Camouflage explained

[old.Odysseus]

About my theurg (yes, airspec, well-liked in groups):

The reason that I do not whine about my abilities, the bugged and useless pets, low mez range, duration, area etc etc, is for ONE reson only:

I had the informed choice.

The class has not changed since i started playing it, hence any defeciencies it might have can only be blamed upon myself, I could just have studied further before choosing it.
That is not the case with my scout.

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Stealth:

Get rid of it, let assassins be only stealthers, compensate scouts, minsts for it, e.g. by (for scouts) giving some quivers to select arrows, make volley and longshot viable, chainarmor, dangersense.
minsts could get more dd, longer mez.

just a silly idea, feel free to flame it, but stealth hasnt done my class anything good, might as well rid with it.

 

[-Lonewolf-]

Originally posted by old.Odysseus

Stealth:

Get rid of it, let assassins be only stealthers, compensate scouts, minsts for it, e.g. by (for scouts) giving some quivers to select arrows, make volley and longshot viable, chainarmor, dangersense.
minsts could get more dd, longer mez.

just a silly idea, feel free to flame it, but stealth hasnt done my class anything good, might as well rid with it.

Think its a great idea myself would be the perfect change

You really are being calm and sensible in this discussion Ody have to say I have the utmost respect for your views, very informative

 

[thebinarysurfer]

I have a druid and sure he's crap in rvr - cant kill shit without burning his instants even in the battlegrounds.
But he wasn't designed to be able solo but thats ok since druids are primarily designed as group characters and have plenty to offer groups - buffs/heals/instant heals/stealther chasing via pet etc.

Mythic doesn't seem to realise it but they've effectively isolated us as by making us a solo class that cant solo, and that has nowt to bring to a group.

 

[thebinarysurfer]

Viable and interesting idea m8 - sadly sod all chance of mythic doing that as we all know :/

 

[hotrat]

Seems we all agree on something at last, remove soloing from a char that is only good at playing solo, you gotta give that char some group loving skills.

Yer air theurgist > ice Theurgist, and i can't wait to respec

Only good thing about ice theurg is you don't have to take ice as high to get a good nuke (the nuke is baseline), so u can get a better pbt, but in rvr a 2 sec faster pbt is nowhere near as useful as a higher dmg nuke which is on a dmg table that most ppl don't have high resist's in (air nuke = spirit). Also ice has a useless snare nuke which i rarely use, and ae root which is only good in certain situations.
Air theurg is a pretty good caster, but compare it to a body sorc and it makes me wanna cry Comparing a ice theurg to a body sorc is even more upsetting.

Albs will certainly have a lot of gimped ae mezzer's next patch when all theurg respec to air and all mincer's get ae mezz.

 

[hotrat]

Damn lag

Double post

 

[old.Odysseus]

You really are being calm and sensible in this discussion Ody have to say I have the utmost respect for your views, very informative

I told u to flame me, not praise me, next thing u'll be calling me nice grrrrr!
(j/k)

(air nuke = spirit)

HUSH!!!! MILITARY SECRET!!!!

Air theurg is a pretty good caster, but compare it to a body sorc and it makes me wanna cry.

An air theurg normally has better nuke, a sorc can spec to the same nuke, but sacrifice the overwhelming superiority in cc and get down to level (still slightly better).
To compare a 45 air vs a 45 body, one would have to look at:

a) the mezz:
sorc has longer duration, longer range, larger aoe

b) the nuke:
spirit vs body(?) resist
spirit seems the better of the two + fast to level on undead mobs (I did 900!!!! as level 47 with crit on undead yesterday - and i still only got 2. highest nuke).

c) the bt:
10 sec pulsing vs. self-bt
no comments on this one.

d) pets
no comparison, theurg pets are a joke (ofc u dont have to go look for them and theyre neat to solo with)

With the coming cc-nerfs, i think the theurg is the one i prefer.