Can somebody explain the logic of rerolling on another server?

[Kraben]

I have a few reasons why I want to try a new server.

Firstly, its new. I've almost exclusively played midgard my entire daoc time since beta. Playing hib on semihigh/high level has always been something that have appealed to me. Yet, I didnt move.. why? Cause I still found Prydwen to be fun.

When we first created the fixed SC guildgroup a few months prior to NF alot were already speaking doom about WoW release and how NF would ruin RvR. We stuck with it though and kept on running after NF release. We found NF to be a blast! Alot of keep action and roaming gg's to fight. This changed tho.. with WoW coming and alot of the old guild groups found NF to be boring and moved either server or moved to wow, the rvr scene started to drop drasticly. Yet we still stayed..

Now the last couple of weeks it has only seemed to be Eclipse Alliance group that has been out on a regular basis - sorry if i've missed others. Thats 1 group... I really dont wanna base my rvr on just that. Also keep and tower sieges is far from something that happens every night and SC gg have found ourselves run more and more around and look for something that are just not there..

Then I happend to try a druid on avalon in a opted fg. I had a blast.. There was shitloads of action - much more than I was used to on pryd. Keep sieges going on, relic raid and fg's running around to fight. In the frontier zone we were in I saw roughly 30+ hibs, 35+ mids and about same amount of albs. This was between 3 and 4 am in the morning and this was comon I was told.. Now that kinda putted it into perspective.. more action here in these ungodly hours than in primetime on prydwen.

Of course RvR can go crazy on pryd now and then. We have several times made 45+k in 3-4 hours and last night we got 20k in 1½ hour... Just that its too unstabil, its more and more often there is nothing to fight or close to. Not my idea of fun.

 

[Majsan]

I rerolled for better RvR and I got it. Many times I roamed empty Emain Macha before I left. There was still FGs out, but when they didnt care shit about adding, and ruined whatever action there was, it wasn't any fun either. Clearly current hibs doesnt give a shit about this either, so what does it help that you have 3-4 gg's out when you'll fight 2 at once?

Prydwen wasn't always bad, just had it's ups and downs. You could get a great fight every now and then. Guild groups can offer good fights, but they can also kill RvR through domination. That's happened all the time on Prydwen - it's the natural flow of the server. It's always had its periods of life until someone started kicking too much ass, through good play, overpoweredness, or outnumbering, and noone bothered fight them.

But if you play this game for RvR, rerolling to a high pop server is definitively worth it. Cause those servers have enough people to not let a couple of guild groups control RvR.

What ilum said!

dont chop ur foot of deccy, bet you miss it

 

[Yma]

beacuse we get 10% more rps per kill than mids/albs in rvr means u wont play and is an excuse rather than a solution tbh

No ... as Eroda said, it just means that our server will never grow. Till there will be better options outside Prydwen, no one will be this mad to move their gaming time here. And right now, not only we have nonsense bonuses, but we lack activity too - hence I blame the lack of foresight by GoA and not the players.

This broken record said from the beginning that all realms in our servers needed incentives to grow, not just one, because the main problem wasn't the fact that hib was under and alb over populated, but the fact that all three realms were badly shaped. Those bonuses should have helped attracting people, not repelling them.

GoA should have planned them so that smaller servers were the most obvious choice for every reroller to all realms, and at the same time give incentives to those players to stay in their underpopulated realms: but this should have been done in the beginning, when we still had 1500+ players. Preventing the damage instead of waiting for it - we saw people start moving to Hibernia/somewhere from one week before NF, go figure.

 

[Puppet]

That's conviniently forgetting the 2 days free level cycles....

I was level 50 on my druid 2+ years ago. How does the free level help me every 2 days ? I gained 2x free levels on my bard who's now level 40.. woohooo!!!

The reason why people leave is because my alt bard dinged 38-->40 instead of 38--->39 ?

Free level has nothing to do with serious RvR in guildgroups and such. Guildgroups level to 50 ASAP and then go out RvR and PvE for ML/Arti's.

