Calling all Mid Stealthers

[Seculzeran]

Hiya,

Heated discussion coming up guys. I'm new to the sb class and lets say my experience in emain is not going too well.

When ever I attack an alb or hib I am all of a sudden surrounded by his fellows, usualy 1-8 if lucky they don't just stand there watching, they actualy attack me and kill any chance I may have of killing an enemy, which tbh is what you would expect from there companions.

Now, lets replay that same situation from an sb's pov. I am lets say at mmg and know I have a number of fellow mid stealthers standing by me. This kinda makes me feel safe, you know the old saying "safety in numbers" and all that. I then attack an enemy, and all of a sudden, I'm alone, s**t I think, where is everyone!! Then I die, OMG i think thx a bunch guys, nothing like helping your companions in battle. The weird thing is, when my fellows know i'm dead, they attack the enemy.

I'm not being funny guys, but this is pretty fecked up and twisted. Can you imagine how this would look in an actual battle, really stupid, you will agree.

I call to you to stop behaving in this manner, and start helping your fellow midgardians. This is a realm war guys, nothing else. Start treating it as one.

Leaching huh, "it was mine", "no I saw him first", "I could of taken him no probs", etc......, guys wakeup, it's the enemy, help each other, and stop throwing your toys out the pram, really

I really look forward to your polite but interesting comments, I'm sure I'm not alone

Enjoy!!

P.S Any flaming, rude comments to any individual, and your post will be ignored.

 

[Aerendur]

There is no way to do it right though. One time I help a fellow mid and get shouted at! "I could have killed him alone"

The other time I let them fight, the mid dies and he messages "why the F* didnt you help?".

The only way to prevent not getting help is grouping up with fellow mids. That way your acting as a group and there is no reason for them not to help.

 

[Phule_Gubben]

All i can say is that some people play like that and some don't. Sure it's the piss to not get any help but then again it's your point of view that they should help not theirs. Grp up with some other stealthers if u want to feel safe as there is as you say "Strength in numbers".

 

[Aucard]

They use the word "leech" the ones who just looks on there mate killing/being killed.

I my self shoot anyone in my sight, if i feel i wont die doing it
PPl who whine about "leech" "add" "fragsteal" should go back and play CounterStrike or Super Mario Bros ( solo )

 

[nptr]

Thats why thane > stealther!

 

[Hawkwind]

Was playing Inf last night for a short while in Emain. Had a couple of nice solo fights (lost one, won one) but come prime time AMG was Alb stealth central. Was quite amusing really. Must have been 6-8 Scouts, 4 infs and 2 mincers at one point. Scouts TS'ing occasionally, any poor enemy stealthers got raped.

At one point we were informed that 8-10 mid stealthers were on way from mmg. Come gank time it was only 4. Was starting to feel quite sorry for the you guys. But then I guess it is a war and all's fair.

 

[peoth]

m8, as u said... u are at mmg and u get AN enemy... would u like to get help on 1vs1 fight? then never go solo m8, grp with a friend or sumthin. i never expect to get help on a clean 1vs1 fight, idd rather die and have a good fight than just survive knowing that i cant kill some1 solo,continue happy to amg , get zerged by 15 and whine about stealthzerg

The stupid thing is when ur surrounded by fellow mids and manage to uncover a "minstrel" who is actually solo or something. u hit him and it looks good, u got him 50% and ure still full or something, then , every1 adds like they want to help you.

When u uncover a solo guy and 3 infils pop up and pwn u, every mid in the area runs away safe. now thats lame!

idd rather not get helped at all and get my 1k rps when i can solo some1 + just die when i get zerged than just get 200rps off the one i can solo + still get zerged w/o help

so plz Seculzeran m8 when u see me fighting with 1,2,3....15 DO NOT help me ok?

if i need help, i got soloer friends who know when i need it or not, help is welcome from them, or from any1 who really intends to help and not to leech
like yesterday i was fighting a minstrel @ atk who gets 30%hp, stuns me and runs away. Warhead (skald) comes out of nowere and instead of killin him he just fz'ed him and i easily got him after that. thats help! (thnx warhead). after that he was getting his ass kicked by some1 and was runnin away, so i grappled the enemy so warhead could run away with low hp and his grpm8 warrior killed him.
i didnt WTFaePAEVERYTHINGMOVIN so i could get my 80rpsftw!

learn how to help out, and mid stealth is gonna go up. leeching and then saying: soz, thought u needed help, is stupid and is not likely that some1 will fall for it.

