Can't Play Like This

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old.Dillinja

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Incredible lag every night that I log on around this time. I'm on a broadband connection which is fine around the clock except for when Werner hits 3 dots. Then the lag kicks in, unplayable, causing me to shoot my own and miss the enemy. Sometimes chat messages hitting the box 10-20 seconds after I typed them.

This is definately not a paying service and if it stays this way I will not be re-newing my monthly subs.

Anyone else having the same probs? People in my squad were too, so I know it's not just me, and before any of you say 'move to a less populated continent', I shouldn't have to. I bought the game thinking the server would be a reliable and fast one. Instead, it seems the yanks have fucked us over and gave us some second rate rusty old piece of junk.
 
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[PS]Nova

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Originally posted by old.Dillinja
Incredible lag every night that I log on around this time. I'm on a broadband connection which is fine around the clock except for when Werner hits 3 dots. Then the lag kicks in, unplayable, causing me to shoot my own and miss the enemy. Sometimes chat messages hitting the box 10-20 seconds after I typed them.

This is definately not a paying service and if it stays this way I will not be re-newing my monthly subs.

Anyone else having the same probs? People in my squad were too, so I know it's not just me, and before any of you say 'move to a less populated continent', I shouldn't have to. I bought the game thinking the server would be a reliable and fast one. Instead, it seems the yanks have fucked us over and gave us some second rate rusty old piece of junk.
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We did have this problem once, but we've not had unplayable lag since they fixed the lag issue (yesterday? day before?).

No ideas I'm afraid.
 
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old.Dillinja

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Bleh, seems to have got worse since that patch. I've come to a conclusion that SOE can't do anything right and that they're worse than GOA.
 
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SilverHood

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was terrible earlier too

can't be arsed to log in and check it atm
 
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Saturnine

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Said it before and I'll say it again, its greedy and sloppy when games like this get released when really, they should still be in beta :rolleyes:
 
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Summo

Guest
I've never had a lag problem, ever. Screen drawing occasionally takes a little time when there's a big battle going on, but no. Never any lag.

I don't believe your problems are caused by Werner, tbh.
 
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Scouse

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Lol!

The only reason I haven't bought this game was because I feared that if Dave Georgeson (the project head) was at the helm he may release a bugged piece of crap. Like he did with Tribes2.

A lot of reports sound like he's been true-to-form - don't worry though people - Tribes2 rocks now (not that there's anyone around left to play it really) - but in 1 years time Planetside will be stable, speedy and fun ;)

:D
 
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Faeldawn

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East Coast servers are a bit better, even when they have double the population.

Im convinced that the US servers are infinitely better than the Euro one.
 
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Gekul

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Not really had the lag after the patch.

There aren't that many bugs either tbh.
 
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Rigon-Noir-

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I started getting lag at the beggining of this week, a friend says patch sorted it out but i did notice bits last night, certainly enough to make and vehicle travel and any acurate killing difficult (i just spray tho ;)). tbh i thought it was this pc, 1.4ghz p4 with 640 ram and a gf4 ti. got a 1 meg connection so i dont see any probs there but i tried it on my other pc, i 1.7ghz with 1meg of ram and same gf4 ti card and it was the same so its not the pc.

I'm sure it will be fine in time but i understand why people get pissed off, the whole premise of Planetside that drew us in (by us i mean me and a few mates) was the mass battles between 3 realms, at the moment, mass battles are becoming difficult to enjoy and we find ourselves trying to find less populated action.


ps: anyone reading this with any influence on PS development plz sort out the life loss for stairs/small hills etc. I can jump off the base walls and lose the same hp's i do running down stairs, it is starting to get a little annoying now :(


Noir BR11 Adv Hack/Infil/Reaver/AMS
Rigon BR6 Spec Assault/Eng

Serving WRK and The Vanu Sovereignty
 
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^MisterJingo^

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No lag at all. I did find that evenings caused lagging, but this was due to the amount of people on screen. I lowered the visual options and its all fixed.
 
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Jupitus

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A likely cause for your lag is the route to the server through your ISP. Before you start ranting more I recommend you check this out first, as you'll end up looking a right tit when others are playing with no lag and the server is indeed fine.

Go and get a copy of ping plotter at www.pingplotter.com and then set it up to trace the route to 195.33.135.34 the Werner server. Leave this running in the background while you play (it won't impact performance) and then when you get a spell of lag use alt+tab to flick over and check the trace.

I have a crisp tenner in my pocket says you'll see you are getting chunks of packet loss and/or latency at nodes on the route to the server. You can save the data to a text file and post the results here.

People with a lack of technical knowledge are quick to blame issues like this on the server or provider. Check your facts first, I say.
 
