Athrun
Fledgling Freddie
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I would go as far as to say that Germany would have won if they had not gone for Russia, they had both superior troops and tanks - the only area where the US/UK were better was in the air
Britain had a more superior navy than germany in both WW1 + 2, and dont forget the British navy also fought the italian navy with success in the med..
yes german uboats were a pain, but britain also had subs and iirc the first ever sub vs sub victory was from a british sub vs a german uboat.
I doubt very much that germany would have "won" even if they didnt go for russia.. Britain played smart with turtle tactics to defend itself from invasion by the RAF + navy, while at the same time concentrating on long ranged attacks by air and continuing superiority at sea, it would have been retarded to push money into making a ground force that could compete with germanys strong ground army.
hitler stopped his plans for the invasion of britain aka "operation sea lion" after the battle of britain, granted a substantial amount of this success is attributed to Britian inventing a network of radar systems around the southern coast of Britian, german intelligence had no idea we even had this at the time.. meaning we could always know where and when german aircraft would be.
With no way for germany to invade Britain how could we "lose" ? Britain had a long term strategy based on defence first, the "winner" would have been the first country to develope a working nuke..
As for your comment about germany out trooping us "easily" in a modern war hmm, it would be far from "easy"
germany have an estimated 280k professional soldiers, britain has 200k atm.
Britain still has a larger air force than germany, and still has a far superior navy.
and ground forces? Britain uses the challenger2 tank which is a superior tank to the leopard2, it is has much better armour (uses advanced chobham armour while american abrahms tanks use the earlier chobham), C2 has a far longer killing range than L2 (and any other tank for that matter), the C2 still holds the record for the furthest tank vs tank kill.
L2 is smaller, lighter, faster, cheaper to produce and maintain and more fuel efficient, it would be the tank i would purchase if i was in a position to do so for my country because of this, but i know for sure which tank i would rather be inside in combat
not a single challenger2 has been destroyed by enemy fire to date, despite 1 being hit in afghanistan by 20+ rpg and a Milan anti tank missile.. it was able to withdraw with only its targetting system damaged.
Ofc we could argue for hours regarding german vs british ground forces, who could "out troop" who, who has the better quality, who has the quantity, SAS/SBS etc, britains apache helis.. but the bottom line is Britain is 1 of only 5 nuclear powers in the world