 

[Sanzor]

My only advice for you as sb, is to try out Odins, HW, check enemy Dodens and DF if we have it. Theres a bigger chance to find some rps here and some decent 1 on 1 fights

 

[Shafu]

As Aerendur said, there's is no way to do it right. Some people want a fair fight (number-wise), and others want to simply fight the enemy regardsless of numbers on either side. In midgard, the majority seems to want "fair" fights.

I agree though, there is nothing I hate more than when a fellow mid watches you die, and then cheers at the enemy, but to each his own.

 

[Deechio]

M8 i feel the same way as you , personally i dont give a shit if some realm mates join in on beatin up an ENEMY , but there are some real arseholes in the mid ranks , generally in the fotm rvr guilds that start some real stoopid shit if you add. I now tend to see how a fight is goin first before joining in , unless im after revenge , then i dont give a damn m i mean , after all were all in the same war , and emain aint the place to go for a 1 on 1.

 

[Chronictank]

Then I die, OMG i think thx a bunch guys, nothing like helping your companions in battle. The weird thing is, when my fellows know i'm dead, they attack the enemy.

I'm not being funny guys, but this is pretty fecked up and twisted. Can you imagine how this would look in an actual battle, really stupid, you will agree.

IF you want backup join a grp, if youre solo i would assume you wanted to play solo and would let you die every time. Its called giving the enemy a fair chance against you, may not make sence to you but some of us like fair odds. I dont expect you to understand it but thats how some of us (be it a small number) like to play.
/mil to the mids who didnt add, there are far too few of u
I have lost count of the ammount of times adds have resulted in my death, be it breaking mez, or generally doing something stupid (/wave sb dotting a rooted stealther right by me in hw).

 

[Lothandar]

Calling all cars, calling all cars!



Neeeenaaaaaw Neeeenaaaaaw

 

[Chronictank]

Calling all cars, calling all cars!



Neeeenaaaaaw Neeeenaaaaaw

On crack and having a seizure?

 

[Dathcald]

Generally, add if you like, don't add if you don't want to, but most important, ignore the whines. That's the way to play.

 

[Coldbeard]

get flamed if you help , get flamed if you dont .. best thing is to sneak away

 

[peoth]

pft, leechingrpwhores DIE!

 

[fotm]

pft, leechingrpwhores DIE!

Are you retarded or just pretending?

 

[Lothandar]

On crack and having a seizure?

Call me a policecar and I go neeeeenaaaaw neeeeenaaaaw!

 

[vintervargen]

Call the dancing patrol!

 

[Spix]

Reason I add on a fight if Im am not 100% sure there are no more infils, scouts, minstrels, rangers or nightshades around is that if "IAMubersoloshadowblade" doesnt kill that "solo" infiltrator and I get jumped by hes friends I not only have to kill the one who jump me, I will get a PA or arrow from the failed kill. So it is more like self defence by cleaning up anything I see.
And yelling leecher at milegates is like playing soccer on the street and whine about cars disturbing the game...

Emain is not a good solo place, havent been and will never be.

And dont hesitate to help me when I fight, I dont care if I get 0 rp or 1000 . Albs dont just stand there watching when I fight 1vs1 so why should mids? And I rather keep going than releasing fair or not fair fight.

 

[Vodkafairy]

strong generalizing spix, shame your post isn't entirely accurate because you died 1 v 1 and brought two mates -_-

 

[Kalba]

M8 i feel the same way as you , personally i dont give a shit if some realm mates join in on beatin up an ENEMY , but there are some real arseholes in the mid ranks , generally in the fotm rvr guilds that start some real stoopid shit if you add. I now tend to see how a fight is goin first before joining in , unless im after revenge , then i dont give a damn m i mean , after all were all in the same war , and emain aint the place to go for a 1 on 1.

As far as I see you're not quite aware of the situation.

When it comes to helping/not helping adding/not adding the thing is that a fight in which both sides are able to win is much more versatile, ie. fun. This is something you must agree on?

Winnning a good fight against such groups as Rage and DH(according to Garba we've never won *full* dem hibbies ) gives you a nice feeling of success, this feeling can easily be ruined by and adding group. And of course, the adding group also takes a portion of the well earned Rps.

