Britain's 20's most dangerous drugs

[Ezteq]

well i think alcohol is deffo one of the worst drugs out there and yet people find that perfectly socially acceptable. can you imagine some swanky cocktail party and some waiter is handing out hyperdeemic noodles?

junkies are mostly nasty arseholes when theyre looking for their next hit (yes yes i do know i lived in the same frikkin house as some!) but when theyre stoned theyre a bit like potatoes but with less eyes...and brain cells. cant really say that about people when theyve been hitting the ole wife beater...or as some call it Stella.

 

[soze]

People being proud of doing drugs make me laugh. People who rubbish scientific proof about drugs because them and there mates have tried and not died make me Sad.

 

[Sparx]

People being proud of doing drugs make me laugh. People who rubbish scientific proof about drugs because them and there mates have tried and not died make me Sad.

Scientists have all but addmitted that they still dont know the full lasting effects of pills. They cant make up their minds on it. So yes i will tend to believe people i know who have been doing it 20-30 years over someone who hasnt and cant make up their mind

 

[Nate]

based on harm to the user, harm to society, and addictiveness.

Thats why alcohol is above quite a few other drugs. How many drunks fall over/do damage to there body whilst drunk hello liver!? How much does it cost society to repair broken things/people due to drunks? and How many people are alcoholic?

 

[soze]

Scientists have all but addmitted that they still dont know the full lasting effects of pills. They cant make up their minds on it. So yes i will tend to believe people i know who have been doing it 20-30 years over someone who hasnt and cant make up their mind

Is ecstasy the only drug on the list i would think because not that many people OD on it and not much is know is why it might be low on the list.

 

[Sparx]

Is ecstasy the only drug on the list i would think because not that many people OD on it and not much is know is why it might be low on the list.

I'm going to stop commenting on this subject until i've watched the programme in iplayer

I need to find out why on earth Ket is so high and GB is so low. When i am running my club nights Ket heads are zombies who dont annoy/do harm to anyone and GHB lot someone goes down everytime guaranteed, its so easy for them to OD

 

[Mephz]

Anabolic Steroids

I loled, utter shit.

 

[Talivar]

I used to know people that had done coke/heroin solid for 10 years and where fine but someone at my school many years ago died from a reaction to esctasy. That doesnt mean Es more dangerous than coke it just means the people i knew doing coke had been very lucky. You say u see ppl doing Ket and GB and can judge hopw dangerous they are just from there reactions on that night but thats just half of the story. What you cant see is any slow building internal damage or which is starting to make the person truly addicted and not just i feel like some of that tonight cus it makes me feel good addiction. To many people base drugs dangers just on the surface reactions and thats where we going wrong.

 

[Bourlog]

In what way can cannabis be more dangerous the E?
I seriously doubt that very much. Ive been smoking since i was a kid, lost of my friends did E and most of them is pretty fucked up for life right now.
Yeah i know that dosnt prove anything but come on, do you guys really think cannabis is that dangerous?

Has anyone ever died from smoking cannabis?

 

[old.Tohtori]

Aren't these the same scientists types*, who people used as people who are proof against god or some such?

Aren't these the same people who say "tobacco is more dangerous then weed", when discussing tobacco problems?

Aren't these the same type'a'people who say passive smoking kills?

And now, the same people who are using these people as argument fillers, are now saying they talk bullsh*t? SImple as that?

How, interesting.

*Scientist types mean all scientists in general.

EDIT: Also rather interestingly wiating for first "Yeah but you see, we have to choose what to believe about what they say" comment.

 

[liloe]

Aren't these the same scientists types*, who people used as people who are proof against god or some such?

Aren't these the same people who say "tobacco is more dangerous then weed", when discussing tobacco problems?

Aren't these the same type'a'people who say passive smoking kills?

And now, the same people who are using these people as argument fillers, are now saying they talk bullsh*t? SImple as that?

How, interesting.

*Scientist types mean all scientists in general.

EDIT: Also rather interestingly wiating for first "Yeah but you see, we have to choose what to believe about what they say" comment.

Spread reputation etc.

I think the list is quite interesting, cause it takes more into account than just the immediate effect of a drug. Yes, maybe people who take cocaine aren't very badass, but the crime-scene behind it is, which makes the drug more dangerous aswell. Alcohol was already explained by Ez and I think the list is very interesting because of the point of view.

 

[Sparx]

Ok watching the programme just now

the experiment with the cannibas is flawed right off. They are injecting rather than smoking and at MUCH higher doses. They admitted that the effects will be totally different to smoking. So what on earth does that prove from smoking it?
Btw i dont smoke it, i have done once maybe twice in my life. I just feel in order to do a proper test on it you have to have the factors the same.

