BSc VS BEng degrees

[Jeros]

I really not sure what kind of degree to go for, BSc or BEng

Im going to be doing computer science with the goal of being a software engineer. im guessing BSc would be better, as im guessing BEng is more practical than theory, and its theory i think would be better. My ex was doing BSc in Chemistry, that had comp sci modules and she was set tons of programming practical work (you have to ask what relevance did that have to her chem degree tho?)

Wow im really sucking you all dry for advice like some kind of drunk party advice slut lately

 

[Jeros]

and there is some kind of strange irony with the amount of unis who have computer science pages that dont actully work

 

[- English -]

Hi Jeros,

Its my 7th week or so now at Uni doing BSc Computer Science. Our modules this first semester are, Maths and Statistics, Hardware Software Systems and Networks, Introduction to Software Development and I got to chose Web Design as my 4th option.

So far the maths is boring, We are doing Java atm is ISD which is just always coding, and Hssn we have just done logic gates/memory and atm cpu arcetecture (sp). Web Design is just a pain in the arse... If you got any questions just ask

 

[tris-]

BSc is for science related areas while BEng is literally engineering of a physical nature (civil engineer, electronic engineering) etc

you cant chose either way. you couldnt goto the uni, ask to do a computer degree but tell them you want a bachelors in engineering.

 

[Imgormiel]

BSc is for science related areas while BEng is literally engineering of a physical nature (civil engineer, electronic engineering) etc

you cant chose either way. you couldnt goto the uni, ask to do a computer degree but tell them you want a bachelors in engineering.

BEng will guarantee a job tho, engineers are almost always never out of work

 

[tris-]

yes but what has computer science got to do with being an actual engineer (who builds buildings, or bridges, or designs materials)?

bottom line, you cant chose the type of degree you want. computers is a science area and will be a bachelors of science.

BEng will guarantee a job in an engineering position, but do you want to be an engineer or a computer scientist?

check these

University of Teesside :: Undergraduate Study :: Computing

University of Teesside :: Undergraduate Study :: Engineering & Technology

notice the difference in the courses?

engineering is about engineering things, while science is about being a scientist.

 

[Imgormiel]

yes but what has computer science got to do with being an actual engineer (who builds buildings, or bridges, or designs materials)?

bottom line, you cant chose the type of degree you want. computers is a science area and will be a bachelors of science.

BEng will guarantee a job in an engineering position, but do you want to be an engineer or a computer scientist?

check these

University of Teesside :: Undergraduate Study :: Computing

University of Teesside :: Undergraduate Study :: Engineering & Technology

notice the difference in the courses?

engineering is about engineering things, while science is about being a scientist.

I couldn't agree more

 

[tris-]

I couldn't agree more

oops, i mistook you for the origional poster

 

[Jeros]

er.....tris

lots of unis do both BSc and BEng in computer science like edinburgh

Undergraduate Prospectus 2008 - BSc Computer Science (G400

Undergraduate Prospectus 2008 - BEng Computer Science (G401

also if you read the description its the same thing apparantly!

 

[tris-]

then that doesnt make a whole lot of sense in my oppinnion.

how can someone who studys computers be both an engineer and a scientist? its completley different fields

 

[Jeros]

then that doesnt make a whole lot of sense in my oppinnion.

how can someone who studys computers be both an engineer and a scientist? its completley different fields

I suppose its how you define engineer, like a software engineer, your engineering computer code

 

[Jeros]

Hi Jeros,

Its my 7th week or so now at Uni doing BSc Computer Science. Our modules this first semester are, Maths and Statistics, Hardware Software Systems and Networks, Introduction to Software Development and I got to chose Web Design as my 4th option.

So far the maths is boring, We are doing Java atm is ISD which is just always coding, and Hssn we have just done logic gates/memory and atm cpu arcetecture (sp). Web Design is just a pain in the arse... If you got any questions just ask

What sort of Maths are you doing?

Im trying to jumpstart my maths at the moment, atm im doing a refresher course for my maths which is GCSE, then on my actual acess course im doing GCSE level Algebra, and come jan the course starts in earnest and we start on the A level stuff, thats when we really hit flavor country. Any area in particular i should be studying in my own time? Its going to get pretty intense in jan, so anything i can do to get a headstart i will happy with.

Its mad, Course started at the end of sept, finishes in July and your at uni by sept/oct. Talk about workload considering a lot of people on my course have not studyed above GCSE level.

 

[tris-]

but think though. someone employs you assuming youre an engineer, yet youve studied in the same way as a scientist.

therfore how can you perform like an engineer if your trained like a scientist?

 

[Sharma]

Funny that.

I'm a systems engineer.

So FU tris!

 

[tris-]

yes but my point is a scientist and an engineer are not the same discipline.

one way i can show that is in my first year, we had "engineering skills" classes and "scientific skills" classes. if they are both the same technically then why the need for two different classes teaching two different types of skill sets?

 

[Jeremiah]

I got the best of both worlds:

A BSc in Software Engineering =)

 

[Bugz]

What sort of Maths are you doing?

Im trying to jumpstart my maths at the moment, atm im doing a refresher course for my maths which is GCSE, then on my actual acess course im doing GCSE level Algebra, and come jan the course starts in earnest and we start on the A level stuff, thats when we really hit flavor country. Any area in particular i should be studying in my own time? Its going to get pretty intense in jan, so anything i can do to get a headstart i will happy with.

Its mad, Course started at the end of sept, finishes in July and your at uni by sept/oct. Talk about workload considering a lot of people on my course have not studyed above GCSE level.

You're doing an A-level from Jan to July ?

That's 6 units of work, each unit being ~7-8 sometimes 9-10 topics long :d

 

[Lamp]

I'm no expert in Bsc/BEng - but in my opinion, I'd say it doesn't matter all that much - unless you have a specific role you wanna work in - in which case, do the degree most relevant to that.

Once ppl leave uni and its time to find a job, it can be a struggle to get work, even though they might be degreed-up to the eyeballs. University education doesn't guarantee a job. Start your employment research now. Check out what companies can offer. Think about what interests you. Try and get some summer placements to get a feel of what work will be like.

Well thats how banking works anyway. IT might be different.

Have you thought about doing them both - joint honours ?

 

[leviathane]

I'm doing BEng - Motor sport Engineering, the maths basically is A level all over again, as which you can imagine is fucking boring.
First year is basically a run through of what you did in A level but in a tad more depth, you don't start properly learning till 2nd year, well atleast not in engineering anyway.

 

[Rubric]

Check out the GCHQ they sponsor people in their degrees and give you a placement in your final year.

You do have to work in your hols for them though

 

[Nate]

Sorry to hijack the thread but needs must!

I'm still thinking about Uni for next year, if I'm not sure what I can do with my education who can I talk to? Is there some Course Advisor at a Uni or a company set up to deal with these types of queries?

 

[tris-]

goto the uni website and get the phone number or email of the course leader, explain your shizzle to them.

 

[Jeros]

You're doing an A-level from Jan to July ?

That's 6 units of work, each unit being ~7-8 sometimes 9-10 topics long :d

Its condensed and its A Level equivilent level 3 units really.

gotta love access courses, i just hope it gives me the grounding i need.

You get four options of what to do, so its not like its tons of subjects. Im proboly going to do Maths,Physics and Chemistry i can do Biology too if i wanted to but i doubt i will, extra workload for somthing not relevent to what ill be doing at Uni.