block rate cap 60%

[Shadster]

oki any ppl please explain this please if im rr6 have +5 shield in temp mob 2 what is my shield cap at ? some times i use cuul sword which has +4 or 5 shield on it but mostly ml10 mace

cheers.

 

[aika]

depends on dex too
and weaponskill

 

[Shadster]

depends on dex too
and weaponskill

im a warden and got 101 dex

 

[aika]

so how much dex you reach buffed? and I guess its 42 shield?

Dont think you will be even close to actual blocking cap as warden in rvr.

 

[Shadster]

so how much dex you reach buffed? and I guess its 42 shield?

Dont think you will be even close to actual blocking cap as warden in rvr.

i thought id of been close will come bck to you in a few mins with the buffed stats / ws etc

 

[Punishment]

Download this

 

[Shadster]

i thought id of been close will come bck to you in a few mins with the buffed stats / ws etc

331 dex
75base
101 temp
and 155 from buffs

str 328
83 base
+90 in temp
+155 from buffs

WS 1058

 

[Kagato]

More over, somebody explain to me why the bastards have block cap at 60% but only 50% for Parry despite the fact specing in it offers no styles or other bonuses and only works against melee weapons not ranged.

Increase parry cap to 60% for 2H weapon users FFS !

/rant off

 

[Shadster]

More over, somebody explain to me why the bastards have block cap at 60% but only 50% for Parry despite the fact specing in it offers no styles or other bonuses and only works against melee weapons not ranged.

Increase parry cap to 60% for 2H weapon users FFS !

/rant off

thats a fare point

 

[Chimaira]

My valk reaches 52.95 % at 309 dex 50+9 shield+rlm lvl :E much to be done

 

[Yrendan]

With 42 shield +5 @ rr6 with mob2 your block rate in rvr is 48,03%

 

[Shadster]

With 42 shield +5 @ rr6 with mob2 your block rate in rvr is 48,03%

omg that bad any 1 got a really nice warden temp with nice toys ml10 weapon or free hand with dragon shield with +11 in it .

atm got boz healers embrace likes boz in temp as i normally have to beat a couple scout's at same time

 

[Nuxtobatns]

50,83% parry
63,33% block + 6 %

but only 1494 WS :/

 

[BloodOmen]

50,83% parry
63,33% block + 6 %

but only 1494 WS :/

not your ws you have to worry about when calcing block rates its your enemies, pure tanks/zerkers/mercs/bms anything with over 2k wep skill basicly will drasticly reduce your block chance.

 

[aika]

not your ws you have to worry about when calcing block rates its your enemies, pure tanks/zerkers/mercs/bms anything with over 2k wep skill basicly will drasticly reduce your block chance.

thats not true, your WS affects it as well, thats why armsmen block better than paladins, with same dex,shield spec etc

 

[ileks]

What is the percentage that charplan gives relative to? i mean you might have 50% block chance against a stealther or something but what about a heavy tank?

 

[aika]

its on unstyled hits afaik, I dont think its accurate at all tbh

 

[Reno]

Styled or unstyled hits do not matter for evade/parry/block, only for hit/miss is the use of styles important.

Danita

 

[Bahumat]

thats not true, your WS affects it as well, thats why armsmen block better than paladins, with same dex,shield spec etc

Your weaponskill affects your chance to hit through their shield.
Their Shield Weaponskill (You cannot see this stat) affects their chance to block.

 

[Bahumat]

oki any ppl please explain this please if im rr6 have +5 shield in temp mob 2 what is my shield cap at ? some times i use cuul sword which has +4 or 5 shield on it but mostly ml10 mace

cheers.

331 dex
75base
101 temp
and 155 from buffs

str 328
83 base
+90 in temp
+155 from buffs

WS 1058

With 42 shield +5 @ rr6 with mob2 your block rate in rvr is 48,03%

Yrendan you're wrong.

Shadstar you have 59.05%

 

[Yrendan]

Yrendan you're wrong.

Shadstar you have 59.05%

nope I'm not u have not checked alt.dex calculation

 

[Shadster]

nope I'm not u have not checked alt.dex calculation

man any more views on it as dex comes into the blocking also silly came sould just tell u ur blockrate etc

 

[Shadster]

man any more views on it as dex comes into the blocking also silly came sould just tell u ur blockrate etc

just looked at charplan with +5 shield mob2 i got 59.05 with 331 dex any 1 confirm this if so im happy with it

 

[Yrendan]

just looked at charplan with +5 shield mob2 i got 59.05 with 331 dex any 1 confirm this if so im happy with it

u should use alt.dex calculation that shows ur actual block!

 

[Mirt]

The mechanics are rather murky regarding ws vs ws comparison for defense penetration. Some players advocate overcapping defense to counteract ws vs ws and debuffs.

 

[Bahumat]

u should use alt.dex calculation that shows ur actual block!

Is this for everyone? Or certain classes?

 

[Tuthmes]

Your weaponskill affects your chance to hit through their shield.
Their Shield Weaponskill (You cannot see this stat) affects their chance to block.

And in return your weaponskill effects their chance to hit through your shield.
Your weaponskill effects your chance to block.

Some say the bonus to hit for styles only counts in pve, others claim otherwise.

In short, what Mirt say's.

 

[Zerubiel Propane]

-(300 Dex) X 2= 600.

-600-100= 500/40= 12.5.

-12.5 + 35 (assume 50+20 shield) = 47.5.

-47.5 + (for instance MoBlock5) 23%= 70.5.

-70.5 + 5 = 75.5% chance to block.

Note that block chance is no longer 75%.
This is just an example.

Parry is the same.

Try 28 + 15 because we'll assume RR5 and capped parry in your template. Also assume you have 300 DEX.


300 Dex X 2= 600.

-600-100= 500/40= 12.5.

-12.5 + 21.5 (assume 28+15 parry) = 34.

-34 + (for instance MoParry5) 23%= 57.

-57 + 5 = 62% chance to parry.

 

[Kagato]

Pretty much confirmed what I suspected, way to easy to cap parry chance of 50%

I long suspected I was way over the limit but I like it that way to allow for debuffs, shears and other factors.

I just strongly disagree with 'blockings' special treatment.

 

[CorNokZ]

-(300 Dex) X 2= 600.

-600-100= 500/40= 12.5.

-12.5 + 35 (assume 50+20 shield) = 47.5.

-47.5 + (for instance MoBlock5) 23%= 70.5.

-70.5 + 5 = 75.5% chance to block.

Note that block chance is no longer 75%.
This is just an example.

Parry is the same.

Try 28 + 15 because we'll assume RR5 and capped parry in your template. Also assume you have 300 DEX.


300 Dex X 2= 600.

-600-100= 500/40= 12.5.

-12.5 + 21.5 (assume 28+15 parry) = 34.

-34 + (for instance MoParry5) 23%= 57.

-57 + 5 = 62% chance to parry.

Cool fail math there.. Don't quit as a bouncer and tell Sorin I said hi