Celtic Spear or Large Weopons

[vladamyr]

ok i know this has been debated over and over but i really wana know whats better for my firby hero. Going Celtic spear or large weopons Any help appreciated also can anyone tell me something about the 50 CS/lW 50 Parry spec?

all help/feedback appreciated.

 

[wuntvor]

My honest opinion for a low lvl Hero is NEITHER, go s/s..........why?

Well Spear / LW tanks are terrible at holding mob aggro at least at sub- lvl 40 in my experience, mainly due to the slow spead of the weapons.

Spear rocks for a hero in RvR plus, unlike LW you don't have to go all the way to CS spec =50 to get the best styles.

My hero spec'd CS only after lvl 40 once I had enough points in blade to hold aggro well and enough in shield/parry to defend my self well enough to not be a mana sink for healers. Plus the CS spec meant once you break mezz with slam (42 shields) you can drop people damn fast.

This means that yes , you are a utility tank, but on the loooooooooong slog to 50 s/s spec means your grp's last longer and you get more xp.

As for parry ........DO NOT GO 50 PARRY, its bugged in large scale RvR, 1on1 it works superbly, but you fight 1on1 very rarely.

As a Hero I'd reckomend 42 shield (for slam) at least and specin blade a fair bit to hold aggro, then rest primeraly in spear and anything left over into parry (for PvE protection)

These are purely my opinions based on personal experience, 1 thing I can say with certaintly though is that a full specced CS/LW tank at sub lvl40 is terrible at holding aggro compaired to a 1handed weapon/shield user

 

[Bedroc the Hero]

I agree with Wuntvor. Hero is better of in groups with shield-1hander.

If you want you can go hybrid. i.e 42 shield, 44 CS, 45 parry, 6 blade

( i know the parry is high. but it does help a lil in RvR and will help a lot when they fix it in next patch )

If you go for LW id lower parry and go to 50 in LW skill.

LW and Spear both do a lot of damage, both are slow.

LW has one big advantage and thats the lvl 50 style Annihilation wich stuns the opponent.

CS has some bleeding styles which work well on epic mobs.

LW look cooler,
there seems to be more CS epic drops around.

In my book it about evens out. I went for CS because I did not want to go to 50 in any one spec. Thus the CS template gives you a more versatile tank. ( i.e more defensive which I like a lot )

also. even if you go for 50LW, 50 Parry, id advice you to do 1h+shield+parry till lvl 40 where you drop your shield and put those p oints in your LW. That would be ok if you keep your 1h low. you need taunt at least.

 

[Laralyn]

truth is that even if there are more cs drops out there than LWs, Legion drops only LWs of 100% qua while the spear drop is 94%..
SO there is no real good spear drop for a 50 hero rr5+..
even tho the Legion 94% spear is better than a 99% crafted one, it cannot compare with a LW 100% qua

also if you go LW you get to choose your dmg type: slash or crush.. a verry nice thing considering the various resists of the armourtypes..
as CS you only use thrust

so overall untill SpellCrafting comes out LW seems better

now i heard talk that CS has a bonus to dmg, being hibs special weapon.. dunno if that's true (what i heard is CS has 150% of the base dmg, while LW has 125%)
if that proves true, with SC coming and you not being lvl 50 yet you can choose the spear

also take advantage of the respeccs you get at fixed lvls.. you can put everything in shield/sword till the last respecc available (think is lvl 40) and then respecc to blades 6 (for taunt), 40shield (which you should take to 42 for slam), 40spear(if you plan on taking it to 50, otherwise you can adjust it so you get parry up first to the final value of your choosing), and then parry
this is the best specc imo

 

[vladamyr]

thnx for the help guys,

the only reason i wasnt thinking of going s/s to 40 is because 1. it seems boring and 2. i have no idea how to respec as ive lost all my DAoC maps/guides etc which had the info in, If you could post me a link to how to do a respec it would be greatly appreciated
-vlad

 

[VodkaFairy]

If you char has been created before the last patch, you have a full respec available unless your character is 3 levels higher than the level in which the servers were patched (could be two levels also). To use this respec type:

/respec all

near a trainer. At level 20 and level 40 you are also granted a partial respec, meaning, one specline. So if you are level 40 and want to respec Blades, type:

/respec blades

Oh, and on a side note: You can always go slash instead of LW or CS till level 40. Just use the partial respec and put the points from slash into LW or CS:

40 slash / 40 shield at level 40. Use the partial respec on slash and put those points into CS or LW. Keep 6 in blades for taunt and get some parry for defence.

Final spec: 50 LW/CS, 42 shield, 6 slash, 35ish parry(?). [edit]Err, like laralyn said [/edit]

 

[Affri]

Originally posted by VodkaFairy
If you char has been created before the last patch, you have a full respec available unless your character is 3 levels higher than the level in which the servers were patched (could be two levels also). To use this respec type:

/respec all

near a trainer. At level 20 and level 40 you are also granted a partial respec, meaning, one specline. So if you are level 40 and want to respec Blades, type:

/respec blades

Oh, and on a side note: You can always go slash instead of LW or CS till level 40. Just use the partial respec and put the points from slash into LW or CS:

40 slash / 40 shield at level 40. Use the partial respec on slash and put those points into CS or LW. Keep 6 in blades for taunt and get some parry for defence.

Final spec: 50 LW/CS, 42 shield, 6 slash, 35ish parry(?). [edit]Err, like laralyn said [/edit]

Final spec would be 50 LW/CS, 42 shield, 6 blades, 39 parry It's a very well rounded spec and the 42 shield is NOT wasted since you have slam for RvR.

 

[Sleet]

Bang on to me affri, Started with maxing CS to 50 and maxing parry to 50, i could solo nps and group nps.

Slam is good for rvr but not much before hand imo.....no 2 will ever agree but i love my current spec (as u listed)
for xping why waste 9 secs stunning a mob at lvl 40 when you could kill him in that time with weap/parry max? spear move of parry is short stun.

as a firb taking the hits easy...
my xp /played time was very short with same idea of damage for xp and re consider as time tells