Can somebody explain the logic of rerolling on another server?

[Jupiter]

Mid/alb gg's are rerolling in high population server's for what exact reason?

a) to farm the zerg?
b) to run away from the hibs (cant compete etc)
c) underpopulation bonuses
d) fotm server/realm etc etc

People who run in gg's always want to fight fg gg's. Now all the alb/mid gg's are leaving prydwen cause of what exactly??? There are 3-4 hib/pry gg's running primetime atm plus 2-3 fg starting out.... just cant understand the logic behind it.... prydwen will soon be the solo/stealther server

Just seems a bit silly, the layout/population of prydwen atm is suited to fg action yet u all run awayyyyyyyyyyyyy and btw havent seen awarkle about for a few weeks so its not his fault

 

[Belgerath]

Warky is playing with me and my GG in Mid excal doing ml raids and stuff though im sure he is still playing hibbie just not as much atm

 

[Arethir]

Well, we are still going to run a couple gg's on pryd even though most moved. And see how pryd goes.

 

[Yma]

1 fg of rr4-5 mids roams the frontier hoping for some good fights.

2 fgs "not sticking" of rr9-10 hibs steamroll them in the time it takes for them to shout INC! to stop and cast cc.

1 fg of rr4-5 mids wonders about the humor behind welfare bonuses, and then logs their stealthers at Brynja or reroll to hib/somewhere else where they can enjoy rp bonuses, lovely classes and hot female elves after Catacombs. Funny how they suddenly transform from the 'apathic mids that don't fight' to 'cooperative skilled realm' just by rerolling ! It must be the grass and all the green, I tell you !

 

[Maeloch]

welfare bonuses

You've made at least 2 posts this week without mentioning the evul hib welfare bonuses. I wondered how long the run was gonna last .

Mael, 50th ment.

 

[Zebolt]

I have to say A. How fun is it to run around on prydwen fighting one decent fight in a night and maybe get 15k rp after a 5 hours run. Imo that is no fun at all and if I can start on a server I can kill a lot of enemies, play with a bounch of new found friends and have fun again why not move to another server? ^^

 

[Azathrim]

There are two reasons Jupiter: The Challenge and Population

The Challenge
Personally I have played Mid/Pry my entire time in Camelot. It sounds like a fun challenge learning a new realm and new classes. Just imagine being able to shroom down those ML encounters? See how fast we can level, get ML's done, and so on.

Population
Prydwen doesn't offer much action at the moment. As a mid group, we only face Eclipse alliance group at the moment. Possible there is a few start-ups, but we haven't seen them much. If Eclipse doesn't run, we can have nights without meeting any fg's - even the zergs seems rare these days. Killing the few solo'ers and small pug's an entire evening, going 20+ minutes without seeing -anyone- is frustrating at best.


Now remember, we are not deleting our characters on Prydwen. We use the downtime on Prydwen to try something else. Although Clustering come 1.74 seems to not be implemented on Prydwen/Excalibur, things might change there. GoA might fix their issues with Clustering and do it anyways - who knows? It's still 3+ months off though, giving plenty time to try something new.

Some have gone WoW in the downtime. We try Avalon instead. Come Catacombs and a month+ later 1.74 and clustering and things change.

 

[Dorin]

couse low population, dead, 0 action servers sucks?

 

[Yma]

You've made at least 2 posts this week without mentioning the evul hib welfare bonuses. I wondered how long the run was gonna last .

But hibs ARE evul. I know by experience, by being one of your most faithful RP provider ... I think that's how redcaps feel when they face supp sms+aoe stun ...

See, the irony of the situation is that those bonuses are the first topic in every /g chat after your group clean the field from all those little albs and mids, like last weekend during a keep siege in alb ... have some nice fight with albs, endure RR15 hibs wiping them, comment about welfare comics, hope for albs to be back, rejoice as they're back, repeat. We stopped considering them (the bonuses, not the albs or the hibs) seriously since a long time, it's part of our gaming life. Life as a midgardian redcap, I mean, hence Jupiters questions' answers.

And I blame you and your realm: because you convinced us it's sooo much better being a hib ! Down with Jordheim !

 

[Eroda]

Theres not enough people on pryd, people leaving just makes it worse though. Kind of has a knock on effect ie. a group leaves for another server, less people to fight, another group of people leave cos of less people to fight etc etc until the server has no serious rvr groups left.

Whatever people will think is enjoyable though, if that means another server then fair enough, it is a game after all. No point playing if its not fun.

