Can't we like ban every goddamn enchanter somehow?

[madferrit]

Dawnbringer mentioned Cabbies <no sniggering> but what do ppl think about using them? With a Bob by ya side would that be viable against chanters and other???

I luv my cabby and was hoping to use him again, or will i spend eternity wishing id rolled another char?

 

[recontour]

If u want a honest answer do not make a Cabby, very few of them on the other PVP servers where i come from, and its with a good reason.. Sure they are nice to have for the AE DOT in large groups, but solo i fear no Cabby, and it dosnt matter what class u play, Cabbys sux in general, they are weak, they dont have speed, their pet dont snare... All in all if u want a pet class the Enchanter is the best shot, but yep there is a zillion off them, and YES they Rox vs lower players, but as soon as u get high level Enchanters are crap, you will soon learn how to kill them with easy.. Enchanters at high level are only good if Mana specced for PBAE in defence off Keep and Money Farming and xp groups of cause.. The light specced enchanter is "okay" for a solo class in pvp, but only if he get the jump.. when ppl get the high resist they turn weak.. just remember when u have hit the Pet Once in melee it will stop casting spells on u, and just follow you and try and hit you, and since most enchnaters use Caster pets they do crap to you, all they do is interupt your spells

 

[Dawnbringer]

Passive - Defend - Attack and the pet starts nukin again..

About cabalists one of the weakest classes, i dont think so myself.. With high matter + medium body.. Root him(perhaps he purges, if not nearsight + decease him).. Double stack dots on the skald.. (pet will prolly be mezzed when it gets close).. sprint (he cant waste his end like you do).. make sure you do this before he gets 700blocks from yah .. turn around stack2 dots again.. and lifedrain him to death..

For assasins the only thing you need is MoC.. Lifedrain them to death and stick pet om them.. If they gonna run just stack 2 dots and the pet will finish it off..

For chanters its just who gets his (stun/nearsight) off first..

Atleast this is how i see cabalists

 

[recontour]

Lolzor.. a decent skald player would rape a Cabby in 2 seconds.

Nuke-Snare- 2 hits = dead Cabby and if he wants to he will start by mezzing ur pet.

 

[Dawnbringer]

Originally posted by recontour
Lolzor.. a decent skald player would rape a Cabby in 2 seconds.

Nuke-Snare- 2 hits = dead Cabby and if he wants to he will start by mezzing ur pet.

Well first of all a skald has 2 be in really close range..

A cabbi can cast ns at 2300 which rapes up the skald speed (and make him have to come in pboae range before he can use his tricks).. Giving him enough time to root, decease, dot, etc..

If a skald can get into range unnoticed by the cabi (or cabi sees him and doesnt react cuz he thinks its only gonna be friendly fire ) yeah the skald will rape him and rape him fast..

 

[recontour]

I of cause only speak about pvp servers. and the places you pvp on a pk server isnt as open and wide, of cause the cabby will have a chance if he sees the skald first.. but really, if the skald starts sprinting and with his speed he will be very close in the time that it will take the cabby to cast spells.. Im sure a Skald would win 8 out of 10 times if not more

 

[Dawnbringer]

Originally posted by recontour
I but really, if the skald starts sprinting and with his speed he will be very close in the time that it will take the cabby to cast spells..

sprinting + speed = really fast But casting ns at 2300 with 1.5s (2s with 50dex) drops his speed fast too.. giving enough time to root the skald.. If the skald purge the cabi has more of enough time to single dot, sprint to a safe distance (skald is running out of end fast here).. Then double dot the skald again.. which give you maybe 3~4 x 100 damage of the first dot and 12x100 from spec dots which kill the skald pretty easily (unless he is uber buffed).. And finally he can get one more tick in (if the skald get close) by bumping up his hp using /qc lifetap to filter out the shout damage..