 

[Jupiter]

I was level 50 on my druid 2+ years ago. How does the free level help me every 2 days ? I gained 2x free levels on my bard who's now level 40.. woohooo!!!

The reason why people leave is because my alt bard dinged 38-->40 instead of 38--->39 ?

Free level has nothing to do with serious RvR in guildgroups and such. Guildgroups level to 50 ASAP and then go out RvR and PvE for ML/Arti's.

exactly, but atm in hib Eclipse, Golden Age, Dragon Ancestry, Na Fianna Dragun and Tuatha De Dannan/Eden Falls run fg gg's on a regular basis prime time (from what i could see over the last few weeks), yes 3am-4am the server is dead. But saying there is nobody to fight is nuts... eclipse even started taking a keep (& succeded with help) last nite ffs .. yes we all knew WoW would have an effect but rerolling to other servers is more detrimental imho... anyways as they say "if the horse is dead get off"

 

[tribute]

thing is most mid groups left/rerolled before the hibs started to get out.

BO/Mael/BaF were long gone before we even started seeing groups out in RvR.

Eclipse never been inactive since they started, get your facts right n00blar, so go cry somewhere else oke, bye.

And Baf gave up quite fast when PE and Eclipse was active end of OF and begining of NF, quiters

And yes i think those n00blar unskilled mid and alb grps leaving prydwen couse they cant compate, and yes its boring to get killed over and over by eclipse grp, and not getting any rp.

So easy solution go avalon/hib and pwnz0r afk'ers and unskilled zergs, you couldnt pwn on prydwen so you take easy way out from here hahahhaha

 

[Belomar]

Eh, who the fuck are you anyway? If you had any knowledge of the server, you would know that the RvR scene on Prydwen is reasonably even, but that there is currently appallingly little to fight.

 

[Kraben]

Eclipse never been inactive since they started, get your facts right n00blar, so go cry somewhere else oke, bye.

And Baf gave up quite fast when PE and Eclipse was active end of OF and begining of NF, quiters

And yes i think those n00blar unskilled mid and alb grps leaving prydwen couse they cant compate, and yes its boring to get killed over and over by eclipse grp, and not getting any rp.

So easy solution go avalon/hib and pwnz0r afk'ers and unskilled zergs, you couldnt pwn on prydwen so you take easy way out from here hahahhaha

Excuse me, but what an idiotic statement.. Do you really think its gonna be easy for a newly rolled hib group? Do you think its gonna be easy to fight alb and mid groups who have played together for a long time ranging rr9-11? Even zergs is gonna be tough to fight with low realm ranks.. Its gonna be tough work for a long time and I imagine we gonna get rolled over alot, but at least we will always see action.

Jupiter:
You mention alot of of hib guild groups, but they cant really have been out when we were cause we have very rarely seen more than 1-2 hib groups out with one being Eclipse Alliance group. Sunday there was quite some hib activity in odins and that was good and all. Just that its such a rare sight.. Perhaps they are beginning to run more now, but what about albs then? They dont even move out much in zergs anymore..

 

[Jupiter]

Eh, who the fuck are you anyway? If you had any knowledge of the server, you would know that the RvR scene on Prydwen is reasonably even, but that there is currently appallingly little to fight.

i'm me who the hell r u?

 

[Jupiter]

Excuse me, but what an idiotic statement.. Do you really think its gonna be easy for a newly rolled hib group? Do you think its gonna be easy to fight alb and mid groups who have played together for a long time ranging rr9-11? Even zergs is gonna be tough to fight with low realm ranks.. Its gonna be tough work for a long time and I imagine we gonna get rolled over alot, but at least we will always see action.

