Can someone please tell me the ShadowZerker spec?

[-stormweaver-]

Probably gonna create the SZ spec, I just don't know what it is

Is it effective also? =o

Thanks in advance

 

[Arnor]

I heard 50 or 44 in LA/A and 34 stealth rest envenom might be good

 

[Hulbur]

My own personal favorite ( and the current spec of my own SB)

Left axe 44
(for the follow up to snowsquall ) and brilliant dam ;D

Axe 39
(easy to get to 50 )

Stealth 36
(because i plan on being a long time in getting RR5)

CS 10
( for the short dur stun on BS2)

Envenom 37+
(will get me lifebane in the end)

This spec is very much dependent on Spell crafting and über gear in my oppinion.

I must say i sometimes miss PA, but I am very group friendly compared to a regular 5 spec, because im basicly a zerger with stealth and posions. Soloing tanks is hard for me, but casters go down just as easy as for the other sb's.

If you autotrain points or count on getting RR5 quickly, just put more points into axe for a higher average damage.

 

[Runolaz]

The most common template is:

44Ax/44LA/35ST/35En/10CS

Some have variations of this, like 50AX/44LA or even 50AX/50LA.

I have 50AX/44LA /27EN/ST33/10CS and it works ok for me. I started out as a CB, and thus only got 4 points from autotraining. I could have bumped ST to 34, if I hade planed better .

 

[Carlos Bananos]

i have 36 axe and 39 LA and i still hit as hard as those SZ wussies.

 

[old.anubis]

44/44 (+5 to both) outdamages 35/39 (+5 to both) by 9% on doublefrost and by 16% on comeback, and also has 6% increase in weaponskill which determines the chance of being blocked/parried and miss rate
even further 50/44 spec vs 35/39 has 15% increase on doublefrost and 22% on comeback
http://vnboards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=40791892

before spellcraft shadowzerker will considerably outdamage 5-spec

 

[Runolaz]

Originally posted by old.anubis
44/44 (+5 to both) outdamages 35/39 (+5 to both) by 9% on doublefrost and by 16% on comeback, and also has 6% increase in weaponskill which determines the chance of being blocked/parried and miss rate
even further 50/44 spec vs 35/39 has 15% increase on doublefrost and 22% on comeback
http://vnboards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=40791892

before spellcraft shadowzerker will considerably outdamage 5-spec

Aye...I had SW39/LA39 and the difference to AX50/LA44 that I have now is considerable both in dmg and rate of Evade/Block/Parry.

With SC 5-spec will be much better than now, but so will a SZ, as they will focus on 4 skills, leaving more points for other stats.

Anyway SZ, CB, SB and 5-spec are all good IMO...only depends on how you wanna play your char.

 

[Zill]

My current spec is: LA 44 (51), Axe 39 (49), Stealth 33 (49), CS 34 (46), Env 27 (40) (figures in brackets represent respective level including items and realm rank). A little short for a SZ but I do high damage and have the CD style which is useful when soloing. I sacrificed a lower envenom level due to higher chance of resists and the opponant using purge. As well as the level 40 DOT and lvl 37 enervating poisons doing a sufficient job.

 

[Carlos Bananos]

So ppl keep telling me

When comparing my DFs/Comebacks/FGs to guild m8s (im in HoL, so lots to compare to ) mine are pretty much on par with 44/44, ofc they have a higher cap than me, but only slightly.

 

[Runolaz]

Originally posted by Rhun
My current spec is: LA 44 (51), Axe 39 (49), Stealth 33 (49), CS 34 (46), Env 27 (40) (figures in brackets represent respective level including items and realm rank). A little short for a SZ but I do high damage and have the CD style which is useful when soloing. I sacrificed a lower envenom level due to higher chance of resists and the opponant using purge. As well as the level 40 DOT and lvl 37 enervating poisons doing a sufficient job.

I picked 27EN for the the same reason.

...btw your spec is IMO the best 5-spec template .

 

[Runolaz]

Originally posted by Carlos Bananos
So ppl keep telling me

When comparing my DFs/Comebacks/FGs to guild m8s (im in HoL, so lots to compare to ) mine are pretty much on par with 44/44, ofc they have a higher cap than me, but only slightly.

As Anubis said the difference is only 9% on a DF, but you have to calculate in the reduced chance of evade/block/parry as well (and I don't mean on mobs). At least I noticed a huge diffrence on this when faced with classes that have these abilities.

I think Gedan has 50/50 or 50/44 so compare to with him

 

[Carlos Bananos]

I've already compared with Gedan is 43/44, and he keeps telling me how he wished he had a respec left so he could go 5 spec.

His doublefrost caps out about 430, while mine is 426, he averages about 160 on DF against infils, while im around 150. (unbuffed).

Ofcourse you have to take into account Gedans +axe/LA being Realm rank 6, where as at the time we compared i was RR2.

Would i give up PA+CD for an extra 5-10 pts on LA stlyes? Hell no.


The chance to reduce/parry/block/evade is marginal.

the only difference is i can one shot mages, SZ cant.



Just to compare wtih Ztyx next, he has 50 Axe


/Unity

 

[old.anubis]

well, i respecced from 45/45/35/35 critblade to 5-spec, i wish i never did that. 45+4 axe in my experience is much better than 38+4 (i dont have any +axe item). hell, i perf for 200 now when i used to do 700+. sure i can kill red shredder in df but still it's crap.
will see after spellcraft, meanwhile i'm playing healer, much more fun imo

 

[Carlos Bananos]

Originally posted by old.anubis
sure i can kill red shredder in df but still it's crap.

