Bledmeer Tower 3 Duelling session

eggy

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old.Whoodoo said:
Always pointing fingers, there was one member of SH there and a lot of randoms, it wasnt organised at all, they just all turned up together and thought it would be a laff and some fun, to anyones knowledge there was no use of outside comms to arrange anything, so really no one did anything wrong.

Your personal hatred for certain guilds sucks, and your self opinionated way of saying how things in this game "should be" is so hypocritical.

He's just trolling Whoodoo, I wouldn't worry yourself about it.
 

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eble said:
Just last week a guy who let his lvl 50 char get farmed for rp's for a lowbie 'friend' was temp banned and had his RP reset.

I see no difference to this to be honest.

Now if they were fighting/dying and releasing all well and good.

But if they were rezzing its RP farming and they should be temp banned and RP's reset, which might well happen.

Eble

Its hardly RP farming if its proper dueling.

How can you not see the difference between people fighting and earning thier RPs in proper set 1 on 1's, and someone sitting down and getting killed over and over?

I agree the person in your example deserved the ban, but people dueling? its alot different tbh.
 

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eble said:
Just last week a guy who let his lvl 50 char get farmed for rp's for a lowbie 'friend' was temp banned and had his RP reset.

I see no difference to this to be honest.

Now if they were fighting/dying and releasing all well and good.

But if they were rezzing its RP farming and they should be temp banned and RP's reset, which might well happen.

Eble

why?

in long fg-vs-fg fights you get killed and rezzed and rebuffed several times maybe ---> rp farming, isn't it?

in keep defences you park the bb inside to rezz/rebuff your main when you get killed and do it again and again ----> rp farming, isn't it?

and let's not forget iRvR which is rp farming after all, isn't it?

i fail to see how well fought duels can be treated as rp farming, even there is a bb near that can rezz the deads

let's not be hypocrites with double standards
 

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Dukat said:
Its hardly RP farming if its proper dueling.

How can you not see the difference between people fighting and earning thier RPs in proper set 1 on 1's, and someone sitting down and getting killed over and over?

I agree the person in your example deserved the ban, but people dueling? its alot different tbh.


ok I agree one was gaining RP's for an unfair advantage.

But if that group were rezzing thats the same thing really.

I guess it comes down to should duelling be allowed, its against the spirit of the game to gain RP's in that manner.

I mean whats the difference for me and mate to arrange our own duels and test templates on each other, yeah we would be having a laugh but also earning huge amounts of RP's.

its against the COC so I guess thats where we have to leave it.

Eble
 

eble

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anioal said:
why?

in long fg-vs-fg fights you get killed and rezzed and rebuffed several times maybe ---> rp farming, isn't it?

in keep defences you park the bb inside to rezz/rebuff your main when you get killed and do it again and again ----> rp farming, isn't it?

and let's not forget iRvR which is rp farming after all, isn't it?

let's not be hypocrites with double standards

geez calm down guys I was just stating an example of what happ'd last week.

knowing GOA they wont do fuck all anyway.

I'm just saying it was been said before duels are fine aslong as no rezzing takes place.

I wasn't even there and can only go on what people have said and give my views on that.

and no for a fact RP farming has nothing to do with RVR be it IRVR, FG vs FG and the like as the healers are targeted and killed given the chance.

in duels the healers aren't touched so they can rez, unless ofc they are the ones duelling.

Eble
 

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eble said:
ok I agree one was gaining RP's for an unfair advantage.

But if that group were rezzing thats the same thing really.

I guess it comes down to should duelling be allowed, its against the spirit of the game to game RP's in that manner.

I mean whats the difference for me and mate to arrange our own duels and test templates on each other, yeah we would be having a laugh but also earning huge amounts of RP's.

its against the COC so I guess thats where we have to leave it.

Eble

I wouldnt say its against the spirit of the game at all.

People meet up in chance encounters and have 1 on 1's alot of the time, admittedly these encounters are rarer nowadays, but they still happen.

The ressing thing may be a *little* on the cheeky side of things, but like someone else said, people get ressed in Fg v Fg fights and so situations where similarities can be drawn do occur.

I am not going to say that what happens in long fg v fg fights and what was happening in that duel thng are the same, or that the fact that it happens in fg v fg means that it must be ok to do it in the duel situation. I can see the difference between one and the other, but the fact that it doesnt happen very often at all, paired with the fact that lately 1 on 1's have seemed to be very rare, should surely mean that people can just let it go once in a while?

as long as its not happening every other day then whats wrong with it in a one off situation?
 

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Dukat said:
I wouldnt say its against the spirit of the game at all.

People meet up in chance encounters and have 1 on 1's alot of the time, admittedly these encounters are rarer nowadays, but they still happen.

The ressing thing may be a *little* on the cheeky side of things, but like someone else said, people get ressed in Fg v Fg fights and so situations where similarities can be drawn do occur.

I am not going to say that what happens in long fg v fg fights and what was happening in that duel thng are the same, or that the fact that it happens in fg v fg means that it must be ok to do it in the duel situation. I can see the difference between one and the other, but the fact that it doesnt happen very often at all, paired with the fact that lately 1 on 1's have seemed to be very rare, should surely mean that people can just let it go once in a while?

as long as its not happening every other day then whats wrong with it in a one off situation?


apologies the 'against the spirit of the game' comment was from a thread I saw before from Mythic/GOA about it.