Jupiter:
You mention alot of of hib guild groups, but they cant really have been out when we were cause we have very rarely seen more than 1-2 hib groups out with one being Eclipse Alliance group. Sunday there was quite some hib activity in odins and that was good and all. Just that its such a rare sight.. Perhaps they are beginning to run more now, but what about albs then? They dont even move out much in zergs anymore..

well we run Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays 19:30 to midnight gmt if its of any benefit to u

 

[tribute]

I bet you think hib is easymode couse you never had a chanse vs the best hib grps on prydwen

gl

 

[Belomar]

well we run Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays 19:30 to midnight gmt if its of any benefit to u

Only Wednesdays seems to coincide then; we run Tuesday to Thursday and then Saturday and Sunday, 20 CET to 00 CET.

EDIT: I'm referring to tribute, not you, Jupiter.

 

[Kraben]

well we run Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays 19:30 to midnight gmt if its of any benefit to u

He and we dont run on mondays and fridays.. No wonder its so rare we come across you. Give server with action almost 24/7.

 

[xxManiacxx]

Eclipse never been inactive since they started, get your facts right n00blar, so go cry somewhere else oke, bye.

And Baf gave up quite fast when PE and Eclipse was active end of OF and begining of NF, quiters

And yes i think those n00blar unskilled mid and alb grps leaving prydwen couse they cant compate, and yes its boring to get killed over and over by eclipse grp, and not getting any rp.

So easy solution go avalon/hib and pwnz0r afk'ers and unskilled zergs, you couldnt pwn on prydwen so you take easy way out from here hahahhaha

hmm thats why emain odins and hadrian were empty all the time and everyone complaining about mids owning RvR?

And our grp (yes the BaF group) left because of ppl starting to play WoW and we didnt enjoy meeting maybe 1-2fg in 4 hours game time.

So maybe get your facts straight first. I am not whining/quitting/crying etc. I see more hibs crying then anyone else atm.

 

[Yma]

And ... for most of the low-middle, unexperienced RR groups that try to start, eclipse or GA groups equal to 'nothing to fight', basically. I don't remember any equivalent level hib group roaming lately - I may be wrong - and I suppose alb groups have the same feeling ...

 

[Eroda]

Jupiter:
You mention alot of of hib guild groups, but they cant really have been out when we were cause we have very rarely seen more than 1-2 hib groups out with one being Eclipse Alliance group. Sunday there was quite some hib activity in odins and that was good and all. Just that its such a rare sight.. Perhaps they are beginning to run more now, but what about albs then? They dont even move out much in zergs anymore..

Alot of albs i know are concentrating on alts while the server is quiet, virtually every artifact is up so nice and easy to kitted out. I'd expect things to improve lots after catacombs (new classes always attract people and the fact WoW will have lost its freshness by then), just gotta expect things to be a bit crap rvr-wise until then.

 

[Septina]

Eclipse never been inactive since they started, get your facts right n00blar, so go cry somewhere else oke, bye.

And Baf gave up quite fast when PE and Eclipse was active end of OF and begining of NF, quiters

And yes i think those n00blar unskilled mid and alb grps leaving prydwen couse they cant compate, and yes its boring to get killed over and over by eclipse grp, and not getting any rp.

So easy solution go avalon/hib and pwnz0r afk'ers and unskilled zergs, you couldnt pwn on prydwen so you take easy way out from here hahahhaha

And the immature person of the year award goes to....
Just exactly who are you to call ppl 'n00blars' for switching from a dead server to a server that actually has action?
Sure, pryd might have 2 - 3 hib gg's out running <shock horror> if you didnt know... NF is quite massive and 2 - 3 enemy groups out wont lead to even close of as much action as there is on avalon.

And if i may ask, do you even play avalon? Or are you just guessing about the resistance there?
There are no.. i repeat NO random groups running around at all.. the fg's you will fight on avalon are 99% rr8 - 11 guild and setgroups which all give a hell of a fight
All the 'afk'ers and unskilled zergs' are parkes 24/7 at keeps in atleast 5fg+.
Which i'm afraid to say aint very farmable.

