Bonedancers, wtf ??

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Jace

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Melee fight - lvl24 Armsman vs lvl24 Bonedancer

Bonedancer wins by a mile.

Anyone else thinks this is fucked up beyond belief?

Ayone else care to give me a reason to carry on playing my Armsman?

And yes I was owned, but shouldn't tank classes beat casters in pure melee?
 
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old.Greggor

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According to mythic "any charater can beat any other charater" :)
(But some get more beaten than others) :(

unless u hace spec wrong or u are not using the right styles ?

Or maybe they have fecked up and u are the same as heros vs champs in hiberian
champion = hp to heros unless hero is buffed to hell
champion does more damage
champion has spells
hero has stag even 30 mins

Champion > Hero

OR

Bonedancer beat u in mellee

U beat the bonedancer in looking good in platemail :)
 
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Cavex ElSaviour

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Originally posted by old.Greggor


Bonedancer beat u in mellee

U beat the bonedancer in looking good in platemail :)

Albs always look better then middies, shees, If daoc was RL, and oy could choose between a trol or an avalonion female, then the choise would be VERY easy.
 
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thorungla

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Bonedancers - depending on spec arent strictly a pure caster, they are a pet class and there is a difference in my opinion. I would suggest unless your damage is frontloaded such as an assasin, or purely large 2handed weapon spec, or bolt caster, that trying to take on a BD'er that has his own personal healer and another friend or two isnt an appropriate tactic for success.

Bonedancers arent the usual RP cow caster all melee classes are used to. They do however still get killed quite easily if you figure out the appropriate technique as opposed to the traditional ignore the pets and start bashing the caster with your weapon.

Have to say I have had an enjoyable evening learning about some of the new classes strengths and weaknesses as well as some apparent exploits available to them. Some of which I know mythic have dealt with. Having said that, the experiences of the BG's isnt really going to tell me much about the endgame and level 50 rvr. I look forward to more personal deaths and victories.
 
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Turamber

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From my reading of the VN Boards and other DAOC discussion boards it appears all of the SI classes eat melee classes alive ... but are cannon fodder for pure casters, with the exception of the necromancer which everyone seems to agree is bugged to hell and overpowered all at the same time.
 
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georgus

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Think its generally agreed that in BG Bonedancers are as powerful as they get as well, with those healing pets 1v1 it appears there pretty unstoppable.
 
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old.Schenton

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There is no 1 on 1 if you meet a Bonedancer there i 1 on 3, you against a caster, tank and a healer if the BD is supp.
 
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old.Emma

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Originally posted by old.Schenton
There is no 1 on 1 if you meet a Bonedancer there i 1 on 3, you against a caster, tank and a healer if the BD is supp.

1 vs 5 actually :p

lvl 45+ supp BD has himself + 1 commander + 3 healing pets :p

i cant beat a BD 1 vs 1 thats with my insane attack speed.. only way i can beat is if they let me use my stun style :p which kinda defeats the object of the challange :p
 
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Jace

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Looks like there is no reason to carry on with an Armsman then.
 
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old.moriath

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roflmao

Your class cant kill 1 other class in the game and you decide to stop playing it.

Try lvling a scout or hunter to lvl 50 when you have to be very selective as to which classes you attack.

An armsmen just like a warrior or a Hero can be effective in certain situations and less effective in others.

Just because you can't Own a caster, who isnt really a pure caster as has already been said ( I mean just lvling i act as a tank to anything up to orange con)

Go roll an Infil like al lthe other whiners ... pfffft

:flame:
 
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old.Cher

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gotta agree, just because u can't kill a class doesn't mean u have to reroll, but if u feel u can't play the game without easily beating any class into a pulp with no skill needed, just get a buffbot and roll an inf. its hours of fun attacking things with a small chance of losing!:rolleyes:
 
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Jace

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Moriath, having a level 50 Ranger I know a fair bit about being selective when it comes to targets thx.

I agree that I will be more effective in certain situations and less in others but you and Cher have totally missed the point I was trying to make. I was 110% inneffective in what was an ideal situation for me, i.e. I got the jump on my oponent, taking him by surprise, yet was totally and utterly destroyed with apparent ease.

I don't really care about winning at the end of the day, if I did I would have created an Infiltrator as you say, but I doubt I'm the only person who's experienced a moment with their character that makes them question just what on earth is going on.
 