With regards to the current rvr situation, seems about 80% of mid/albs experienced rvr players have gone elsewhere whereas as alot of hibs still play. Just the way it is atm, any random group (even if its balanced) is obviously not going to have much fun if they constantly run into higher rr, better organised guild groups so they just decide to do something else.

 

[Jupiter]

Theres not enough people on pryd, people leaving just makes it worse though. Kind of has a knock on effect ie. a group leaves for another server, less people to fight, another group of people leave cos of less people to fight etc etc until the server has no serious rvr groups left.

Whatever people will think is enjoyable though, if that means another server then fair enough, it is a game after all. No point playing if its not fun.

With regards to the current rvr situation, seems about 80% of mid/albs experienced rvr players have gone elsewhere whereas as alot of hibs still play. Just the way it is atm, any random group (even if its balanced) is obviously not going to have much fun if they constantly run into higher rr, better organised guild groups so they just decide to do something else.

which sorta answers my 1st question. Ya see i always believed fg guild groups always wanted to fight other fg guild groups and hence their existance. Now prydwen always had 2-3 sometimes 4 good fg guild groups in each realm that fought each other regularly.

Now we have 2-3 good fg guild groups in hib and all other fg guild groups in other realms are moving elsewhere because they cant get a decent fight? Log on primetime and u will 2-3 fg gg running in hib and what else....

This also has a larger knock on effect, if the fg gg's are fighting each other then the lower rr players/groups can happily co-exist. Atm this isnt the case and people are fighting over scraps, seems hypocritical to me. Maybe Zebolt hinted at it.....

So, no, hibs aint killing the server/responsible for whats goin wrong atm, but hey u pay/u play, fotm 4twn

 

[MaditioN]

someone is crying irl because prydwen is going down

 

[Jupiter]

someone is crying irl because prydwen is going down

naah not really tbh, if prydwen goes down so b it, but i aint rerolling and doing that ml/toa shit ever again, so yeah another chapter will close.... maybe

or maybe i could find something else to do/bug for 4-5 nites a week.. somebody mentioned a thing called wimen, might check it out tbh

 

[xxManiacxx]

thing is most mid groups left/rerolled before the hibs started to get out.

BO/Mael/BaF were long gone before we even started seeing groups out in RvR.

And RvR is so up and down that ppl chose to reroll to get a more steady flow of RvR. I can run 5 hours one night and get maybe 3 fg fights and next evening I can get 10+.

 

[Ilum]

Mid/alb gg's are rerolling in high population server's for what exact reason?

a) to farm the zerg?
b) to run away from the hibs (cant compete etc)
c) underpopulation bonuses
d) fotm server/realm etc etc

People who run in gg's always want to fight fg gg's. Now all the alb/mid gg's are leaving prydwen cause of what exactly??? There are 3-4 hib/pry gg's running primetime atm plus 2-3 fg starting out.... just cant understand the logic behind it.... prydwen will soon be the solo/stealther server

Just seems a bit silly, the layout/population of prydwen atm is suited to fg action yet u all run awayyyyyyyyyyyyy and btw havent seen awarkle about for a few weeks so its not his fault

I rerolled for better RvR and I got it. Many times I roamed empty Emain Macha before I left. There was still FGs out, but when they didnt care shit about adding, and ruined whatever action there was, it wasn't any fun either. Clearly current hibs doesnt give a shit about this either, so what does it help that you have 3-4 gg's out when you'll fight 2 at once?

Prydwen wasn't always bad, just had it's ups and downs. You could get a great fight every now and then. Guild groups can offer good fights, but they can also kill RvR through domination. That's happened all the time on Prydwen - it's the natural flow of the server. It's always had its periods of life until someone started kicking too much ass, through good play, overpoweredness, or outnumbering, and noone bothered fight them.

But if you play this game for RvR, rerolling to a high pop server is definitively worth it. Cause those servers have enough people to not let a couple of guild groups control RvR.

 

[Minau]

i would rather cut my own fot of then play on prydwen.. is ze dead server.

 

[Ucallme]

i would rather cut my own fot of then play on prydwen.. is ze dead server.

may i ask whats a 'fot'?

Amphrax
Ucallme

 

[Killerbee]

may i ask whats a 'fot'?

Amphrax
Ucallme

Something what Minau happily would cut down!

 

[Scunner]

We never had a problem competing with our guild groups and thats certainly not why we moved. Prydwen can be great on its night but problem is it doesnt have its night that often and you have to look quite hard to find fights. Some nights we met both mid and hib groups and other nights there was nothing until late at night which just is not practical if you have a job.

