Britain's 20's most dangerous drugs

[Helme]

Proud do'er of none of the drugs in the list!

Hah!

 

[Sparx]

Well said

I'm not proud, neither am i ashamed.

I've had some of the most amazing experiences on drugs, i have met fantastic people and am still really close to them. I have loved and lost. Its a part of my life and history i would never change.

Its frustrating having these sort of threads with people who have never tried them and go with the media/government perceptions.

Its just like the religion debates

 

[Sparx]

On the flip side i've also had some bad times too had a couple of friends go into rehab for things cause they got too involved and took it more than recreational. Also had a little bit of depression too after too long on it. Moderation is the key

 

[Zede]

Well said

Watch some Bill Hicks you noobs

Take every fuckin one of your classic rock, jazz, hip hop, fuck me, any genre of music and throw em all in the bin.

If lamp and his clean livin' m8s had there way, none of it would have existed.

You need a good spiking, i suggest lsd.

 

[Lamp]

I used to be a cocaine addict for 9 or 10 years. Was snorting a Henry every day (3.5 grammes). Anyway, I've been clean for years and years now. I'm not here to preach. What I'm saying is if you're gonna do whatever it is you do, there's no excuse to do it in ignorance of what the drug is doing to you, to others, and the possible long term effects on your health.

Yeah, I'd say I am pretty clean living. And proud of it.

Was the harding thing in my life to give up coke.

 

[Rubric]

I used to be a cocaine addict for 9 or 10 years. Was snorting a Henry every day (3.5 grammes). Anyway, I've been clean for years and years now. I'm not here to preach. What I'm saying is if you're gonna do whatever it is you do, there's no excuse to do it in ignorance of what the drug is doing to you, to others, and the possible long term effects on your health.

Yeah, I'd say I am pretty clean living. And proud of it.

Was the harding thing in my life to give up coke.

TBH i drank coke for ages. I even used to drink tesco's own coke. But now i am ok, went to rehab and now i only touch Dr. Pepper.

 

[Dukat]

Watch some Bill Hicks you noobs

Take every fuckin one of your classic rock, jazz, hip hop, fuck me, any genre of music and throw em all in the bin.

If lamp and his clean livin' m8s had there way, none of it would have existed.

You need a good spiking, i suggest lsd.

rofl.

 

[Chronictank]

injecting canabis? surely that wont do anything as it reacts to heat :s and thye arent going to be injecting hot resin into their arm

 

[Lamp]

injecting canabis? surely that wont do anything as it reacts to heat :s and thye arent going to be injecting hot resin into their arm

They injected THC (or an extract of it) at a very high concentration and dosage.

 

[Chronictank]

They injected THC (or an extract of it) at a very high concentration and dosage.

but THC isn't cannabis, its a compound found in cannabis not cannabis as a whole so surely they are mis-representing data from the out-set
After all its impossible to get the kind of exposure from injesting/smoking cannabis as it is for using THC

Meh ow well i havent done drugs since i was in college, although i do smoke on occasion (no tabacco before anyone starts)
just would have been nice if they did a nice well researched program rather than try to push an agenda

 

[Sparx]

but THC isn't cannabis, its a compound found in cannabis not cannabis as a whole so surely they are mis-representing data from the out-set
After all its impossible to get the kind of exposure from injesting/smoking cannabis as it is for using THC

My point exactly

 

[Marc]

It's amazing to see so many instances of the ''I knew a guy...'' school of arguing.

Scientists can tell me what they like. I prefer to go off what ive seen with my own eyes all these years.

 

[Marc]

Watch some Bill Hicks you noobs

Take every fuckin one of your classic rock, jazz, hip hop, fuck me, any genre of music and throw em all in the bin.

If lamp and his clean livin' m8s had there way, none of it would have existed.

You need a good spiking, i suggest lsd.

There you go mates. If you want to be a successful musician, you first have to inject yourself with as much shit as you possibly can.

 

[Raven]

Just because some "scientist" says its correct, doesn't mean it is....

Not disputing it, just saying.

Who cares what they say anyway, drugs effect different people in different ways, I smoked pot for years in my youth and it didn't do me any harm, on the other hand I know people who were and still are effected by it. Like most things though they are reasonably safe in moderation and its usually what they use to mix the drugs that will kill you.

 

[Sharma]

TBH i drank coke for ages. I even used to drink tesco's own coke. But now i am ok, went to rehab and now i only touch Dr. Pepper.

ROFL!

 

[Zede]

I used to be a cocaine addict for 9 or 10 years. Was snorting a Henry every day (3.5 grammes). Anyway, I've been clean for years and years now. I'm not here to preach. What I'm saying is if you're gonna do whatever it is you do, there's no excuse to do it in ignorance of what the drug is doing to you, to others, and the possible long term effects on your health.

Yeah, I'd say I am pretty clean living. And proud of it.

Was the harding thing in my life to give up coke.

And the woman i just dated, he ex-husband died of a H overdose 4 years ago. My point being for every person like yourself who was addicted, there are 10 others who did drugs, never got addicted and are absolutely fine.

You already did preach, sorry.

