bugged evade style? o_0

[Zaphira]

This night i was running around in thidranki as usual..
And I noticed that i was stunned alot more then i should be..
However when i looked at the event log i noticed that at the times where i thought i was stunned in some way, was the moment where i should have preformed Harmsting the evade style in the Critical-Strike specline.
But instead of preforming it i just became paralyzed for one round.
So instead of evasion becoming benifitial for me it became a benefit for my opponent.

Take a look at the sections i marked with green squares.
First I evade and then I do nothing, and it doesn't say im paralyzed or anything.

Have any one of you ever experienced the same?

 

[Dorny]

i think its because he hits with his offhand.. u have to evade both or the last hit i think..

 

[Dorny]

Ups.. its a scout... its because u have to evade the hit just before u can use your style.. its the same both times u marked up.. he hits u after u evaded..

 

[Zaphira]

yes he gets to hit me again because i cant do anything after i have evaded i just stand there and look at him until next round that's why it looks like he hist me again directly afterwards..
This didn't just happed with this guy, it happens with everyone i evade.
So you see, After i have evaded i should hit them with harmsting, but instead i just stand there doing nothing but looking at my opponent until he hits me again.

 

[Dorny]

hmmm.. weird.. don't know whats wring then

 

[tookha]

Timestams shows in your log if you had it activated. When checking those, you could see your swingtime and such. Might help.

 

[Dracus]

Reationaries are ONLY on main hand attacks ie. first hit in a quad from savage or main hand from a dual wielder. This on the other hand also means if he hits u with main and u evade and his off hand hits then ur evade style still fires...in these cases it lookes he gets another hit in before ur style goes off...if thats not the case then i have no f*cking idea whats wrong

/Dracus

 

[Thegreatest]

It's easy, he's hitting you faster than you hit him...So his swing speed is faster, which can mean that he's either buffed with a dex/qui buff and you not or he's got capped quickness on his template and you haven't or he's using faster weapon and you using slower...Thats the reason he's hitting you twice sometimes before you hit him once.

 

[Zaphira]

didn't log it.. im gonna check if it acts the same way today and record and log it.
The strange thing is that as long as i dont evade i tend to hit him at the same speed as he hits me as you allso can see in the screenshot.
Cuz i think that if he manages to hit me twice in a row before i hit him every time i eveade, he should be able to do the same when i dont evade.
I wasn't buffed at the time and i dont have capped qui, so it might be the cause, but im gonna investigate it further if it's the same today.. im gonna log on right now and check.

 

[Thegreatest]

Thats just pure by accidence, I mean if his weapon speed is swinging at 2.4 speed and yours at 3.0, it will quite be like you both will swing 1x in the same round, but he will swing 1x more every 4 rounds (3.0-2.4=0.6, 2.4/0.6=4)

So this time it went like this, it's just pure chance...he could also be swinging that extra round just after he hit you, so nothing to do with evade...don't worry

maybe this will be more clear:

time:   player that swings:
0         scout
0         you
2.4      scout
3         you
4.8      scout
6         you
7.2      scout
9         you
9.6      scout
12       you
12        scout
14.4     scout
15       you
16.8     scout
18        you
19.2     scout
21        you
21.6     scout
24        you
24        scout
26.4     scout
27        you

as you can see the scout will swing 1x extra every 4th round, assuming scouts weapon speed is 2.4 and yours is 3.0 (I'm not counting any buffs or +quick here).

So the fact that you evaded the scouts swing just before he swings 1x extra is just by pure accidence

 

[Zaphira]

that seems to be a quite reasonable explanation.
nothing is certain and as you say it might be just a coincidence but that kinda sorted it out quite far..
Evade worked fine tonight tho.
The strange thing about it all is that it happened so many times during that evening, too bad i didn't take screenshots or logg any other times but the one stated above.
I sure got confused after not beeing able to use the evade style for about 1 hour until i noticed the hole thing, got mad and logged
If it ever happens again i will sure start investigating harder.
Thanks for all replys.
And a special thanks to Thegreatest, your post was most helpful.

PS. i use 4.0 speed weapons both main and offhand i lack 19qui from cap and i have 4% melee haste.

 

[Thegreatest]

sure no problem zaphira

the game mechanics are sometimes very screwy, it happened to me quite often that when I was fighting a same level mob I would once block 6x in a row and finish the fight with almost full hp and the other fight I would miss 6x in a row and almost get my ass handed on plate...

sometimes it's like playing roulette in a casino, really

 

[Vodkafairy]

and i have 4% melee haste.

hahahahaha

 

[Brend]

PS. i use 4.0 speed weapons both main and offhand i lack 19qui from cap and i have 4% melee haste.

4.0 speed sword and 5* dmg main hand that sucks

 

[Helme]

4.0 speed sword and 5* dmg main hand that sucks

I do the same depending on targets with my SB using 4.0 speed 99qua crafted weapons, while infiltrators returns it with 120 mainhand. Specc AF is retarded so is relics on a already superior class.

 

[Haton]

I do the same depending on targets with my SB using 4.0 speed 99qua crafted weapons, while infiltrators returns it with 120 mainhand. Specc AF is retarded so is relics on a already superior class.

sbs and infils are balanced m8, just ask smilewhenyousaythat.

 

[Brend]

I do the same depending on targets with my SB using 4.0 speed 99qua crafted weapons, while infiltrators returns it with 120 mainhand. Specc AF is retarded so is relics on a already superior class.

thats what i meen ..i got a blades shade hits for around 100 main hand as a class with 40 starting str n the of hand hits harder than his aswell when it swings ....does the diference in dmg get worse at higher lvls or is it better matched ?

 

[Helme]

I think a thing were forgetting is that most SB's use the LA selfhaste which might lower the damage not sure thought, since luri's swing quite fast aswell. I run a test and see how big the difference is by using a cleaver in left hand if I can get my hands on one.

Also leftaxe seems to be a all or nothing thing for damage, while dualwield/celticdual can stay at a relative low level and still do good damage.

 

[Zaphira]

4.0 speed sword and 5* dmg main hand that sucks

unbuffed on buffed scout.

 

[Brend]

unbuffed on buffed scout.

ahhh makes more sense now ...still sucks though :/