CC Guide.. To clear things up..

O

old.Takahome

Guest
Nerf hib, they got far too many CC form and vastly out numbers alb and mid together :(
 
O

old.Xanthian

Guest
lol

I made it for reference, Not for flame.
And Tama was being sarcastic (being a Hib himself)
 
D

Danya

Guest
"Minstrel Single Target 1500 3 Sec 29 Sec Mezz"
should read 29+flute secs - flute bonus is dependent on level of flute, a yellow con flute doubles mez duration.
 
L

-Lonewolf-

Guest
Originally posted by old.Xanthian
lol

I made it for reference, Not for flame.
And Tama was being sarcastic (being a Hib himself)
Click to expand...

I certainly have completely faith in this thread not turning into a flame war

And by the way thats a really good chart nice one
 
O

old.Xanthian

Guest
shh ;)

I knew that but cba to put it *cough*

It said +flute and I didnt have a clue so I left it out :p
 
O

old.Takahome

Guest
Yeah they r given new ae ranged mez :)

I tnk lonewolf knew already da sarcasm part :p
 
J

jetsetminer

Guest
ffs

Ouch!

How the hell are albs supposed to compete in RvR with that kind of Crowd Control (or lack of it)?

I knew the cleric had been seriously nerfed, and that theurgists had their mez nerfed but this is just insane!

How are we supposed to compete when all of the hib mez/stun are full range? and some are instas? And middies - full range insta area effect stun??? and insta mez? that is completely unfair.

How many full range insta mez/stun/roots do albion have? None. Does this explain to anyone why the albs get stomped on in a 1fg vs 1fg fight?

I can't believe that mythic / people on these boards can honestly say that crowd control is fair between realms.
 
A

Aussie-

Guest
really with your stupid stats nobody cares about

Hib = full of casters with stun , full of bards with mez (soon insta)
the almighty whinerealm about """"""albzergnumbers""""" is now gonna look to some stats that a couple of alb classes could have.

about your site:
hib: mez/stun
alb: mez/root
mid: lamers :p
 
F

Feldegast

Guest
Would the lvl 2x go bugger of from this discussion til he get some own experience... (might aswell heat the flames a bit)
 
O

old.Xanthian

Guest
Originally posted by Aussie-
really with your stupid stats nobody cares about
Click to expand...

Stats you cant understand you mean ?
Simpleton.
 
J

jetsetminer

Guest
flamebait I know.. but I'll bite because I'm bored...

So because I am only lvl 2x I obviously haven't fought in (e)main RvR, but I have in battlegrounds and I have friends who introduced me to the game that have with lvl 45+ characters.

From my experience I would say that these FACTS back up my opinion that the game is heavily biased on a crowd control side towards realms other than albion. Anybody can look at the figures and see that albion have rubbish crowd control compared with the other realms, it doesn't take a level 50 with your 1337 skilz to be able to do that.

I'm not making any comment on main RvR balance etc. because as you so elegantly pointed out I have no first hand experience of it. But from my experience of life in general you can tell the people who have lost an argument / discussion as they are the first to start with the insults and name calling.

:p
 
O

old.Nol

Guest
...

Firstly - I have no idea why bards get an insta aoe mezz in the next patch, it is bloody rediculous. Insta AOE mezz/stun/root should be removed from this game.

Secondly - If you using a buffbot to give your class an unfair advantage, fuck off and go whine somewhere else, you have no right to bitch about "single" classes getting some loving.
 
O

old.LandShark

Guest
CC Guide.. To clear things up..

Oh? What precisely is this clearing up? We know the score, it's what half the whinging in this forum is about :>
 
K

Killgorde

Guest
Originally posted by -Lonewolf-
I certainly have completely faith in this thread not turning into a flame war
Click to expand...

I respectfully suggest you change your religeous pursuasion LW - unless you were writing tongue-in- cheek (which I assume you were ;))
 
K

K0nah

Guest
So 3 of the most popular chars in hib get a 9 second, baseline stun without a timer and 1 class in alb gets a 6second stun, 1 a 9second stun, both on timers (in near future). And your point is what exactly?

http://www.camelot-seer.com/races/rp50.php?x=8

http://www.camelot-seer.com/classes/rp50.php?x=8

http://www.camelot-seer.com/realms/rp50.php?x=8

Those color codes are for all servers world-wide. Stop talking shit. Please. The whole world knows Hib is overpowered, its about time Mythic did something about it. Can't blame u for trying to cover it up tho, hey who doesn't want to be "uber" ? :rolleyes:
 
O

old.m0000

Guest
anyone who argues that hib and mid do not have (1.52 on) vastly superior CC to alb is a fucking moron.

look at the numbers and check again.

not to mention that our primary cc is CLOTH + LOW HPS while urs is medium - can heal himself and wears scale ( and healers too, insta ae mez insta ae stun chain, heals self) oh and the fact theres like a billion bards and healers when theres like 5 sorcs
 
O

old.Nol

Guest
CC in 1.52 completely screwed, no one denies that and I hope they fix it.

can heal himself and wears scale
Click to expand...

