Catacombs bad news for Albion?

[Maleg]

Albion's utility IS too dilute. Look at Sorcs. No utility at all. They should make the Zealot a Thane !

Yeah mincers need love too! Alb has it's issues but there are plenty of decent Alb players out there demonstrating the Realms true potential

 

[Shike]

NO ITS MY RESPONCE TO ANYONE THAT DOESN'T RESPECT OTHER PEOPLES OPINIONS.

bit hard to respect clueless people tbh Blabbor, which you have proven to be on numerous occasions sadly.

perfect example, Shike clearly cannot add anything to the discution.

Eroa, its clear you agree with the first post yet don't want to so you have resorted to picking on spelling.

umm... you wrote down one line which I found I wanted to reply to so I did. Would say the one who didnt add to the discussion would be you in the first place then.

Im 100% serious when I call you clueless Balbor, mostly what you post is pure BS and nothing really worthwhile reading since it mostly even isnt accurate. If you wander around on pink fluffy clouds and believe you are some fountain of knowledge with a good sense of balance for DAoC, well.. I cant help you, but please for the love of God, dont expect respect for anything you post because you wont get it.

 

[CstasY]

Best thread Balbor has ever done was the "Zerging should give more RP's" thread imo.

 

[Velimos McDuff]

^^ Worst part about this post is that you spell Midgard as Midguard!

i am the best example of why English scholls work so well.


Anyway Midguard is the posh way of saying it not the comeners way <puts on his smokers jacket and gets out the pipe>

 

[Balbor]

There are 2 main problems that can arrise from Catacombs

1) the new classes fail to draw enough people from Albion who are will to commit themselves to a new realm. The Level 30 for underpopulated realms did nothing really and was more of a reward for people already playing those realms. /Level 30 also had a knock on effect in the BG. For the Euro English server many people already have characters on both servers, the idea of getting people to role a new character on a different server was refering to the US servers may not work very well on the English Euro servers, without people deleating all characters from one server or moving to a French/German server where they may not be able to communicate with other players. In order to get people to try out new character they genrally have to offer something not seen before., this leads me onto the second point

2) if the 2 new special classes in Mid/Hib offer new unseen abilities or some Albion unique (such as Power Tap, Spec AF Buff etc) without opening up some of the ablities Albion. Pre NF Mid and Hib groups are able to compete against the more populated realm of Albion, this could in part be due to abilities combinations on some classes (Stun, PBAE and Debuff Nuking for example) and unique RvR importaint Abilities (GP, AOE Stun, instent AOE stun, ranged instent AOE CC, large number of instent spells useable for interupts). NF changed this, mainly becasue people did not have to 'walk' to battle through bottlenecks, instead teleporting right to the action (one of Albs main problem was getting there number around.

Mythic cannot have both there plans for Catacombs to work, ie Population levels out and the 2 new special classes are good/effective enough to pull people away as albion will lose its numbers advantage while Mids and hibs will gain even more RvR importaint abilities.

 

[Jimmeh]

Mythic cannot have both there plans for Catacombs to work, ie Population levels out and the 2 new special classes are good/effective enough to pull people away as albion will lose its numbers advantage while Mids and hibs will gain even more RvR importaint abilities.

how do you know anybody will get any decent rvr abilities when all people know is 2 lines of text that can be intepreted in soo many different ways. also the zealot sounds rather good to me but we will have to wait and see. the hib classes havent even been described yet.

 

[haarewin]

heaven forbid albion lose its realm unique abilities!
ignoring that hib lost its realm unique ability (end regen) to the enemy realms in superior forms, i think albion shouldnt be the only realm with power tap / xfer. i think the warlock should have access to those spells but i doubt it will happen.

 

[Balbor]

how do you know anybody will get any decent rvr abilities when all people know is 2 lines of text that can be intepreted in soo many different ways. also the zealot sounds rather good to me but we will have to wait and see. the hib classes havent even been described yet.

Mythics aim is to balance the population out by getting people to role these new classes, both Warlock and Valkary have already got unique abilities. If these classes prove to be as useful or less usefal than those already avalible then people will be unlikely to role them.

Based on the info for Valkyries, Banshees may well also have the Cone Area Effect (CAE) spells fr there screems (guessing a CAE stun spell could be in there).

As for Zealot, High Damage Focus spells may me be damaging spells which have to have focus held on them, a bi like DOT, forcing target to eather move out of range or start attacking the Zealot.

 

[Daedalus]

You know.. I don't think that Catacombs would work for the game as it is now.
It may work for NF. Right now, when looking at the numbers fighting simultaniously, RvR is mainly 1fg vs 1fg and small zergs. When looking at the fight, it's usually bottleneck camping (the milegates) or running-encounters (running 'into' albs, mids or hibs). In those fights it does come down to utility, moreso for 1vs1fgs than in small zergs.

However, I can't say anything about NF. Will there be massive fights? How massive? How important will strategy be (think about the paper/stone/scissor game), rather than button mashing? Will it be a good combination?

We all know that Albion is actually designed to have its numbers as it's greatest strength. Mythic acknowledges this. Maybe Mythic will fuck up the game beyond repair with this add-on, maybe they'll balance things out for the new battle style in NF, or maybe we won't really notice a thing. (Okay, granted, they said that for ToA)

 

[Succi]

shh plz balbore

 

[Straef]

they said that for ToA)

Ml's won't affect rvr!

