guild vs guild will spill over into a massive battle, i might come and have a look<if my stealth holds out>

 

[old.Faye Arwen]

sounds damn fun

 

[Cavex ElSaviour]

Dont care if more come, i dont care if we will be out lvld, out numbered or even been totaly slaughtered. I just want to be sure that the last day before I go on a holiday will be a damn good day with lots of middie/hibbies to kill. Oh well, just all show up and lets have some old emain style massive RvR battle...

He middies and hibbies u chicken or are u guys coming?

 

[old.Cher]

well its totally unofficial till i get my gm's permission, but i'll try and raise my guild to come fight u heathen scum.

A proud member of enduring effervescients

 

[old.Charlinia]

TIme: 2130

is that CET?

 

[Cavex ElSaviour]

No, ass my most of my guild live in brittland where they have to be different from the rest of europe its GMT.

But im glad we have an oppponent

 

[Cavex ElSaviour]

Originally posted by old.Cher
well its totally unofficial till i get my gm's permission, but i'll try and raise my guild to come fight u heathen scum.

A proud member of enduring effervescients

Is it still on?

 

[old.Cher]

hopefully... problem only seems to stem from the midweek fixture, we'll bring all we can.

btw when u say a small guild, did u mean small guild? or small for albion? quite a big difference. but i will bring all i can to the battle, and try and ensure victory for my hibernian brethren.

 

[Halo | NS]

............

So what is the difference between a load of players duelling like this and 2 people duelling?

......just out of interest.

I don't mind either way, it's your game, I just want to understand why people accept mass battles like this where two sides fight whilst healers rez etc. but they disagree completely with 2 people fighting and getting rezzed.

Surely you'll get way more RP's fighting in this mass battle than you would duelling.....or would you?

Don't get me wrong, I mean no offence, I just want to know why people don't label this as 'mass RP-Farming' when there is no reason I can think of to fight there.

Is it because it is fun?

I don't know....maybe the duellers that get flamed here so often think what they do is fun?

 

[Brannor McThife]

Halo, difference here is that one side will be left standing while the ENTIRE opposing side will lie dead. This isn't RP farming in the least.

It's one "clan" challenging another "clan". No mercy, no quarter. Everyone dies, especially the rezzers.

-G

 

[=Cerebus=]

..........

Well in my experience, the words :

"All retreat to the MG and wait for them to rez so we can go again"

Get used more times than not in those big fun battles............

 

[Cavex ElSaviour]

WIth small i mean for albion samll. I expect between 20 and 30 ppl to show up from my guild. (altough 20 is a more reasonable number to expect then 30).


As for the difference between clan vs clan and dualing, i think Brannor McThife has told the difference.


About the retreat to MG part, we (or atleast I) have no intention to run to MG. It will be an easy us or them situation, only one group will have to walk back while tho other group can /release.


Then finaly a request for blood, thing, cordain and all the other middie stealthers, I'm ASKING u not to kill any of both sides till the battle is over. I know, its RvR, its in the frontier, we're in a war. I will not hold anything against if u do kill during battle but....... u know what i mean. (u can kill the winners/left overs)

Hope to see u there Cher.

 

[Turamber]

This is a pitched battle between opposing armies, at a pre-arranged time and place. Much the same thing was done in Medieval times. Not at all like the lame duelists who are out for personal gain and pleasure with no respect or recognition given to the vast majority who play the game the way it was intended.

Respect to both guilds involved in this. May the best team win (as long as they're from Albion )

 

[old.Cher]

as said the difference is that one side will totally be wiped out, we have no prearranged rezzers so that we can be rezzed and start over for more rp's, this will be war.

as for stealthers and other armies attacking, i'm afraid that will probably happen, but its a reality, and if we come accross them they will be disposed of, we will probably have 14 or so from our guild, so we will rope in a few others if possible, to even up the no.s

 

[kr0n]

RP FARMING!!!! BAAAANNN SUSPENDDD NEEEERFF!!!

Dont announce the time and place in advance, Ill come and leech RPs.

 

[old.mattshanes]

plain ignorant ppl saying its rp farming wtf we fighting still we not shaking hands r we?????

 

[Cavex ElSaviour]

Well, iwas thinking bout drinking a few beers with them first while the infils poison them. but then again, maybe GOA wont allow that

 

[=Cerebus=]

..........

I'd respond mattshanes but I have no idea what you just said.

You say this is real RvR but then ask people like cordain , Blood etc. to not kill people. That isn't real RvR I'm afraid.

I'm no historian but surely in such large battles, something was gained by the winning army. You're not taking any forts, you're not winning any land, you're not rescuing your men or liberating towns etc.....

What I'm trying to say is people flame duellers here. (Please note, duelling is not RP-Farming, duelling is pre-arranging a fight with a member of the opposing realm and fighting them to the death)

This is fun for those concerned yet it is against the CoC (Kinda) and most people here frown upon on it. For some reason though the same fight but on a much larger scale is fine by everybody as shown here today.

So from this I can take it that everybody who is going to attend this event is totally in favour of pre-arranged duelling?

Maybe it's just me but having a hundred people duelling doesn't make duelling okay. Why fight there when there is nothing to gain?

Anyway, I'm off to bed, have a good time tomorrow everybody.

 

[old.mattshanes]

what i am saying its just a fun battle like a deathmatch etc.

 

[Turamber]

Duelling involves people sitting around - fighting others; dying and being rezzed to go again. This will be a pitched battle between two comparable forces (in theory).

This doesn't usually happen in normal RvR. The Templars raid on Emain the other day was a good example -- they took 60 or so of lots of mixed levels -- Midgard's finest responded by even more troops, all (from where I was standing) of the highest level.

