casual players

[Adoctor]

With the offset of Soe allowing people to buy items for rl cash, would any one else be willing to pay for arty encounters, ML's and arties using RL cash?

Basically my time spent on DAOC is limited compared to most people, i really don't get enough time online to do ML's (only 1 char up to ML8 since TOA was released) or camp the "must have" artys to be able to compete in RvR.

I would be willing to pay RL cash for ML encounters, arty encounters, etc.

RL cash i have, loads of time to sit infront of my PC, i don't have.

i know that most online games don't favour casual players, but at least Soe gives casual players a chance.

 

[Mundokar]

Imo it should stay a game. I want to pay for the account to be able to play, but buying ML's, arties etc with RL cash is 1 bridge to far.

 

[Thorwyn]

I don´t think there´s any reason to buy items with irl money. All items are farmable... so is ingame money. It´s just a matter of patience. However! ML´s are a different story. I´m really interesting how Mythic is gonna resolve the problem of a decreasing interest in ML raids for new casual players. I´d say that in a couple of months - with new expansions and patches and all hardcore players already being ml10 with all their alts - ML raids will be rare events, especially the ones that require a decent size army to be succesful. ("But you can do them all with 3-4 fg´s!" I hear the powergames say. True, but only of you´re experienced enough and neither the casual players, not the new players are ).

 

[Arkian]

I think mythic need to look at the few ML encounters that still cause a lot of problems with small numbers, e.g. 4.2, 6.9 etc. I think as you stated, since the number of large raids will decrease over time, that a model of 1 to 2fg maximum needed would be much better.

 

[Adoctor]

tbh its not the number of people needed to do the ml's, its the time it takes.

Most raids start around 5-6pm gmt, which means that straight away i can't attend cause i don't get home to 6pm. Most of the time i log on around 9pm gmt and by that time there is no point doing a raid.

If i could, i would spend £50-150 to get ML10.

Also arty encounters, i spent all my time over the weekend staring at a bush in GG waiting for CS mob to pop. I would again spend RL money to get the encounter, my time is important no matter how easy a encounter is or isn't.

 

[pomalllka]

This is the main reason the game is on its ass. Way too much time sink (at least 6 months more if you cant play 3+ nights a week)before you will be anywhere close to be able to compete in rvr.

I honestly could not recomend any new people to play DAOC as the curve is simply too hard.

Pom

 

[Thorwyn]

see... that´s the difference between a mmorpg and counterstrike.
if you´re not patient enough or can´t spend the time, then it doesn´t mean the game sucks, it just means that this isn´t the right game for you. trying to bend the game to your needs isa band idea.

 

[ImaNoobie]

I would be willing to pay RL cash for ML encounters, arty encounters, etc.

RL cash i have, loads of time to sit infront of my PC, i don't have.

i know that most online games don't favour casual players, but at least Soe gives casual players a chance.

Ok, im lost. You have lots of cash, you don't have lots of time to play?

Adoctor Lvl 50 Healer (1059 SC)
Garsha Lvl 37 Thane (1148 AC)
Boneidle Lvl 44 Bonedancer (1132 TA)
Solvaat Lvl 21 Savage (1110 WC)
Almicis Lvl 20 Hunter (1082 FL)
Inquis Lvl 30 Skald (1082 AL)
Idovoo Lvl 50 Spirit Master
Uniq Lvl 50 Healer

^
That is a hell of a lot of time, i barely have time for 2 characters and they are both under level 50 and under 800 tradeskill. I've been playing 'casually' since release with a few holidays......

What are players called before they become casual players?

 

[Adoctor]

well been playing for 3 years now.

Also don't have lots of cash, just willing to pay RL money for Mls. etc.

crafting is easy (if u use trade skill tools), leveling is easy (now thanks to free level) and doc is the only char to have starting ml's. Doc was leveled to 50 alooooooong time ago and my 2 new 50's have been thanks to the free level and MG.

I know people who have 6+ ML10 50 characters who have time do artys, ml's etc.

 

[Chronictank]

well been playing for 3 years now.

Also don't have lots of cash, just willing to pay RL money for Mls. etc.

crafting is easy (if u use trade skill tools), leveling is easy (now thanks to free level) and doc is the only char to have starting ml's. Doc was leveled to 50 alooooooong time ago and my 2 new 50's have been thanks to the free level and MG.

I know people who have 6+ ML10 50 characters who have time do artys, ml's etc.

generally try to keep my raids on weekend morning best i can for that reason, but we all got a rl now and again
as for taking chars on mls i would get someone to bot for in game cash as irl cash is against the coc ^^

 

[Awarkle]

1.75 is going to be making mls much more easier for people to complete, most of the pre recs are removed and you can get the x.10 credit now without having the other steps.

Also battelgroup leaders can grant credit within a certain time frame if you ld during the raid and miss a step.

