BM races . advantages/disadvantages ?

[Punishment]

There alot of arguements , but not many will put there money where their mouth is and even get a bm 50 , or even think about a bm after they post here :O

I went for Firb 50 blades 50 cd 28 parry(31 if u autotrain)Specced 15 str 10 qui @ creation

The above template isnt ideal for a furb as u will need aug qui 2 to have anyways decent qui @ 230 , 218 w/o augs and will give 405 str buffed ... but its also a high survivability template which has exceptional resists and 1750 hp unbuffed or 2450 hp or so buffed ... slightly more with scepter charge up + using spec af charge on an item is a must imo.

Overall i would go for blades or blunt furb 15 str 10 qui for my own reasons , sure feemale celts are cute and shars have like 80 or so more hp , but a light tanks job is to have uber dps per second , okok maybe only 230 qui as said above but i still think is better over the duration of a fight .... hope this all helps , the rest is up to u m8 , just giving u the sound advice i didnt get and i hope u put it to use as alot of people on these forums talk crap and will hop on the fotmwagon without a minutes notice ... Enjoy ure bm

 

[Chrstffr]

celt!!!1111

 

[Ronso]

Firb 15stre 10quick beyond a doubt ..

punish stop trolling and sort out my template

 

[guano]

For slash firb 15str 10qui. Thrust could be nice with shar and 10str 15dex tbh

 

[Tarmak]

Firby! 15 strength 10 quick!

They're easy targets for shearing tho

 

[liloe]

hah noobs elfs rock

yer totally, my BM is elf since I saw Xedd from old Bulle af Fetstryk. I guess that was the person who inspired me most to create the char......now I'm looking for someone to inspire me to actually level it =))

But I guess if you want most out of your char, firbie or celt. Celt is slightly faster, but firbie totally wins with high str

 

[Vondra]

Im running a pierce Firbolg BM.

Stat stats 10 Str, 10 Dex and 10 Con

Works like a charm. Nasty hits on chain.

 

[Spetsnaz]

I went for Firb 50 blades 50 cd 28 parry(31 if u autotrain)Specced 15 str 10 qui @ creation

autotrain???
i thought only chars hib got with autotrain are NS (stealth) and ranger (bow) ...

 

[Gear]

autotrain???
i thought only chars hib got with autotrain are NS (stealth) and ranger (bow) ...

Indeed. No autotrain on bms mate, it's not a merc.

 

[Kadayn]

Celt 10 str / dex / quick - Pierce - BMF / ML10 Offhander(Disease) or build a dr temp.

 

[ruw]

TaRMaC

Firby! 15 strength 10 quick!

They're easy targets for shearing tho

fat firb - cute and cuddley

 

[necromania]

went firb, 15 str, 10 qui .


thx for all the reply

 

[Howley]

fat firb - cute and cuddley

firb Bm in fluffy armor !!

 

[TriggerHappy]

Elf-always targeted first its like an impulse wen u see elf u go for it,
my mate had an elf champ and it used to get popped by stealthers
as they were runnin around in grp
shar- talk to agrigo , the high survivability of this race makes it good and with similar stats to a clet after that it makes it a good all rounder,along with its racial resists crush+5 i think it is good for fighting other tanks,
firb - Tbh slow and hurt,with hibs having a guaranteed haste in grp at all times along with a good Toa temp a firb will land its hits very quikc nd effective,
celt- By far my favorite,you just have to look at the best BMs out there or atleast the highest RR.... Ojass,Mnd,Eyn,Lanai,...... all celt and tbh it seems to work,celt alows you a variance of change also, good in every spec line and effective soloers, imo a good choice but at the end of the day

Skillz > Race

well GL mate with ur choice wateva happened to the pala

 

[necromania]

a clet

Skillz > Race

well GL mate with ur choice wateva happened to the pala

whats a clet ?