 

[recontour]

Lets not forget we are talking about good players here... and this is just me, i allways use Charged items, and i could just use a Dot Shield on you or a DD... whatever is fine and ill interupt all your spells... trust me, a decent skald wouldnt have a problem with a cabby =)

But maybe you are right, ive just never met anyone who can play a Cabby that good.. its a little harder in the heat of battle...

 

[Dawnbringer]

I think it will be pretty much decided by who attacks who, the skill of the player (im not talking about pure matter cabis here that can press there aoe dot butting on a wall fight.. and yell how uber they are, after they gotten twinkled to 50). And not forgot about the connection of both players

Still i think a cabalist is one of the few casters/classes that can give a skald a pretty harsh live..

Cuz like you said skalds own in pvp

[out of topic question]
How well does a friar + warden do on a PvP server as combo? (Me and my gf are doubin about that combo 2 )
How we see it is you get +24% to all magic and a 6s bubble With one more stronger fighter (friar) and a medium/weak fighter/healer (warden)
[/out of topic question]

 

[old.Rusfighter]

"which give you maybe 3~4 x 100 damage of the first dot and 12x100 from spec dots which kill the skald pretty easily (unless he is uber buffed)" - my 50 RR5 skald WITHOUT any buffs got 1400+HP.

 

[Dawnbringer]

Originally posted by old.Rusfighter
"which give you maybe 3~4 x 100 damage of the first dot and 12x100 from spec dots which kill the skald pretty easily (unless he is uber buffed)" - my 50 RR5 skald WITHOUT any buffs got 1400+HP.

Like i said i you will be getting around 1400~1500 damage of the dots (but i believe the highest lvl dots, tick for more then 100 just didnt wanna write up to high numbers) + lifetap So maybe i should have stated non buffed up then again i believe dots tick a little harder then 100 can anyone confirm this?

 

[NoBrains]

Don't need to ban enchanters they just needing a bit love from mythic like taking they're speed out cast pets take snare out
stop letting pets attack though walls <- very stupid

bye bye chanter gank =)

 

[recontour]

A friar/Warden would own... just remember to go Battlewarden meaning 6sec pbt, and rest in Melee skills, fuk healing!

But if u want a really good duel team in PvP id say Skald and Minstrel, together they can rape really good!

The problem is U wont be able to cast spells on the Skald if he uses a Dot Shield, it will interupt ur casting
You WILL die to a good skald player Unless you jump him and his AFK getting a blowjob from his girlfriend at the same time his smoking on a big fat joint... ohh and his house has to be on fire aswell before u stand a chance.

 

[Dawnbringer]

Yuh LOS bugges me most about enchanters
Ever been in a city where a pet start nuking you from inside a building ? arg already getting pissed about it again

 

[Dawnbringer]

Hmm when you get 2 musical classes wouldnt be a bard + skald even be better (run song + perma sprint = catching up everygroup you see)

Which is also the problem why i dont like beeing either the friar or warden And also the a prob with the cabalist you dont have speed Which is damn important when u wanna get a way of purples

 

[recontour]

Bard - Skald? i must laugh Ha ha!...
The bard has NO dmg output.. well he has his 1 shout and then he can lick his ..... The minstrel and skald are awesome cause they both do good melee dmg, they both have good shouts, the minstrel has 2... the minstrel also has a stun and Mez / AE Mez.. + u can lure people out by having the minstrel in stealth... So they see 1 skald and gets surpriced by a AE mezzing Minstrel, that combo can take out 3-5 players if they work well together and attack the same targets Healer/CC first, then their casters.. + they will have Speed of Sound if in trouble to get the hell outa there.

 

[Dawnbringer]

A minstrel would either have to gimp his music line or his weapon spec if he want decent stealth..

Next to that there ae mez sucks No instant, short duration.. And minstrels melee damage output isnt that great either..

Arg what the heck maybe i should just go and play a friar and will see how it will go then And solo up a cabbie when my gf doesnt play ;P