Now, i'm not saying the high rr groups on pryd dont give a good fight but.. on avalon there's much more enemies and no running around for 30+ mins between each fight

Feel free to keep paying your subs and play on a dead server if you feel like it.
Ppl pay their own subs and play the game where and how they like it.

 

[Chronictank]

they will be back
all you will find on excaliber is zergs with rr8+ fg's inside giving you little or no chance of winning regardless of how good you play (seeing as you will be low rr).
Grass isnt greener on the other side, it is just the oposite extreme to pry

 

[Bubble]

they will be back
all you will find on excaliber is zergs with rr8+ fg's inside giving you little or no chance of winning regardless of how good you play (seeing as you will be low rr).
Grass isnt greener on the other side, it is just the oposite extreme to pry

I don't think your find people are going to excal

 

[Gahn]

Only Wednesdays seems to coincide then; we run Tuesday to Thursday and then Saturday and Sunday, 20 CET to 00 CET.

EDIT: I'm referring to tribute, not you, Jupiter.

WTF change days lololol

 

[Gamah]

Many are leaving, sad to say I am one of them for now..gonna watch prydwen closely..but latley the action has been bled bridge, and you cant fight at BB without adds, so I find myself in a losing battle and looking to ze germans for something fresh..made my bard and ani so away we go hopefully joined by the rest of KF soon.

 

[tribute]

hmm thats why emain odins and hadrian were empty all the time and everyone complaining about mids owning RvR?

eclipse never complaining about mids owning prydwen

So maybe get your facts straight first. I am not whining/quitting/crying etc. I see more hibs crying then anyone else atm.

you said: thing is most mid groups left/rerolled before the hibs started to get out.

see you crying :kissit:

 

[Kraben]

WTF change days lololol

Uhm we cant? Due to whatever reasons - it really doesnt either matter or concern you

 

[Majsan]

Mid/alb gg's are rerolling in high population server's for what exact reason?

a) to farm the zerg?
b) to run away from the hibs (cant compete etc)
c) underpopulation bonuses
d) fotm server/realm etc etc

People who run in gg's always want to fight fg gg's. Now all the alb/mid gg's are leaving prydwen cause of what exactly??? There are 3-4 hib/pry gg's running primetime atm plus 2-3 fg starting out.... just cant understand the logic behind it.... prydwen will soon be the solo/stealther server

Just seems a bit silly, the layout/population of prydwen atm is suited to fg action yet u all run awayyyyyyyyyyyyy and btw havent seen awarkle about for a few weeks so its not his fault

Much of what been said, but also i believe that people wanna get something out of the time they spend online, not just run around watch the surroundings, they are not that great in daoc

 

[Gahn]

Uhm we cant? Due to whatever reasons - it really doesnt either matter or concern you

Was joking lad, ofc u didn't get it ... but that either doesn't matter nor concern me, it's all your problem ^^

 

[xxManiacxx]

eclipse never complaining about mids owning prydwen

you said: thing is most mid groups left/rerolled before the hibs started to get out.

see you crying :kissit:

Nope that is stating a fact. Almost never saw Eclipse out mon,tue,thur/week we were out.

Sad that you dont have more brain to see a difference between stating facts and crying. Or are u just pretending to be 1337?

 

[Shanaia]

Alot of albs i know are concentrating on alts while the server is quiet, virtually every artifact is up so nice and easy to kitted out. I'd expect things to improve lots after catacombs (new classes always attract people and the fact WoW will have lost its freshness by then), just gotta expect things to be a bit crap rvr-wise until then.

About frigging time someone said that.

Right on Eroda

 

[Oldbone|Ramble]

And the immature person of the year award goes to.....

me! mee!

And keep Eclipse out of this bs xE

 

[Kraben]

Was joking lad, ofc u didn't get it ... but that either doesn't matter nor concern me, it's all your problem ^^

Ah, you included the "" so it was a joke, stupid me.. But oh, so did I so perhaps I was joking as well?

:wub:

 

[Oldbone|Ramble]

And dont forgett Liverpool vs Leverkusen, starts 7:45