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stafford

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i ran through the amg a day or 2 ago there was a yellow con clothed troll with his 3 fossil healers


DAoC expansion: £20
2nd computer and cam accounts for bonedancer: £500
powerlvling your new b'dancer day and night to 46: Free + coffee

A friar killing you in 3 hits bfore you can catch his name: Priceless ^^
 
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old.Zarff

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well he proberly only lvl 46 at that time.. and lets not start the discussion about friars dmg output again...
 
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Old Nicodemus

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Originally posted by Jace
Moriath, having a level 50 Ranger I know a fair bit about being selective when it comes to targets thx.

I agree that I will be more effective in certain situations and less in others but you and Cher have totally missed the point I was trying to make. I was 110% inneffective in what was an ideal situation for me, i.e. I got the jump on my oponent, taking him by surprise, yet was totally and utterly destroyed with apparent ease.

I don't really care about winning at the end of the day, if I did I would have created an Infiltrator as you say, but I doubt I'm the only person who's experienced a moment with their character that makes them question just what on earth is going on.

Welcome to the world of a pre SI Mid caster...:)

With every tank and stealther around with IP you tend to end up eating the dirt in about 2 secs of every fight starting. It does make you wonder wtf you were thinking when you rolled up a mystic in the first place.

However.. I love my SM to bits. I don't really play any other class and I probably never will. Chill out and have a beer matey, just area mezz the feckers and gank the caster. That's how people deal with casters of all kinds these days! ;)

Mad Mortuus
Spiritgimp :m00:
 
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mabs0r

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Originally posted by Turamber
necromancer which everyone seems to agree is bugged to hell and overpowered all at the same time.

so they going to be nerfed .. right after chanters ? ;)
 
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old.moriath

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Well bonedancers aren't anywhere nr as bad as trying to take a keep with an anamist pamming turrets out of the keep .... ouch they hurt

Tell you what nerf everyone .... just allow everyone to go into RvR with a bronze training shield and sword and we can all hack away at each other

Well you would still get RPs ;)
 
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Luuna

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and oy could choose between a trol or an avalonion female, then the choise would be VERY easy.

Avalonians are one of the most disturbing looking races in the game. Check out those rubbery, elongated foreheads! /cry
 
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old.willowywicca

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Originally posted by old.moriath
roflmao

Your class cant kill 1 other class in the game and you decide to stop playing it.

Try lvling a scout or hunter to lvl 50 when you have to be very selective as to which classes you attack.

An armsmen just like a warrior or a Hero can be effective in certain situations and less effective in others.

one thing, whilst scouts hunters etc have to be more selective about their targets, an armsman doesn't really have that luxury, they have no stealth to avoid being seen until a choice target comes along. Anything and everything can easily spot them and attack them, whether the armsman chose that target or not..
 
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Anu

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My lvl 17 warrior duel'd a lvl 17 Bonedancer and i hit him 3 times for 70+ and he used 4 sec cast liedrain on me and i was dead. :(
 
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pudzy

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Whiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Says the realms with easy 9sec stun, stealthing chain wearers, group purge ability Ra's and Walker!
 
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old.windforce

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try play 1 of those chain wearing stealthers....
 
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living

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Use 2h :) BD's are owned by procs/spells and 2h weapons cuz they cant keep up the dmg u do.. also get some resist against their lifedrain DD and they will be useless.

And about the hero/champion stuff, champions cant slam, you forgot to mention that, and champions cant kill a berserker.. a hero can if u play him right, ask Tankster Girl :)
 
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Cush

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Originally posted by pudzy
Whiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Says the realms with easy 9sec stun, stealthing chain wearers, group purge ability Ra's and Walker!

Ya nerf walker!!
 
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pudzy

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I did, I leeched xp all the way aswell, deleted at same lvl u r now, and the most underated RvR class in my opinion, more than useful, now stupidly usefull, BUT good luck climbing those walls with crappy stealth, promise to PA you. :p
 
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old.willowywicca

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Originally posted by living

And about the hero/champion stuff, champions cant slam, you forgot to mention that, and champions cant kill a berserker.. a hero can if u play him right, ask Tankster Girl :)

champs can't slam? erm.. wrong!
champs can't kill a berserker? erm.. also wrong! (yes they're very hard, but it's not impossible by any means)
 
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old.Downanael

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Originally posted by old.willowywicca



champs can't kill a berserker? erm.. also wrong! (yes they're very hard, but it's not impossible by any means)

Even it's hard even with me healing you :D Damn they hurts btw:(
 

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