 

[ruw]

hh

well firbs can go piecre aswell

pierce = dex/str based

celt starts with 60 of each, firb 90/40

60+60=120/2 = 60
60+90=130/2 = 65

dunno if this is how they calculate WS.

easier to make template for celt tho

 

[Alexandrinus]

yes but the grow rate of dex is only secondary

 

[Alexandrinus]

I went for Firb 50 blades 50 cd 28 parry(31 if u autotrain)Specced 15 str 10 qui @ creation

thats the damadge makerspec, some go 44cd 44blade or 50cd 44blade for soloing.
and this autotraining for BM's made my morning,thx (ofc there is no autotraining in hib for tanks)

 

[liloe]

thats the damadge makerspec, some go 44cd 44blade or 50cd 44blade for soloing.
and this autotraining for BM's made my morning,thx (ofc there is no autotraining in hib for tanks)

I guess you can even go 50CD, 37weapon ( at RR5 ), 42shield, rest parry. I've seen one pretty known merc do that and I must say that I was very impressed by the playstyle =)

 

[Donledirse]

well firbs can go piecre aswell

pierce = dex/str based

celt starts with 60 of each, firb 90/40

60+60=120/2 = 60
60+90=130/2 = 65

dunno if this is how they calculate WS.

easier to make template for celt tho

I have one problem with this, evade and chance to parry is based on your dex/quick and your dex.

So if your soloing isn't it good to have a better chance to evade and parry aswell as do dmg?

Thinking pierce with DB style which chains of evades.

 

[Alexandrinus]

I guess you can even go 50CD, 37weapon ( at RR5 ), 42shield, rest parry. I've seen one pretty known merc do that and I must say that I was very impressed by the playstyle =)

if you dont use artis yes, but when you have artis wich loose theire lvl 5 or 10 ability i wouldnt do this spec

 

[ruw]

I have one problem with this, evade and chance to parry is based on your dex/quick and your dex.

So if your soloing isn't it good to have a better chance to evade and parry aswell as do dmg?

Thinking pierce with DB style which chains of evades.

...if your'e piecre+solo

but it's an option

 

[TriggerHappy]

whats a clet ?

Celt

 

[Skirne]

I am very happy with my Firbolg BM, he looks menacing and hits very hard.

By all means roll a shar or elf, but you will be inferior to any firbolg.

 

[liloe]

if you dont use artis yes, but when you have artis wich loose theire lvl 5 or 10 ability i wouldnt do this spec

watch the Tedious Ten movie =) but don't look for Draxa, look for Hrae. Battler in mainhand - malice /use2 is not THAT great in 8v8 - and lots of shield swapping for slam, as alrdy mentioned, I'm impressed =)

 

[daoc_xianghua]

firby 10str 10dex 10qui

lol

firbolgs spec 15 str 10 qui and spec slash/blunt, nothing else

dex is useless for firbolg...

now to topic...

if you wanna go pierce you roll celt with 10str 10dex 10qui

shar is ok if you want a bit more hp but shar also has the lowest dmg output of those 3 races, since dmg output is everything for BM i wouldnt recommend shar.

celt is more flexible than bolg cuz you can can respec between all weapon types whereas a firb will never go pierce (40dex ftw). but if you plan to go slash/crush anyway then make firbolg.

 

[daoc_xianghua]

I have one problem with this, evade and chance to parry is based on your dex/quick and your dex.

So if your soloing isn't it good to have a better chance to evade and parry aswell as do dmg?

Thinking pierce with DB style which chains of evades.

actually ye if you spec firbolg 10 dex 10 str 10qui you get to 100str 50dex/2 = 75 with 50qui

but celt with 10 str 10 dex 10 qui got 70str 70dex/2 = 70 with 70qui

so overall dmg over time is better on celt if you go pierce

 

[Konah]

dex is useless for firbolg... if you wanna go pierce you roll celt with 10str 10dex 10qui

...and gimp your pierce ws? firb has better pierce wepskill than a celt

the slight qui advantage of celt isnt that big a deal when u got conc haste.

 

[daoc_xianghua]

...and gimp your pierce ws? firb has better pierce wepskill than a celt

the slight qui advantage of celt isnt that big a deal when u got conc haste.

ehh?

100str + 50 dex = 150/2 = 75 + 50qui for firbolg
70str + 70dex = 140/2 = 70 + 70qui for celt

so 5 difference in weaponskill is a big deal? maybe results in like 20 more WS max.
tbh the 20 more qui on celt make alot more difference...

 

[Konah]

assuming 4.3/3.5:
1.86s swing for firb with 50+80+93qui+21%+10%
1.76s swing for celt with 70+80+93+21%+10%

the firb will hit (a bit) harder, miss (a bit) less and have more useful racial resists, for the price of .1s slower swings (which can be made up with toa temp anyway) and wont be gimped if he goes blunt/blades down the road

shar does look like an ok choice actually, 5% crush + 5% less sorc mezz duration as racials is kinda nice... along with the extra 20con. if ur goin for 'interuptbot bm' its defo the one.