It will certainly be different and, though I won't be there as not in the Angels, I'll be hoping that the experiment works out.

 

[Cavex ElSaviour]

Re: ..........

Originally posted by =Cerebus=
I'd respond mattshanes but I have no idea what you just said.

You say this is real RvR but then ask people like cordain , Blood etc. to not kill people. That isn't real RvR I'm afraid.

.

I was asking the middie stealthers that because i want to test our guild ability by the fullest. I wont hold anything against no one if they want to come and leech/farm/steal/obtain some rp's. I chose HW because its 9 out of 10 times empty there. I know there is a big chance that every stealther from every realm will be there to kill us. But he, thats RvR

Originally posted by =Cerebus=
I'm no historian but surely in such large battles, something was gained by the winning army. You're not taking any forts, you're not winning any land, you're not rescuing your men or liberating towns etc.....

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Why fight there when there is nothing to gain?

So why are we running around in emain then? its not like were taking DC every night. Battle's aren't always about keeps, liberations etc. Often its just a matter of strength testing.

Originally posted by =Cerebus=
What I'm trying to say is people flame duellers here. (Please note, duelling is not RP-Farming, duelling is pre-arranging a fight with a member of the opposing realm and fighting them to the death)

This is fun for those concerned yet it is against the CoC (Kinda) and most people here frown upon on it. For some reason though the same fight but on a much larger scale is fine by everybody as shown here today.

So from this I can take it that everybody who is going to attend this event is totally in favour of pre-arranged duelling

ones again, WE WILL NOT SPARE ANY HEALERS OR ANY CLASS AT ALL TO REZ THE FALLEN. It will be one big clash and only one group will be standing when the dust cloudes are blown away. Hell im not even going to defend it anymore.

Kemor if u read this thread and u think this event equals the dualing pls drop a note here and a few uber guards at HW so we will know that GOa and Mithic and what ever organisation you're in doesnt approve it.

 

[Cavex ElSaviour]

check http://www.camelot-europe.com/en/aide/popfaq.php
section RvR rules and events:

RvR rules :
There is only one rule in RvR, and this rule is applicable for everything in the game : you must respect the code of conduct you agreed on when you created your account. Everything else is perfectly acceptable.
The three following examples may seem unfair, but are perfectly fitting the total and merciless war between the realms of Dark Age of Camelot.
- Siegfried, a young and brave level 20 paladin offered to duel Grrak, a berserker troll (using an out of game forum or something). The last comes to the meeting with all his guild, 30 characters level 50, and they totally annihilate the poor paladin.
- Ekoal, a young level 5 eldritch, is exploring the frontiers. Inattentive for a minute because of the doorbell ringing (the real one), he lets his character stand at a good range of any monster. A full group of Albion infiltrators and scouts (67 characters level 47 to 50) happens to find his hideout and cut him into pieces without even stopping. The player of Ekoal comes back to his computer only to see his character dead with some of the scouts and infiltrators dancing and laughing around his body.
- The fierce “Odin’s fist” Troll guild was challenged by the powerful Paladin council of Albion for a huge fight in Hadrian wall. The Midgardians arrive on the empty battlefield only to learn that the Albions attacked and captured a relic keep of Midgard.

Of course those example are perfectly “legal” in DaoC even if they are not what you should see too often. You are absolutely free to show mercy, honour and bravery in RvR but please note that this is not at all an obligation and that others may not follow the same rules than you do. You will have to learn about your enemies, know their weaknesses and strengthes, remember those who are loyal and those who betrayed you.

The frontiers areas are very dangerous , haunted by the most intelligent adversaries, other human players.

You have absolutely no obligation to enter the frontiers, but if you decide to cross the border keeps, bringing a friend or two or even two hundred might be a good idea.
Don’t forget that Dark Age of Camelot is a game and your character will not lose anything but pride in the process









especially the :
- The fierce “Odin’s fist” Troll guild was challenged by the powerful Paladin council of Albion for a huge fight in Hadrian wall. The Midgardians arrive on the empty battlefield only to learn that the Albions attacked and captured a relic keep of Midgard.

part So its legal to have a guild vs guild chalenge

 

[old.Cher]

today is the day. we are inspecting the troops.

as for the duelling point, 1 on 1 duels with no healers i accept. but not the pointless sitting while your friend gets killed, then rezzed to go again.

I couldn't just stand by while watching a realm mate take a beating, i'd have to help. Probably just a cher thing, but i beleive i should try and hep all hibbies and kill everyone else.
<my intention for tonight>

 

[Cavex ElSaviour]

First of all i would like to curse quicknet for cutting down my internet connection (and i think my whole neighbourhood agrees with me) and second of all i hope ill hope to find some action in HW. if not. pls tell me how it was.

 

[Cavex ElSaviour]

HMMMMMM..........\


U guys took the example by the lettre. Dont blame u though. Relic better then guild war.

Good goin hibs, hope that u will have fun with it

 

[old.Cher]

sorry bout that. we were actually going to turn up. but got breifed yesterday about the keep raid. so we couldn't tell you about it.

i'd like to make a formal apoligy on behalf of me and my guild.
sorry if we let you down. but all i can say is that u ot got a relic too. so its a benefit for everyone.

sorry again

 

[old.Mug]

Thxs for the diversion guys

 

[Cavex ElSaviour]

Originally posted by old.Cher
sorry bout that. we were actually going to turn up. but got breifed yesterday about the keep raid. so we couldn't tell you about it.

i'd like to make a formal apoligy on behalf of me and my guild.
sorry if we let you down. but all i can say is that u ot got a relic too. so its a benefit for everyone.

sorry again

Like I said, no hard feelings. i would have done the same in your case.

We will try again soon.