:chortle:



I somtimes get weak Pas like that, but more often than now im hitting for 4-500 with DB + Handaxe, and around 600-700 with a 2h axe.

 

[old.Sko]

IMO critblade is far more group friendly, though much more dependant on lag. Probably my expierence is limited (only rr4), but during respec bug i tried both high cs and dw templates and cs one seemed far more useful - as it allows you to take out any member of opposing group before anyone has time to react.

 

[Runolaz]

Originally posted by Carlos Bananos
I've already compared with Gedan is 43/44, and he keeps telling me how he wished he had a respec left so he could go 5 spec.

His doublefrost caps out about 430, while mine is 426, he averages about 160 on DF against infils, while im around 150. (unbuffed).

Would i give up PA+CD for an extra 5-10 pts on LA stlyes? Hell no.

The chance to reduce/parry/block/evade is marginal.

the only difference is i can one shot mages, SZ cant.

/Unity

Hmm...strange last time I talked to him he said he had respecced to 50SW/50LA when I told him about my 50Axe/44LA...I must have mixed up I guess

If you take a look at the number given by Anubis in the link, I find it strange that you experiance something different. Don't have the exact numbers, but I do a lot more than 160 with a DF on an INF.

...I'm at work now so I don't have the excact number, but with my setup and unbuffed I think I cap DF arround 489 or so.

 

[hellraisermk2]

What would be the best solo spec for an SB? I've had my Sb for five months now, but tis still a long way away from RvR action yet, but when (if) I get high enough to RvR I want to be pretty good solo wise. I won't have any buff 99% of the time either.

When the respec came, I went the SZ route for levelling purposes only. I don't like the idea of keeping that template for end game. For the moment, I'm aiming at a nice balanced 5 spec SB (with CS high enough for PA). Any suggestions?

I'm also autotraining stealth as high as I can bear.

 

[Carlos Bananos]

Gedan is definatly 43/44, it was the template i was going to respec to until i compared my 5 spec with other ppl in my guild.


To the above poster, there is not 'best spec', it all depends on playstyle.




tbh if i could, i would respec to pure critblade

 

[gedanskogg]

Well my first respec was into 50SW/50LA..
cuz at the time I didn't want envenom..
then I didn't want that high weapskill so I got 45/44 and 34cs..
now I'm using lifebane 44/43 skill.. we just have to w8 untill /Duel and see who's tha best sb specc

edit; runolas I had that spec when we talk, and I want it back

 

[gedanskogg]

Originally posted by Carlos Bananos
To the above poster, there is not 'best spec', it all depends on playstyle.

AMEN!

 

[Runolaz]

Originally posted by gedanskogg


edit; runolas I had that spec when we talk, and I want it back

If you look at the link provided by Anubis, looks like you get more if you spec 50/44 and put the rest into Envenom.

Guess you'll have to find a re-specstone ...when we get that patch...

btw...how was 45/44 with 34 in CS ?

 

[gedanskogg]

Well.. It's like putting all your power in the PA-CD combo..
not that good facing a infil cuz u'll seldom get PA on them, therefore u loose the 34p specced in CS :/

 

[Runolaz]

k...

Was thinking of PA - CD for mages and stuff.

So what your saying is that 44Axe/44La/34CS you will lack the Envenom to really rip those Inf's?

I'm not gonna change the spec on Runolas cuz I'm very happy with it. With 27 Envenom I can use the 40dot/37env/31snare and thats enough for me.

I was thinking more of Lesbos...not that happy with the current spec of 50CS/44SW/35ST/28EN. I think I have a respec left on her, so I was thinking of lowering CS to get lifebane, or going 44Axe/44La/34CS...

But then again I whant her to be different from Runolas so I'll guess I'll go with the CB spec on her

 

[Carlos Bananos]

in the past week, i've missed PA more than ever and has been giving me second thoughts, but i love my CD stun too much, i do PA infils somtimes (Rockk yesterday at amg odins got a big one ) but it is rare, any mage who i PA will die 99% of the time, if not from CD from poison, which imo is vital for beating QC Stun.

The extra weaponskill would be nice as a SZ, i do well vs most infils provding i dont get Dragonfanged (no purge atm) or they're more buffed than me

 

[Runolaz]

Originally posted by Carlos Bananos
in the past week, i've missed PA more than ever

...that sux

 

[Carlos Bananos]

~But, Gorre is up soon today, im hoping we can get a lot of SBs together in Svasud for some nice duels + tests.

 

[Runolaz]

Aye would be f¤cking nice to test the different specs, but probably best when we have the SC - Setup.

 

[ztyx]

Originally posted by Runolaz


If you look at the link provided by Anubis, looks like you get more if you spec 50/44 and put the rest into Envenom.

Guess you'll have to find a re-specstone ...when we get that patch...

btw...how was 45/44 with 34 in CS ?

aye! thought so too master Ged.

34 CS is also tempting for that stund and to take out mages quickly. But I guess u can do that easy with LA styles too

 

[Carlos Bananos]

Originally posted by Runolaz
Aye would be f¤cking nice to test the different specs, but probably best when we have the SC - Setup.

We can test more when all the high SC/Alchys hit the live server,


This will mainly be for fun, fighting different specs with our real armour/weapons without all the rediculace bonuses

 

[Runolaz]

Originally posted by Carlos Bananos
in the past week, i've missed PA more than ever and has been giving me second thoughts

I think it has to do with you low weaponspec. When SC comes and you can bump Axe/Sword to 50 I'll think you'll see less it though.