Cancer

[old.user4556]

I've never really paid much attention to it, it's always been a head-in-sand disease to me, probably a very ignorant approach to something I always presumed that would only affect old or unhealthy people.

It was the tail end of last year that a close family friend was diagnosed with an aggresive form of brain tumour (Glioblastoma) and was dead in less than one year. It was very disturbing that someone could get ill and die so fast, but I would have presumed it was something that could be removed and treated. How wrong could I be, it turns out that people that suffer from this form of cancer are usually dead in 6-12 months even if they removed 99.9% of the tumour and have courses of intense chemo/radio therapy.

Thing is, this friend was older, he was 65 and lived a good enjoyable life. But what about Richard Burns? He was only a young guy and died of a brain tumour, as did Emlyn Hughes. Furthermore, I was reading that the porn star Lea De Mae was only 27 when she died in a matter of months from a glioblastoma.

I find it terrifying.

I know some people here have lost people to cancer, and on my quest for trying to find fucking answers as to why modern medicine is not really any further forward, I found some links on a "new" viral treatment that is showing very promising results against brain tumours (and other cancers) in clinical trials. It appears that genetically engineered virii don't attack the human body, but attack tumours/cancer at a rapid rate and wiping the cancer out in some cases. Very promising for the future.

http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=378

http://www.isracast.com/tech_news/260106_tech.aspx

 

[tris-]

i read a long time ago about putting gold filaments inside the tumour.
then supplying a source of thermal radiation to heat these filaments. which would, i assume, kill the the tumour by heat alone.

but im afraid i have no article to supply about it

 

[Trem]

I cant give any useful information I'm afraid, my mum got cancer and had her womb removed and shes fine.

Obviously we all want our loved ones to live forever but what would happen if cancer was cured? Where would all the extra people go and how would the world support them?

How many people die each year from cancer?

I can't help thinking its a natural form of keeping a balance.

My views on it thats all.

 

[SawTooTH]

I cant give any useful information I'm afraid, my mum got cancer and had her womb removed and shes fine.

Obviously we all want our loved ones to live forever but what would happen if cancer was cured? Where would all the extra people go and how would the world support them?

How many people die each year from cancer?

I can't help thinking its a natural form of keeping a balance.

My views on it thats all.

I think the real reason is that human beings used to die from other diseases that modern medicine have all but erradicated. What you see now, in cancers and heart disease are the limits of our biological systems under present environmental/ genetic factors.

In terms of new therapies there are many many more on the way. Our understanding of cancer is increasing exponentially and there are some smart people looking at fairly innovative strategies for targeting the disease.

My mother for instance is currently living with breast cancer. She was first diagnosed when I was 18 and following a mastectomy was free till a few years ago, when it returned (elsewhere). She's been on 3 different drug regimes and it has so far given her 5 additional years she would not have had otherwise. I know that there are more new classes of drug in clinical trials at the moment so there will be more options availiable in the future.

Glioblastomas are tricky cancers but I think quite rare compared to other cancers. Breast for women (& men occasionally) and Prostate for men are the biggies together with colorectal.

 

[Tom]

Getting diagnosed with cancer would be horrid.

But I'd counterbalance that by not telling the credit agencies, and going on a massive bender.

I'd also have a headstone in the shape of a penis.

 

[Trem]

I'd also have a headstone in the shape of a penis.

Just leave your head poking out the ground.

 

[dysfunction]

I cant give any useful information I'm afraid, my mum got cancer and had her womb removed and shes fine.

Obviously we all want our loved ones to live forever but what would happen if cancer was cured? Where would all the extra people go and how would the world support them?

How many people die each year from cancer?

I can't help thinking its a natural form of keeping a balance.

My views on it thats all.

And thats why nature has also created Aids/Hiv....a good way of keeping a booming popilation in check...

 

[leggy]

And thats why nature has also created Aids/Hiv....a good way of keeping a booming popilation in check...

Wow that was almost as silly as your antibiotic comment

 

[Gat_Decor]

i read a long time ago about putting gold filaments inside the tumour.
then supplying a source of thermal radiation to heat these filaments. which would, i assume, kill the the tumour by heat alone.

but im afraid i have no article to supply about it

Just watched a report on TV about something similar, A probe is inserted into the cancerous growth and microwaves are fired into it via the probe!

 

[Lester]

Apparent'y they can inject you with Raquel Welch and Donald Pleasance - that'll sort it!

 

[leggy]

Only if it's prehistoric.

 

[SawTooTH]

Apparent'y they can inject you with Raquel Welch and Donald Pleasance - that'll sort it!

Showing your age

 

[old.Tohtori]

If i remember correctly, cancer is a part of our genes. Basicly a manufacturing defect.