 

[swords]

Just because some "scientist" says its correct, doesn't mean it is....

Not disputing it, just saying.

And just cos someone else says ''I've been doing it for years and i'm fine.'' does not mean it isn't...

Example:

I go somewhere small with an aging population, take the average age of everyone there and then state clearly that since all these people are xxx years old on average. The average age of people in the UK must therefore be xxx because I have seen it.

And the woman i just dated, he ex-husband died of a H overdose 4 years ago. My point being for every person like yourself who was addicted, there are 10 others who did drugs, never got addicted and are absolutely fine.

You already did preach, sorry.

For every 10 others who did drugs, never got addicted and were absolutely fine, 100 OD'd and died.

 

[tris-]

replace drugs with alcohol and fags.

still the same thing, so why are "drugs" any worse?

 

[Zede]

And just cos someone else says ''I've been doing it for years and i'm fine.'' does not mean it isn't...

Example:

I go somewhere small with an aging population, take the average age of everyone there and then state clearly that since all these people are xxx years old on average. The average age of people in the UK must therefore be xxx because I have seen it.



For every 10 others who did drugs, never got addicted and were absolutely fine, 100 OD'd and died.

Im saying 1 in 10 has a problem ( probably a lot less, but its an example) your saying 1 in 100 ODs and dies ? Please excuse my bad math if thats not what you meant.

 

[Amildin]

There you go mates. If you want to be a successful musician, you first have to inject yourself with as much shit as you possibly can.

now theres a message for the kids

 

[Vladamir]

Im no expert but from my own experiences of what ive seen over the years, id put Amphetamine upto number 3 and steroids much higher.

Why'd you say that Marc?

 

[swords]

Im saying 1 in 10 has a problem ( probably a lot less, but its an example) your saying 1 in 100 ODs and dies ? Please excuse my bad math if thats not what you meant.

Mine is also an example, of pulling numbers from thin air.

 

[Rookiescot]

wow someone's cool.

At what point did I claim to be cool? I simply made a statement.

 

[Zede]

Mine is also an example, of pulling numbers from thin air.

willing to bet a zillion quid its more like 1/1000000 though !

 

[Marc]

Why'd you say that Marc?

Again, based on personal experiences of what ive seen and heard.

Anyone who pumps that shit in their veins deserve to die an early death. Just my opinion of course.

My mate, is the head nurse at whats called "Ward 28". The loony ward of the local hospital and we touched on this subject last night over a few beers. He said every single person that has passed through the doors of his ward over the past 10 years have been drug takers. In his opinion, the worst drug for mental health problems was amphtemine (which was my opinion too), followed closely by Cannabis and then steriods. His assumption was based on the medical histories of his patients.

Steroids also poses a physical risk, especially if taken orally, rather than injected, but its the risk to your mental health that people arent aware of.

 

[Vladamir]

I think the mental health issues are merely those that they can be psychologically addictive.

Orals vs injectables are more liver toxic, although informed users will normally run something alongside to maintain liver function. Bare in mind the liver regenerates itself too - so theres no reason it can't return to full function after say, a 10 week cycle.

There's been no conclusive studies done that can link steroid use with death, which is why it seems strange to make the list.

 

[Cemeterygates]

I think the mental health issues are merely those that they can be psychologically addictive.

Orals vs injectables are more liver toxic, although informed users will normally run something alongside to maintain liver function. Bare in mind the liver regenerates itself too - so theres no reason it can't return to full function after say, a 10 week cycle.

There's been no conclusive studies done that can link steroid use with death, which is why it seems strange to make the list.

mental health wise i don't agree....used to smoke pot heavy...would do a Q (7 grams) to myself a day for about 5 years,mostly lungs,buckets and bongs...i'm definately different upstairs because of it (mood swings an bouts of depression)

and liver regeneration? to an extent....but why is it people need liver transplants due to alcohol abuse? only so much it can take.

 

[Vladamir]

We're talking about steroids not pot r/e mental health.

10 weeks of stress with ancillary meds & time off to let the body recover is far less damaging than alcohol abuse.

 

[soze]

The only drug on the list i touch is Alcohol and then i very rearly go out and get drunk. When i have friends round at the weekend i have a few can for a few pints of JD and coke but not to binge drinking levels. I have never smoked fags mainly because they do not make sence to me £5 to increase the risk of cancer thanks but lets not. So i have never been tempted by pot or any other recreational drug. And i know a few people who have been destroyed by Heroine and Coke so i have no interest.

A old school friend of mine left school and got a decent job a flat i though he was doing really well untill about a year ago when i heard he got hooked on heroine untill he eventually lost his job and his house and was found dead in a park one morning. Elements killed him not the drugs but i would still blame them.

I have some mates who do not work they just sit arond smoking pot and tbh they are thick as 2 short planks. But I have a mate who takes x every friday night thats it and he is switched on got a decent job ect.

 

[swords]

willing to bet a zillion quid its more like 1/1000000 though !

Oh, cool! I'll use that in my thesis, i'm sure the fact i'm willing to place a huge bet on the expected outcome of my work will mean I don't even need evidence. Sweet!