Bards do not wear scale, we wear reinforced leather and we have no insta-heals. We cast our heals(interuptable), the fastest is a very small heal(standard rejuv spec of 16 heals for 38hp) that takes 2.25 seconds.

You are under the impression that a bard is a minstrel with decent CC and heal/rezz, you need to roll a bard and see how vast the difference is, the only thing that a bard and a minstrel have in common is that they can run fast.
 
E

Ensceptifica

Guest
Everyone's free to play in each realm, so stop flaming eachother based on a realm you play in.

About insta aoe mez/root/stun: it's one of the few things in the game that I think shouldn't be.

Hibernia got group purge to make up for the lack of insta aoe mez/stun/root. Whatever reason Mythic has to also give Hibernia insta aoe mez too eludes me. One or the other, ok... both seems tipping the scales over too far.

But you can flame eachother about it, complain about it to eachother, but that's not gonna make 1 bit of difference. In the end the conclusion still is:

Play the game as it is. Don't play it if you don't like it.
 
O

old.LandShark

Guest
I'm with Nol on the bard front there....
Combat end of the spectrum
-----
skald
minstrel
bard
-----
Support end of the spectrum

Unfortunately, support classes win battles.
 
F

Feldegast

Guest
Still I cant see how this argument started to arise around patch 1.49(or 1.50)

Hib CC hasnt changed even the slightest and afaik neither Alb or Mid has either. If U started to whine after 1.51 I'll support ya all the way.

Alb ruled excali once be4, and why has that change. Go figure..

Jetset: Glad you took the bait, good comeback. Still think that BG RvR and emain(full grown) RvR is a world of diffrence. =)
 
T

Tigerius

Guest
A few errors in your list... Cleric PB Range isn't 300, the range is 0 and the radius 300 self centered meaning 150 in each direction. The duration is 29secs not 30secs at max spec.

Further on you listed Wizard spells that get introduced in later patches without listing the 4 hibernian CC spells introduced later.
 
O

old.Nol

Guest
He stated in the thread opener that he took all the data from camelot herald and that he assumes it is 1.52.

I will clarify that it is definitely 1.52 as new bard/druid instas and are mentioned.

What missing hib CC spells are you refering too Tigerius?

One thing that this thread does not mention is how the the mezz engine has changed, the fixed purge bug, how purge works, and the Mezz healing spells. If people are interested I can explain it.
 
L

Lessurl

Guest
Originally posted by old.Xanthian
and the 4 hibernian CC spells are?
Click to expand...


One of them must be that one that makes them adopt a lying position on the ground. Lasts ten minutes whereby they appear miraculously back in their own realm unless they get a cure in the form of a "ressurect" spell.
Another one makes their screen go blank to them but their character remains ingame standing still. Hitting does not break this spell. After effects seem to be random, sometimes u recover to find yourself where you were caught. Other times tho, as in number one, you find yourself miraculously ported home.
3 is an area effect version of number one, whereby a lot of people assume this lying on the ground at about the same time.
4 is similar to one, except everything around you stops moving for a period and u find yourself unable to do anything. Aftereffects once again vary. Sometimes everyone starts moving again but you have become afflicted with number 1, sometimes u are mezzed, sometimes u have been hurt a bit, sometimes u are far from where u were when u first became afflicted.

Of course, all of the above spells come as baseline for bards cos they are uber.
 
B

bf_kate

Guest
Re: ...

Originally posted by old.Nol
Secondly - If you using a buffbot to give your class an unfair advantage, fuck off and go whine somewhere else, you have no right to bitch about "single" classes getting some loving.
Click to expand...

Don't worry, it's still grey con ;)
 
B

bf_kate

Guest
Originally posted by K0nah
So 3 of the most popular chars in hib get a 9 second, baseline stun without a timer and 1 class in alb gets a 6second stun, 1 a 9second stun, both on timers (in near future). And your point is what exactly?
Click to expand...

Stun isn't going on a timer???
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 2 (members: 0, guests: 2)
Top Bottom