Buffbot bollocks

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nomed

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I have 1 suggestion to make if GOA ever read these forums.

I have nothing personal against ppl who create clerics as buffbots. But if ppl are going to spec a clerics enhance spec higher than rejuve then I really do think Mythic/Goa should nerf the healing power of the buffbot and give us proper healing clerics a chance to get groups.
 
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thorwyntf

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and give us proper healing clerics a chance to get groups.

yeah.. looking at the tons of people who´re standing around looking stupid and all those "any healer lfg???" and "group lf Cleric plz plz plz plz" yells in AC and Emain, it must be hell to find a group as a Cleric these days.
 
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Coim-

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Originally posted by thorwyntf
yeah.. looking at the tons of people who´re standing around looking stupid and all those "any healer lfg???" and "group lf Cleric plz plz plz plz" yells in AC and Emain, it must be hell to find a group as a Cleric these days.
agree, you have one of the best grp classes in the game
 
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loxleyhood

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Being someone who leveled a scout this thread makes me feel ill. :p
 
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Flimgoblin

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they already have nerfed their healing power

*mumbles something about 1 rejuv buffbots*
 
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Sibanac

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Originally posted by nomed
I have 1 suggestion to make if GOA ever read these forums.

I have nothing personal against ppl who create clerics as buffbots. But if ppl are going to spec a clerics enhance spec higher than rejuve then I really do think Mythic/Goa should nerf the healing power of the buffbot and give us proper healing clerics a chance to get groups.

1) that would be Mythic, not GOA

2) WTF are you on abaout, there are 3 classes that never have to look for groups : cleric, ice wizzy, paladin.
If you have a hard time finding groups with a rejuv cleric then either you are looking in the wrong place or you suck
 
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Ekydus

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Firstly; who cares if it is Mythic or GOA here FFS... we are looking at the point made not striking the poster down because they get one fucking name wrong! WHOO DE DOO!

Next, I like your "theory" that Paladins never have to look for a group. I suppose everywhere they go a group is waiting for them; correct?

No. All classes struggle and I have had my fair share of let downs and standing at ATK waiting for a group to invite me while I spam "/y 50 Paladin + FH LFG!" FH usually helps... othertimes it doesn't. You could put this down to guild groups perhaps. Oh and it can be hard getting a group as a Cleric. If you have a habit of not healing, of going AFK and such; word will spread. That will be your problem. You shouldn't have problems if you are a real Cleric and not a Buff Bot. Buff Bots don't get groups anyway... TBH thinking about it your comment is invalid and nothing more then another whine at Buff Bot owners. Come on a Buff Bot that is AFK 99% of it's /play time is NOT going to effect you getting a group.
 
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Cap'n Sissyfoo

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Maybe he is trying to say that we should have another healer class (not friar) that we can rely on because 98% of all clerics are now designated buffbots.

That would be a more logical thing to say anyways. :p
 
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Ekydus

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Let's just give everyone permenant self buffs FFS.
 
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Keogh

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God if it's not Necro's that are getting shit then it's Buffbots. Since I have both I must be one of the most hated characters on the fucking server :D
 
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adari

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Originally posted by nomed
I have 1 suggestion to make if GOA ever read these forums.

I have nothing personal against ppl who create clerics as buffbots. But if ppl are going to spec a clerics enhance spec higher than rejuve then I really do think Mythic/Goa should nerf the healing power of the buffbot and give us proper healing clerics a chance to get groups.

you make me sick
 
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Pin

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First thread I've read this morning. And I have to say it's brightened me up no end. Thanks Nomed.
 
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xenny

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hehe does this person even play daoc? :p
since wen do ppl take buffbots in2 grps over real clerics? ;)
let me see which wud i rather have, a char that can heal me or a char that is alt+tabbed and only has 1 in rejuv ne way? :s
 
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Kagato.

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What are you on about, an enhance spec cleric can't heal for shit and gets huge variances in each cast. Rej spec clerics have the best heals in the game and a full rej spec can easily heal over 1 k in a single heal without a crit heal, so what more do you want?
 
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acei

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I'm a cleric and get a group easily in Emain and whenever i go hunting (rarely go AC as i had enough of that from 40-50)

Buffbots are erm, well they're pains, they usually just buffbots for the soloing classes i.e. infil, scout, mincer.... but on occassions i've known other classes to use them, it doesn't annoy me, they still need a rejuv cleric :)
 
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Hit ^_^

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Originally posted by nomed
I have 1 suggestion to make if GOA ever read these forums.

I have nothing personal against ppl who create clerics as buffbots. But if ppl are going to spec a clerics enhance spec higher than rejuve then I really do think Mythic/Goa should nerf the healing power of the buffbot and give us proper healing clerics a chance to get groups.

i have never seen a clerics having a problem getting a group.

clerics who are 100%buffbots heal like crap (high power usage high. less hp output) and its not like they are ever lfg.
buffbots are in generall used to buff solo pl or enhance other groups a bit but they Allways need a reju cleric or atleast a "hybrid one" or maybe even 2 to be optimal.
my clerics has currently 40enha 35reju wich is good both fur buffing and healing but it lacs the 39reju spread heal wich is realy nice and i think most groups takes a cleric anyday whit that over a enha one(if they are about the same rrr and have about the same "skill")
 
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nomed

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Originally posted by xenny
hehe does this person even play daoc? :p
since wen do ppl take buffbots in2 grps over real clerics? ;)
let me see which wud i rather have, a char that can heal me or a char that is alt+tabbed and only has 1 in rejuv ne way? :s

tell you what then.....
start a cleric and without the aid of a high lvl alt try and get groups in AC at lvl40/41......
I'm siting around on my arse by the entrance for 4 hours at a time and when i finnaly get into a group its breaking up after 30 mins cause the pallies keep quiting.
 