Some study or so told...but don't quote me on it.

 

[Dukat]

If i remember correctly, cancer is a part of our genes. Basicly a manufacturing defect.

Some study or so told...but don't quote me on it.

Wasnt there something a while back where some scientists mapped the human Genome or something, so that we should beable to sort that out in the near future through messing with the genes ?

Dodgy stuff though - messing with genes might not be wise, could have unforseen consequences in the distant future that could be impossible to correct or something

My nan got diagnosed with cancer just over a month ago, hopefully she'll pull through, they're as optomistic as they can be but cancer is obviously always bad news.

 

[dysfunction]

Wow that was almost as silly as your antibiotic comment

Oi!!!

 

[rynnor]

If i remember correctly, cancer is a part of our genes. Basicly a manufacturing defect.

Aye - its basically a replication error - remember all that stuff about all the cells in your body being replaced every 7 years?

Well cells in your body are constantly die'ing and being replaced (except in your brain) and its this replacement mechanism that incredibly rarely goes wrong and produces cells that are wrong and replicate themselves into tumours.

Its a tiny statistical chance that your bodies cell replication mechanism goes wrong but theres an awfull lot of cells in your body - this is why your more likely to get cancer as you get older as youve effectively been in the cancer lottery for longer.

Environmental factors can also disturb this replication mechanism - too much sun exposure can damage the cells in your skin so that the replication method is more likely to go wrong.

Certain factors can damage your DNA itself such as radiation - in this case the 'template' thats used to determine what the new cell should be like gets damaged and it spews out damaged copies.

Some people also have a genetic pre-disposition to certain cancers.

(Simplistic but broadly true).

 

[Trem]

Aye - its basically a replication error - remember all that stuff about all the cells in your body being replaced every 7 years?

Well cells in your body are constantly die'ing and being replaced (except in your brain) and its this replacement mechanism that incredibly rarely goes wrong and produces cells that are wrong and replicate themselves into tumours.

Its a tiny statistical chance that your bodies cell replication mechanism goes wrong but theres an awfull lot of cells in your body - this is why your more likely to get cancer as you get older as youve effectively been in the cancer lottery for longer.

Environmental factors can also disturb this replication mechanism - too much sun exposure can damage the cells in your skin so that the replication method is more likely to go wrong.

Certain factors can damage your DNA itself such as radiation - in this case the 'template' thats used to determine what the new cell should be like gets damaged and it spews out damaged copies.

Some people also have a genetic pre-disposition to certain cancers.

(Simplistic but broadly true).

Interesting and well put. Even I understood that.

Now tell me how to get rid of my piles

 

[old.user4556]

Stop doing goatse poses

 

[rynnor]

Now tell me how to get rid of my piles

Get laser treatment and they can seal them - or eat more fibre

 

[Trem]

Get laser treatment and they can seal them - or eat more fibre

Lasers up my arse?

I eats loads of fibre, going doctors tomorrow about it anyways, its because poohing bores me and I have always forced my pooh out.

Can't believe I am going to have a finger up my arse tomorrow and Big G ain't even visiting

 

[TdC]

force poos? dammit Trem never force poos!!!

get your fave mag or something and sit the throne, waiting for gravity and your peristaltics to do your job for you!

 

[DaGaffer]

force poos? dammit Trem never force poos!!!

get your fave mag or something and sit the throne, waiting for gravity and your peristaltics to do your job for you!

That doesn't necessarily help...

 

[TdC]

indeed, I'd not know what does, though I've been trying my method for 31 years and it works well for me

 

[leggy]

Daily meal of prune juice followed by a course of dates. Pudding should consist of copious amounts of liquorice.

Enjoy the follow through.

 

[rynnor]

Lasers up my arse?

I think so or at least heat - they cauterise the blood vessels that form the piles if memory serves.

 

[Trem]

The doctor didn't finger me, I sat down as soon as I got in there and made it clear I was having none of it. He didn't seem keen on the idea either.

Anyways, he gav me some cream but I haven't used it yet, they are better now I aren't forcing so much and I am using some moisturised bog paper.

The doctor visit was horrid, he even laughed when I told him what was wrong, he then also suggested the arse laser, but made it clear it was a horrible thing to have done and before that they put a pipe up your arse with a camera inside.

Fuck that.

 

[TdC]

they put a pipe up your arse with a camera inside.

Fuck that.

don't sweat it Trems, Richard Gere does that all the time and he gets lots of hot women!

 

[Trem]

don't sweat it Trems, Richard Gere does that all the time and he gets lots of hot women!

Does he have piles like grapes and a tiny cock though?

 

[TdC]

I don't know mate: he's never offered to show me when he comes round for bridge and GT's :/