BMs and Mercs on a strike!

[belth]

Originally posted by old.LandShark


Problem is, the average whinging VNboardite isn't going to be able to tell the difference. Be very, very afraid... ^^

Aye, except most of the whining comes from victims of highly buffed SZs... That alone makes it a specline which will get nerfed, just look at Ztyx's thread - SB pretty much 2-shotting someone with 26% slash resists and 99/100 qua AF100/102 armor. That simply should not happen with anything but lots of luck and Critical Strike PA-chain.

 

[old.0xygen]

Play a zerk and BM to 50 and see how you feel.

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Cd/DW styles are awful awful awful

If you went and read some of the logs on the vn boards you'd see how bad it is. Our BM TL managed to hit someone with a blunt weapon with 40qui for 405. A zerk with 35qui managed to hit her for over 600. Also the zerker was swinging over a second faster because of the haste affect created on zerks when they use a slow/fast combo.


Midgard is the melee realm that doesn't mean its melee should be superior it means most of its classes are melee based (skalds a good example)

Ohh and a zerk on the vn boards is doing a good job of getting his class nerfed cause he talks a lot of crap. Protoss be his name. BM's and Merc's dont want zerks nerfed, but many of us are fed up with our damage being sub par to every other melee class

 

[BlueJam]

Originally posted by old.0xygen
Midgard is the melee realm that doesn't mean its melee should be superior it means most of its classes are melee based (skalds a good example)

But then again if you bring the damage dealers in line with each other, you get tanks with equal ablility on each realm but with Alb and Hib have better casting classes.

Which kind of leaves Mid walking away wearing it's arse as a hat after any RvR encounter.

It kinda screws Albs as well, think about how hard it is to take down a good hib group atm, now add an uber BM into the mix, running around hacking your support classes down.

 

[talivarevil]

PPPPPPPPPLAIN EEEEEEENGLISH
I AM A BM
I KILL ZERKS 1 on 1
STOP CRYING

 

[BlueJam]

Originally posted by talivarevil
PPPPPPPPPLAIN EEEEEEENGLISH
I AM A BM
I KILL ZERKS 1 on 1
STOP CRYING

Then you wake up and have teh cornflakes!

 

[old.0xygen]

BlueJam you misunderstood.


CD/DW issues are one of many issues. Balance is the key the biggest key of all. But how can 2 classes be weaker to maintain balance thats just bullshit.

I'm not saying make bm's deh uber far from it I just want to be comparable.

Sure theres lots of classes that need work.

What your saying is change one class and the whole game goes to the knackers.

Classes get bumps, nerfs etc all the time and its still not happened big time (well clerics maybe )

 

[talivarevil]

bluejam ive never meta zerk i havent killed 1 on 1 yet

 

[belth]

Originally posted by old.Reno
Taken from 1.47 patch notes:
Blademasters now get Evade III at 25th level.

Danita

Damn the char builders ability list needs updating Have to check Classes of Camelot too for future references then...

 

[elerand]

The basic thing is that CD is pants as a style line and the mechanics are bit crap too but compared to LA the mechanics are fine if CD styles are given a boost!

Both BM's and Mercs need this improvement, it gives both realms another tank option, saw about 5-6 zerkers in odins this evening, 1 on 1 is one thing and 3 zerkers on my poor BM is another (think they got off on it too...the perverts).

Many classes need balancing, these two are just a gripe that's been going around a long time and while there are many who love their chars (me included, glad I never followed novomir's advice and rolled a hero, I had one already and it's shit dull )
there are things that need fixing, just because they need to be done, not cos I want a character that pwns everything.

I've had long talks with talivar over the shortcomings of the bm class and while he's on top of his game right now he knows the truth
Cool class, cack spec line...

 

[Juanita]

The problem for Mythic when fixing CD is that rangers and nightshades get loving too. I assume that is why they have put it off.

 

[StormriderX]

Thats no excuse because its not as if shadowzerks don't already exist. Also rangers/nightshades would have to sacrifice other skills in order to raise their celtic dual.

 

[Juanita]

Well, i wasn't saying they were right not doing it

 

[healer_mcheal]

How about making CD/DW styles allways swing the Off-Hand, like LA does, well, zerkers swing second hand no matter what, but BM's/Mercs dont

 

[belth]

Drop the scaling on LA from 2.0 to 1.5 and up the scaling on DW/CD styles from 1.0 to 1.25. Problem solved.

 

[elerand]

And improve the CD style bonuses to keep it in line with other weapon specs at least

 

[lofff]

reroll an usefull class.

 

[elerand]

Originally posted by lofff
reroll an usefull class.

Now now, lets not turn into whining vnboarders

The class isn't useless, it's not finished yet!
Never for a moment amongst all the classes I've played have I thought a BM was useless, people have played both my BM and Hero and thought the BM was more fun and very effective, I certainly feel that way about my BM

I certainly won't be abandoning mine and I think if anyone likes a challenge they should roll one