 

[Balbor]

shh plz balbore

um, i can't really work out what you are doing in the thread seeing as you can't come up with any ideas or theoies of your own? Please tell us how you think Catacombs will effect the Euro servers?

 

[Maleg]

Trying to think of one 'unique' ability left for Hib and I'm at a bit of a loss. Midgard has AE stun and intercepting pets, but lacks any pet spamming class.

 

[Eroa]

perfect example, Shike clearly cannot add anything to the discution.

Eroa, its clear you agree with the first post yet don't want to so you have resorted to picking on spelling.

rofl?? I'ts clear I agree with the first post?

Well I dont agree with it, I dont think alb are getting the shaft in Catacombs, still any moron that is playing this damn game should by now have learnt that its not spelt Midguard, but Midgard. If you want to turn the name english say something like Middle earth or a more direct translation Midyard

 

[Tuppe]

hmm nobody switch realm because new classes inc in cat, this is clear.
offcourse many try classes and how those work but xp to 50, get toa/sc set + new must have junk from catabomb add on, we speak near half year progress.
dunno why comment add on what is still under work and getting live end this year.

SI indeed give albs crap classes, reaver and necro, reaver aka NF fotm class, necro ala pl god "we dont have time rvr because need pl 7 peep to lvl 50"

 

[Bubble]

SI indeed give albs crap classes, reaver and necro, reaver aka NF fotm class, necro ala pl god "we dont have time rvr because need pl 7 peep to lvl 50"

Riight
Lets compaire Savage and Reaver, maybe also Necro and bonedancer


Admittedly Hib got it worse (Why Run with a VW/Animist when you have Heros/Bms/Chanters/eldys)

 

[Ormorof]

Riight
Lets compaire Savage and Reaver, maybe also Necro and bonedancer


Admittedly Hib got it worse (Why Run with a VW/Animist when you have Heros/Bms/Chanters/eldys)

aaaalways comes back to savages and BD's, yes mid got best classes with SI, BUT that doesnt mean the other SI classes are crap/useless

infact i was out playing my thane the other day when a reaver handed my ass to me on a plate (purge was down, and damn that behind style hurt me )

admitedly reavers suffer from lack of det atm but there are plenty of classes that do, so quit whining

 

[Joe_Soap]

gotta remember, when NF comes into play, all our opinions/conceptions of classes etc go out the window. NF is a new game. free for all (which im happy about)

long live the up to now ungroupable classes. feck even oro will get a grp with his gimp cabby

 

[Oro]

feck even oro will get a grp with his gimp cabby

<ponders>

Naaaaaaaaaaah

 

[Maxgirth]

gotta remember, when NF comes into play, all our opinions/conceptions of classes etc go out the window. NF is a new game. free for all (which im happy about)

long live the up to now ungroupable classes. feck even oro will get a grp with his gimp cabby

He`ll never get groups with his uber navigation skills , it crossed my mind the other day elim is mile spelt backwards, and that`s exactly what we done, went backwards a mile .

 

[Daedalus]

Seems like Catacombs may have crap classes for both Alb and Mid. I wonder what Hibernia will get. The warlock class seems interesting though.

 

[Bubble]

aaaalways comes back to savages and BD's, yes mid got best classes with SI, BUT that doesnt mean the other SI classes are crap/useless

infact i was out playing my thane the other day when a reaver handed my ass to me on a plate (purge was down, and damn that behind style hurt me )

admitedly reavers suffer from lack of det atm but there are plenty of classes that do, so quit whining

i'm not whining
Just trying to make my point no Class in SI (Albion) is used in Opted RvR. While mids use both Bonedancers and Savages. A class that would be useful in a FG would be nice (Reavers are semi okay, necros are just a waste of space)

 

[Ezteq]

"The Order of the Valkyries was started by two stunningly beautiful orphaned twin sisters named Sigrun and Brynhild,"



Ok call me a geek but i thought Freya (sp?) was the queen/leader of the valkyries?

 

[Shike]

"The Order of the Valkyries was started by two stunningly beautiful orphaned twin sisters named Sigrun and Brynhild,"



Ok call me a geek but i thought Freya (sp?) was the queen/leader of the valkyries?

geek!!!!!111

sorry just had to, never called someone a geek over a forum before

 

[DaggerElivager]

"The Order of the Valkyries was started by two stunningly beautiful orphaned twin sisters named Sigrun and Brynhild,"



Ok call me a geek but i thought Freya (sp?) was the queen/leader of the valkyries?

aww well we all kinda geeks cos we play this game so u no more of one than us all

and i havent a clue about that stuff

 

[Farbaute2]

Ok call me a geek but i thought Freya (sp?) was the queen/leader of the valkyries?

Freya is the godess of love, like aphrodite or venus. She has very little do to with war. The Valkyries are flying female warriors working for the aesir collecting fallen warriors from the battlefield and bringing them to asgård. mythic got the name Brynhilda right but sigrun is actually a male hero called Sigurd who became brynhildas love, and not her twin sister as mythic thinks.

 

[Ezteq]

i sit corrected, and thanks for show of geek support kids.
So was freya a valk then? as i seem to recall her being mentioned in wagners ride of the valk's.....though i could be wrong™

 

[Farbaute2]

No she is one of the old gods. use google

 

[Daedalus]

I suppose that all that Mythic wanted was some hot twin sister action.

 

[Velimos McDuff]

I always thort the valkyries would take half of warroirs to fall on the battle feild to Valhalla [yes i know its the same sort of plain as asgard] and were working as Odins messengers/warroirs?