The ecstacy one, of course your going to have loss of memory 2 hours after you have done it, you are not concentrating on anything important.

If these people believe GHB isnt dangerous then they are fools. Their facts are wrong "not many people are doing GHB" Fuck off, go to any Trance/Hard Trance/Hard House even House club up North i guarantee it that at least half there are on Geebs

So i'm not convinced, and yes i am watching it like alot of peoples arguements. Still waiting to get to Ket i'm interested in what they say, one thing i hope they bring up is the addictiveness of it, i for one vouch that it is addictive. Not like Heroin, you dont have to have it to survive its more of a craving, you can go without it but when you know some is nearby then you really want it

EDIT: I kinda agree that smoking at a much younger age may cause harm mentally. But that can be said for anything that changes your perceptions whilst they young mind is still learning and changing

 

[Himse]

In what way can cannabis be more dangerous the E?
I seriously doubt that very much. Ive been smoking since i was a kid, lost of my friends did E and most of them is pretty fucked up for life right now.
Yeah i know that dosnt prove anything but come on, do you guys really think cannabis is that dangerous?

Has anyone ever died from smoking cannabis?

Cannabis frazzles your brain :|

E probably does the same, dunno, but E gives you a high right, whereas Cannabis is more of a relaxant?

 

[Dukat]

Cannabis frazzles your brain :|

E probably does the same, dunno, but E gives you a high right, whereas Cannabis is more of a relaxant?

Isn't weed a mood enchancer more than a relaxant? If you're upset/pissed off when you have it I heard it can make you worse...

Just what I heard though, could be bull Never even seen E though, stuff like that scares me tbh, hate the idea of a chemical altering my mood/thoughts like that. I know alchahol does exactly the same, but I feel like I know more or less what to expect from it, the other stuff in that list all seems so unpredictable and dangerous to me, just not worth the risk by a long shot.... guess its down to everyone to make the choice though.

 

[Sparx]

The stuff on Ket just showed they dont have anything on it, for something so high on the list they didnt mention much about the long lasting effects at all

 

[Sparx]

LOL they say another name for Coke is Base. Base is something totally different

 

[Marc]

LOL they say another name for Coke is Base. Base is something totally different

No its not. base is Cocaine in its purest form

 

[Rubric]

Why are some of them in bold?

 

[Marc]

Im no expert but from my own experiences of what ive seen over the years, id put Amphetamine upto number 3 and steroids much higher.

 

[Sparx]

No its not. base is Cocaine in its purest form

I stand corrected, i always thought Base was more pure speed than coca

I dont do it, and havent done speed in years.

And yes i would've put amphets and crystal higher too

 

[Marc]

I stand corrected, i always thought Base was more pure speed than coca

I dont do it, and havent done speed in years.

And yes i would've put amphets and crystal higher too

Defo! Most people think Amphets is pretty safe for a drug. How wrong can they be. I know of so many people who have gone loopy and are now in a mental ward because of it. Scary stuff

 

[Sparx]

ahh its called freebase

 

[Zede]

Tried em all apart from the H of course.

Alcohol & Tobacco should be No1 & 2, without a doubt.

The scientists know SHIT.

 

[Zede]

Exactly.

You get people who have smoked a bit of weed and they think they're experts in the fields of pharmacology, toxicology, psychopharmacology, neurology, and chemisty. Do me a favour. You know nothing. Watch the program.

I am

 

[swords]

It's amazing to see so many instances of the ''I knew a guy...'' school of arguing.

 

[Dukat]

I am

rofl.

 

[tris-]

Cannabis worse than Ecstasy? Cannabis, a class C drug whilst Ecstasy is a class A drug? I would say Ecstasy is worse than Cannabis but....

Jim

you cant just say a drug is worse than another based on its legal class.

i dont think pure MDMA causes much problems unless you have an adverse reaction. but people have adverse reactions to peanuts or shell fish and we still sell them.

problem with some of the drugs is people mix and match them. for example MDMA can speed uyp the heart due its stimulant component, but then people take a depressant telling the heart to slow down. the heart is then getting mixed signals - slow down, speed up then itl start missing beats and go out of rhythm. the heart is happy to speed up, and its happy to slow down but it cannot try do both at once. if you exercise you can easily get it upto 180bpm without keeling over. i wonder what a stimulant speeds it upto.

 

[Rubric]

Yes but why are some of them in bold?

 

[tris-]

i can only speculate.

fags and booze are in bold i think to show how high they rate as being bad.
then the other things are in bold as we know what they are, and we THINK they are so bad because of their class. but this shows they are not as bad as legal alternatives.

 

[Lamp]

People being proud of doing drugs make me laugh. People who rubbish scientific proof about drugs because them and there mates have tried and not died make me Sad.

Well said