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thorwyntf

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But that´s not because you´re a Cleric. I`m sure that other classes are waiting much longer for a spot in a group than you are. And when a group is falling apart because the Pallies are leaving, then that´s because people seem to be unable to cope with a group setup other than the (in their opinion) uber-optimal one these days.
I remember killing trees with 3 Infils and me as a Pallie, Friar as healer and some random other people and guess waht... it worked! I think you´re focusing on the wrong problem. People just can´t (or don´t want to) play with a "suboptimal" group anymore because they´re too lazy to work for their money, which is quite amazing, because levelling at 40+ has become SO much easier since SI.
 
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Pin

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Try turning your lfg flag on... But anyway, level 40 is the very bottom end for any char/class in AC, so you're bound to be picked later if there's a level 45 cleric there.

But I really don't think you've ever been left standing there while someone's buffbot was chosen to heal a group :p
 
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old.Kian

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Hmmm - I've been in plenty of AC groups recently with level 40 clerics, level 39 clerics, even level 38 clerics. The 'level 40+' rule will get relaxed quite readily for a healing class (not for friars in my experience - these days everyone expects friars to be ubah battlefriars with 7 in rejuve, if that). And given how many groups I've had where my friar has ended up as main healer with his massive 25 rejuve, I don't think it's because of a glut of clerics.

Put your LFG flag on, check for groups and PM the group leaders (hint: if you're level 40, try the group leaders who aren't 45+, there's a real level apartheid system in AC :) and I'd be very surprised if you don't get a group - even if they have 1 cleric, most groups will take a second unless they desparately need some other vital role filled with their one free spot. If you just sit there pouting and wondering why groups aren't busy looking for you, you may need an attitude adjustment :)
 
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briton_knight

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TBH m8 u just gotta ask the solo paladins/armsmen at the entrance even if theyre plvling others ull still get nice xp coz they can take harder mobs with u around and often theyll tend to start a larger grp with u there, as Kian will tell u this does happen coz i grp'd with him the other day, if im ever around gimme a shout ill be happy to grp with ya just so long as u dont start any more topics like this coz they just get in the way of important topics
 
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Repent Reloaded

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I have 1 suggestion to make if GOA ever read these forums.

I have nothing personal against ppl who create clerics as buffbots. But if ppl are going to spec a clerics enhance spec higher than rejuve then I really do think Mythic/Goa should nerf the healing power of the buffbot and give us proper healing clerics a chance to get groups.

lmao, where to start ?!

k, chuck ur fucking one minded selfish thoughts out the way, just becoz u'd like clerics to be able to heal mor....argh fuck it, cant be arsed.
 
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WardyWonderland

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When im starting a grp wth my sorc or pally, i spend more time spaming /y Grp lf Cleric then anuthing else. The 40+ clerics in my grp are always saying that the get invites all the time when in AC. The other solution if you cannot find a grp, start your own!
 
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Powahhh

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Originally posted by nomed
I have 1 suggestion to make if GOA ever read these forums.

I have nothing personal against ppl who create clerics as buffbots. But if ppl are going to spec a clerics enhance spec higher than rejuve then I really do think Mythic/Goa should nerf the healing power of the buffbot and give us proper healing clerics a chance to get groups.

why don't you go lvl a reju cleric by yourself ?
the only thing you know is to judge or whine on others?
i think i am gonna ....... :puke:
 
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DeaD GuRu

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Re: Re: Buffbot bollocks

we need more buffbots....

maybee most of you would stay away from the RP farming in zerg and start playing like it is tended to be...

it is not because some class like a healer exist they have to be that way..as in heal a full group of slamm horny fighters in zergs..

if there should be a paladin, chant specced (and one that know what chants to twist in what encounter) and you would have a full enhance cleric casting his resists and heal proc, maybee even a friar with some resist buffs, and a sorc that has the mezz reists...

that group would first of all be pretty resistant to most of the things you will encounter, getting hit is part of it, just making sure that they don't hit you that hard is the only thing that counts and hitting faster then the adversary.... so full enhance buffs could fine tune every character in that group to full stats along with the friar. Even a buffspecced healer can heal, and you have a friar to back that up.. ok, most say it is not verry reliable, but it does heal and you get health...

first off all make sure you know what to do with your own character and don't put the responsability with the healers, so your lack of interest in making sure you can provide your own means of survival out there..... potions etc..


cheerz :)
 
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old.Kian

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Hmmm- Dead GuRu-ese only seems to bear a passing resemblance to the english language... but are you saying with a buffbot and resists heals are irrelevant? That a cleric/friar with very little rejuve can keep up?

Sorry - I've been playing a tank in RvR for quite a while :) You are getting hit for truckloads every few seconds... individual heals that vary between 30 and 290 points each time really don't cut it. Tanks are kept standing by large spec heals (400+ GUARANTEED each cast) and instas... anything else is likely to be too little, too late. Buffs are like gravy, they're nice but they do NOT make you invincible. This is even more imporatant in a fight between two high-quality single FGs than it is in zerging (where let's face it, either you're on the winning side or all the heals in the realms won't save you if you're on the shitty end of the stick).

A top-notch regrowth druid is a real asset to a combat team - I can only assume the same goes for a rejuve cleric :) The buffbots you can (at least for now) safely leave ungrouped and facing a wall in ATK. And I freely submit that a team of 7 tanks/casters with a solid healer will wipe the floor with 8 fucktards with buffs and no healing :)
 

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