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SilverHood

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anyone got werner IP address?

btw, the east coast servers are fine for me, just werner that lags
 
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old.Dillinja

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Originally posted by Jupitus
A likely cause for your lag is the route to the server through your ISP. Before you start ranting more I recommend you check this out first, as you'll end up looking a right tit when others are playing with no lag and the server is indeed fine.
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Bleh, there had to be one didn't there. If you want to come into my thread and talk about my 'ranting' and how I'm a right 'tit', I'd rather not have your reply. No matter how constructive you think it is. Like I said, other people were complaining of the lag in my outfit, on my squad channel, and on broadcast so hold back the insults before you open your mouth again, please.
 
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Jupitus

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Grow up Dilinja - I'm saying that you will look a tit if the server turns out to be fine. You want to know where the problem lies? Then spend your time doing what I told you rather than trying to flame me for offering advice.
 
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Jupitus

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... and your double posts are also a possible indication of some latency issues with your ISP....;)
 
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SilverHood

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or the BW sever being dodgy :p

serisouly tho, one night, during a planned outfit campaign, everyone on the continent was experiencing 30 second lag feezes, every 15 seconds

we moved continent, and then the zone crashed under the pressure

logged on last night (after playing UT with a ping of 80 to danish servers), uber lag hit me, I killed 2 guys standing there.

I was hearing xplosions behind me, but they werent hurting me

I ran outside the tower, and wham, I was dead - I never even got up the stairsw from the towe basement

it *is* unplayable a lot of the time, and when everyone else in my outfit is feeling the same lag, then its not my connection.
 
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Jupitus

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The fact that others experience the lag does not define it as a server problem though... it is quite possible that your ISP and others are routing traffic to the server through the same backbone provider, and this might be where the issue lies.

I'm not saying that there isn't a problem with the server, I'm just saying that to be sure when you lag you should double check what is happening with your own routing using pingplotter before jumping to conclusions.

I have found, for example, that in heavy battles I get severe packet loss and latency when using my regular Demon Internet a/c, but quite often the same packet loss doesn't occur via Freeserve although sometimes it can.

Sure, if one of the main backbones to the Werner server is shagged then SOE need to apply whatever pressure they can on their ISP to have them find alternate routing, but frankly until we know for sure we shouldn't make assumptions.
 
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SilverHood

Guest
shame jupitus ain't the usual daoc bred flamer... he actually gives a good argument, and now i'll have to check my connection when I play... why can't he just be a normal spoilt kiddo with profanity to spare? was so easy to just blame things on the server, everyone was happy... :p Can't even ridicule him because he makes sense

*sigh*

:)
 
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old.Dillinja

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Originally posted by SilverHood
shame jupitus ain't the usual daoc bred flamer... he actually gives a good argument, and now i'll have to check my connection when I play... why can't he just be a normal spoilt kiddo with profanity to spare? was so easy to just blame things on the server, everyone was happy... :p Can't even ridicule him because he makes sense

*sigh*

:)
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I'm sorry, I don't understand.
 
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trafikk_jamm

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Jupitus there is a server lag problem, SOE admit it, lets just hope they get it sorted finally, sometime soon.


posted 06-07-2003 09:46 PM user search report post
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We're aware that there is still a server lag issue at certain times. We've seen it, and are aware of what it is... and have people working on fixing it. It's an actual bug, and it's not been an easy one. It will be fixed in very short order. I don't want to give an ETA other than to say it's being worked on and it will be fixed soon.
We apologize for this problem.

John Smedley
President, Sony Online Entertainment



posted 06-07-2003 10:03 PM user search report post
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I'm playing (as are a lot of the Dev team) most every night. Yes, it bugs the heck out of me too. It didn't just dawn on us to fix this one - it's one of those extremely technical problems that's not easy to fix... plus we need to do it live without messing things up. Kind of like changing the engine of an airplane in flight - the network layer of this game is an extremely complicated thing..

John Smedley




Katya BR15 VS
Trafikk BR9 VS
 
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SilverHood

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max ping of 150 at bletchley doesn't explain why I get a 30 second freeze where I cant do anything

deffo not my connection :)
 
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Jupitus

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Thanks for the update Traffik, it does sound like they have isolated something. Fact still remains though, that we should still check our own routing and packet loss before pointing fingers. I know, for example, about the issues I get when using Demon Internet which aren't always there if I switch to Freeserve. That said, of course, I am on a 56k connection so never expected it to be perfect... hopefully I will be finally able to get adsl soon.
 
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Jupitus

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Originally posted by SilverHood
max ping of 150 at bletchley doesn't explain why I get a 30 second freeze where I cant do anything

deffo not my connection :)
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... did you check for packet loss, Silver?
 
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