From what i have read most mls take around an hour to two to complete and thye leave the group / solo steps up to individual players to complete in a few days.

So no more 5 hours raids waiting for lds etc things should get a lot easier for so called casual players (btw they dont exist just lazy people)

 

[judas]

Free mls for everyone imo. and faster repop or artis and everyone in the group gets a arti each!!

 

[Mey]

Free mls for everyone imo. and faster repop or artis and everyone in the group gets a arti each!!

no word of a lie?

 

[Ogen]

They should reduce the respawn timer on encounters, and make the ml´s much less time demanding.. Altho it sounds like the ml thingy is allready taken care off.

 

[Oboy]

omg 6 lgm crafters and u got no time

a hint, if u dont want to camp artifacts just go farm some scrolls with high demand on the market. Then buy the artifact. There is actually some scrolls u dont have to farm uber 60+ mobs for who pays quite well. Example tyrus epic poem, arbiters papers and with ur SM u should be able to farm GOV scrolls. I baught all artifacts in my temp and i say the time it took getting plats for it wasnt that bad.

ML´s thou are a problem. Best thing to do is to join a ML rush and try to do as many mls as possible in a short period.

 

[Cirandi]

nvrmind

 

[Fenderon]

a hint, if u dont want to camp artifacts just go farm some scrolls with high demand on the market. Then buy the artifact.

afaik adoc only needs CS encounter on his SM, not the artifact.. he has that and the scrolls.

 

[Adoctor]

afaik adoc only needs CS encounter on his SM, not the artifact.. he has that and the scrolls.

yes...i suppose my "rant" comes from camping CS and it not popping.

After wasting my weekend waiting for it to pop i would of paid millions for the encounter.

 

[Oboy]

ok ic, nm then
personally i have no problems getting cred on arties, always tend to logg in at the right times

 

[Chronictank]

ok ic, nm then
personally i have no problems getting cred on arties, always tend to logg in at the right times

its people abusing this
e.g on pry a person joined bg for credit, he got last hit in, left the bg and picked it up

Was reported, because he was in the bg nothing GOA could do

I personaly inv people anyway but i can understand why others wouldnt

 

[Oboy]

its people abusing this
e.g on pry a person joined bg for credit, he got last hit in, left the bg and picked it up

Was reported, because he was in the bg nothing GOA could do

I personaly inv people anyway but i can understand why others wouldnt

its sad ppl abusing this bcs it only makes it harder for honest ppl to get credit

 

[kirennia]

yes...i suppose my "rant" comes from camping CS and it not popping.

After wasting my weekend waiting for it to pop i would of paid millions for the encounter.

Log on alt there and just log it in once every couple of hours or so. Guaranteed to be less of a drag then staying there for hours on end.

 

[Gorrion]

It's a very bad idea to start paying rl money to get ML or artifact's in-game.
But i totally agree that the TOA expansion have severly damage the game enjoyment for ALL casual players, and made it a impossible task for these players to ever get these trails done . . . the player base since TOA release have dropped 56.4 % overall and alot of these im sure represent casual gamers.
The ML's should have been possible to do solo aswell "all 10 ml levels" , as in a grp or in a raid.
I know that mythic these days are doing everything to undo some of the damage TOA brought to DAoC, but it's to late . . . a fact we have all felt and seen.
I just hope that in future mmog's the providers of these games will have learned from this FATAL mistake mythic did to their wonderful realm DAoC when they released the TOA-grind.
even if DAoC is 4 years old now . . . im sure the player base would have been the same or even bigger than pre TOA, if they had not made it such a grind to complete any new introduction to the game (TOA)

 

[Matteh]

A fact: Buffbot players will never be more than RR1L1

? Whats the deal with that

 

[Gorrion]

? Whats the deal with that

Its a statement im holding on to, ever since i started playing DAoC and got aware of the abuse from these boots . . . actually it IS like paying rl life money for easy mode DAoC. . .
My aguments on FreddysHouse/Barrysworld are many on this isue, but in my view it is a FACT that buffbot useres are low brained noobs who will never gain any respect from me. Hence they are never more than RR1L1, no matter what rank they have written above their toon ingame.

 

[Awarkle]

most peoples bots are generally realm rank 3ish and some bots can easily get rr5. Normally because people rez themselveswith there bots + run with a di bot grouped so they get rps.

its easy to get rps as a bot

 

[Matteh]

Its a statement im holding on to, ever since i started playing DAoC and got aware of the abuse from these boots . . . actually it IS like paying rl life money for easy mode DAoC. . .
My aguments on FreddysHouse/Barrysworld are many on this isue, but in my view it is a FACT that buffbot useres are low brained noobs who will never gain any respect from me. Hence they are never more than RR1L1, no matter what rank they have written above their toon ingame.

ic.