Most of our guild decided to move for a break, something new and to not have to look for a fight prime time. I absolutely love my alb/pryd chars and im sure I wont totally leave despite playing one xcal now. But even our guild is fairly thin spread now due to other games such as WoW and real life so running a regular group on alb/pryd filling extra spots with randoms becomes harder and harder as the population dwindles.

There is still keep/tower action etc but again its very difficult to get into that just as a fg from your realm with only the odd solo or duo support.

 

[Minau]

Something what Minau happily would cut down!

exactly

 

[Wholdar]

someone is crying irl because prydwen is going down

Yeah, I´m quite sad about it really, and I hope that it will change to the better. And I´m not so sure it´s something to be ashamed about either.

/j

 

[Jupiter]

but doesnt high population servers = more zergs, more adding, more lag, more encounter camping, more whineeeee, ml's etc etc.... swings and roundabouts i suppose...... have fun

 

[Yma]

Now, to add to the 'why the mid/alb groups exodus' theme, I took the time to check how much GoA screwed it ...

Avalon Hibernia: 2/114%/10%, 2200 actives, 30M lwrp
Prydwen Midgard: 7/92%/0%, 1300 actives, 9M lwrp

In all sincerity ... how many chances do you give to people from other realms to roll a mid in Prydwen ? How many of those players would choose a realm/server where you are considered overpopulated even when you have a fraction of the normal numbers, have low rvr activity and lack any kind of pve shortcut like pets but still get a smaller xp bonus ?

I agree: hibs aren't to blame because of the current situation. Blame Mythic for the NF fiasco, blame GoA for not learning from the past. Surely, now that the server is nearly dead I expect big bonuses thrown at us in haste, but I fear it will be too late, if not too little.

QED.

 

[Aeris]

HIBS KILLED TEH PRYDWEN!!!!!

tis true

 

[Bubble]

About the same chances as Alb prydwen and Hib prydwen

 

[Eroda]

Now, to add to the 'why the mid/alb groups exodus' theme, I took the time to check how much GoA screwed it ...

Avalon Hibernia: 2/114%/10%, 2200 actives, 30M lwrp
Prydwen Midgard: 7/92%/0%, 1300 actives, 9M lwrp

In all sincerity ... how many chances do you give to people from other realms to roll a mid in Prydwen ? How many of those players would choose a realm/server where you are considered overpopulated even when you have a fraction of the normal numbers, have low rvr activity and lack any kind of pve shortcut like pets but still get a smaller xp bonus ?

I agree: hibs aren't to blame because of the current situation. Blame Mythic for the NF fiasco, blame GoA for not learning from the past. Surely, now that the server is nearly dead I expect big bonuses thrown at us in haste, but I fear it will be too late, if not too little.

QED.

Entire server should be getting underpopulated bonuses imo cos who would want to roll hib as it is when theres clearly nothing to kill. Still having the lowest population, Hibernia should get the best bonuses but there should be incentives for people joining the server in general over others right now.

As a new player i would see no reason at all to roll on prydwen in its current state. If i wanted an english server, id choose excal and even that isn't looking too healthy recently.

 

[Jupiter]

Now, to add to the 'why the mid/alb groups exodus' theme, I took the time to check how much GoA screwed it ...

Avalon Hibernia: 2/114%/10%, 2200 actives, 30M lwrp
Prydwen Midgard: 7/92%/0%, 1300 actives, 9M lwrp

In all sincerity ... how many chances do you give to people from other realms to roll a mid in Prydwen ? How many of those players would choose a realm/server where you are considered overpopulated even when you have a fraction of the normal numbers, have low rvr activity and lack any kind of pve shortcut like pets but still get a smaller xp bonus ?


QED.

bah, ur like a badly skipping record tbh, how exactly does population bonuses affect whether u lot rvr or not? It doesnt nerf u, it just gives the underpopulated realm more rps, less keep costs & faster pve exp, it does not give any boost to melee/power in any way so why would that cause u to stop rvr?... ffs u argueing the same thing day in day out hijacking threads... beacuse we get 10% more rps per kill than mids/albs in rvr means u wont play and is an excuse rather than a solution tbh.... i think eroda hit the nail on the head btw

 

[Azathrim]

That's conviniently forgetting the 2 days free level cycles....

 

[Gahn]

That's conviniently forgetting the 2 days free level cycles....

That help mostly the casual gamer tbh, fixed ggs who wanna reroll most likely end up using it once in a blue moon at its full potential oO

 

[Roadie]

its funney how every1 is rerolling hib.....hib pryd must be doing sumthin right xD

Who knows when ppl get tired of ze add or the easy rp's they might come back