This is what it's about, also it's about the e-penises about the high realm rank pricks such as me

And for the last, for heavens sake. I've heard this fotm RvR guild and rp whore thing going long, but I have never, ever in my life encountered in a decent RvR group anyone that is as RP horny as a random RvR player.

Dont give me that shit about "it's war, we're the same realm". You want Rps, that's pretty fucking ovbious, it's the same with adding when it comes to most groups:

"SEE RPS!!!"

"WHEEREREEEE??? MUSSSTSS HAVEEEE!!!!"

Show me a random RvR player that doesnt care about Rps and I show you a aeroplane without wings.

Arthur is dead.

 

[Klonk]

Well put, tbh, Kalba

 

[Spix]

strong generalizing spix, shame your post isn't entirely accurate because you died 1 v 1 and brought two mates -_-

The brought two mates thingy is, I wasnt solo to start with, my duo brother had probably died so I happened to be solo at that moment. And it had nothing to do with I got ganked 1v1 bringing friends to retaliate.


Oh and, I dont add on fights if it is not around milegates. That goes for fullgroups and solo. (it happens but not always)

 

[Imgormiel]

This whole arguement is gonna be F!cked come NF, enjoy your valor and whine for now. Let's see how things are going to change in a few weeks

 

[peoth]

Are you retarded or just pretending?

why? do u care?
nionio

 

[Shaniah]

Dont give me that shit about "it's war, we're the same realm". You want Rps, that's pretty fucking ovbious, it's the same with adding when it comes to most groups:

"SEE RPS!!!"

"WHEEREREEEE??? MUSSSTSS HAVEEEE!!!!"

Show me a random RvR player that doesnt care about Rps and I show you a aeroplane without wings.

Arthur is dead.

I'll have to say... wrong.

Sure, RPs are nice, but the main thing stealthers in favor of grouping want is to stand a chance against what might be huge alb stealth zergs... The truth is that you never know how many you have against you, and it's more often 3 than 1. The fact that the people who want to 'help' also want to BE 'helped' by their realm mates shows that the 'RP WHORE' argument does not hold any water.

Bottom line is, there are stealthers who want help and ones who do not. The ones who want help are always nice and polite, even when people 'help' and there was no need. I don't see why people in favor of 1on1 battles can't be the same way. Sure, your precious 1on1 gets screwed that one time. There will be plenty of times left, and if it just happens too often to you in Emain, accept that it's a zerger's world and go somewhere else. Or play a completely different game. For frankly, DAoC pvp has always been about army vs army.

Arthur is dead. This is an all-out war.


p.s. Kalba the next time you insult me saying I'm an RP whore you will get an honorable mention on my 'To Wedgie' list

 

[Iswind]

When i play my sb i usually add on fg fights stealther fights well anything i can to get some action..

And i especially love to add on fg fights after getting trampled by a fg or two

 

[Sanzor]

Atm im lvling my onw sb gimp to run around solo, but i wonder how long that will last :-P

 

[Kalba]

I'll have to say... wrong.

Sure, RPs are nice, but the main thing stealthers in favor of grouping want is to stand a chance against what might be huge alb stealth zergs... The truth is that you never know how many you have against you, and it's more often 3 than 1. The fact that the people who want to 'help' also want to BE 'helped' by their realm mates shows that the 'RP WHORE' argument does not hold any water.

Bottom line is, there are stealthers who want help and ones who do not. The ones who want help are always nice and polite, even when people 'help' and there was no need. I don't see why people in favor of 1on1 battles can't be the same way. Sure, your precious 1on1 gets screwed that one time. There will be plenty of times left, and if it just happens too often to you in Emain, accept that it's a zerger's world and go somewhere else. Or play a completely different game. For frankly, DAoC pvp has always been about army vs army.

Arthur is dead. This is an all-out war.


p.s. Kalba the next time you insult me saying I'm an RP whore you will get an honorable mention on my 'To Wedgie' list

Eline, honey you got the point wrong, I wasnt actually taking that much of a subject towards stealth warfare which I've found boring countless of times. But I started a totally different subject.

I just got home from the bar and I cant think quite well right now, I'll (maybe) check the thread tomorrow.


Ps. I'm drunk and I got nothing exept friendship towards the girl I brought with me

PPS. I belive that there would be a lot less adds if PvP wouldnt be rewarding