I know where your coming from mate, personally I haven't got a problem about it.

But as always show someone a weakness then you will get duels 24/7 all over the place 15yr old RR13 running us down.

Everyone knows if a blind eye is turned to this then, hell why not I've got a few chars I'd like to have fun on in duels and earn great RP's
 

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anioal said:
why?

in long fg-vs-fg fights you get killed and rezzed and rebuffed several times maybe ---> rp farming, isn't it?

in keep defences you park the bb inside to rezz/rebuff your main when you get killed and do it again and again ----> rp farming, isn't it?

and let's not forget iRvR which is rp farming after all, isn't it?

i fail to see how well fought duels can be treated as rp farming, even there is a bb near that can rezz the deads

let's not be hypocrites with double standards


Oke fine, ill log my skald, and agree with some friends that they all log their lvl 50 hib char, i just "duel" them and with my uber skills they will hit me hardly once!
Proper 1 on 1, no rp farm right?

Not like i would report such things but many hypocrites here..
 

anioal

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Calo said:
Oke fine, ill log my skald, and agree with some friends that they all log their lvl 50 hib char, i just "duel" them and with my uber skills they will hit me hardly once!
Proper 1 on 1, no rp farm right?

Not like i would report such things but many hypocrites here..

if you took the time to quote me i asume you noticed the "well fought duels" not the "i will kill you now and then you will kill me too" crap that you try imply
 

anioal

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anyway, this is goin over the top,
but it could be easily solved if GOA will organize weekly or twice per week tournirs
 

Ryuno

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some 1v1 tournaments organised by GOA would be awesome!

Having said that I can't see it happening :(
 

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i don't know what really happeded there but if it's anything like ppl dueling eachother with BB standing unharmed in reach and are allowed to rez then it clearly sounds fishy to me.


anioal said:
why?

in long fg-vs-fg fights you get killed and rezzed and rebuffed several times maybe ---> rp farming, isn't it?

in keep defences you park the bb inside to rezz/rebuff your main when you get killed and do it again and again ----> rp farming, isn't it?

and let's not forget iRvR which is rp farming after all, isn't it?

i fail to see how well fought duels can be treated as rp farming, even there is a bb near that can rezz the deads

let's not be hypocrites with double standards

as i wrote i don't know what happened but what you describe doesn't really compare to what Nosufer is accusing the players of doing. in a fg-vs-fg fight there players rez:ing and rebuffing are involved in the fight (i've never seen a fight where a BB was standing near untouched).

same thing goes with your keep defence comparison. yes, the BB doesn't do anything more than rez:ing, rebuffing and maybe heal abit from time to time, but if a enemy got the chance to kill it, he/she would.

iRvR is closest to this, and really a dreadful thing, but still everything is killed. everytime you run out with a BB to rez you risk it getting killed.

as Nosfer wrote there where mids, hibs and albs + BBs dueling at bleedmeer tower 3, and then rez:ing themselves and dueling again. if the mids had their BBs inside the tower it's all well and good, but i doubt there's a safe place for the hibs and albs to put their BBs. and if they brought their own BB's for rez:ing and rebuffing and nobody attacked them, then i think the should be rightfully banned.

but then again, i don't know what happened and it might only have been mids that had their BB's present and rez:ing.
 

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The buffbots were with the duellers unharmed and rezzing/healing about 2000 range from the tower.
 

eble

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would be great to have the last sunday or something of each month for somthing like that.
 

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Nosufer said:
The buffbots were with the duellers unharmed and rezzing/healing about 2000 range from the tower.


if that was the case I deffo would have RN'd that, just for the fact I was missing out.

:D
 

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Ryuno said:
some 1v1 tournaments organised by GOA would be awesome!

Having said that I can't see it happening :(

Wonder how many of these "duellers" would turn up if GoA said 'Ok we run tournaments. Once per week at XXX. However while here you can not gain any RP's because this is not what the game designed around'

I predict at least half the people wouldnt go because it isnt good fights they want. They just dont want to be zerged while gaining rps
 

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Corran said:
Wonder how many of these "duellers" would turn up if GoA said 'Ok we run tournaments. Once per week at XXX. However while here you can not gain any RP's because this is not what the game designed around'

I predict at least half the people wouldnt go because it isnt good fights they want. They just dont want to be zerged while gaining rps


If I wanted as many RPs as possible I would not run solo, it's simple as that.

It isn't like I don't give a shit about RPs, but I want a reward when actually kill someone 1vs1.
 

anioal

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pjuppe said:
i don't know what really happeded there but if it's anything like ppl dueling eachother with BB standing unharmed in reach and are allowed to rez then it clearly sounds fishy to me.




as i wrote i don't know what happened but what you describe doesn't really compare to what Nosufer is accusing the players of doing. in a fg-vs-fg fight there players rez:ing and rebuffing are involved in the fight (i've never seen a fight where a BB was standing near untouched).

same thing goes with your keep defence comparison. yes, the BB doesn't do anything more than rez:ing, rebuffing and maybe heal abit from time to time, but if a enemy got the chance to kill it, he/she would.

iRvR is closest to this, and really a dreadful thing, but still everything is killed. everytime you run out with a BB to rez you risk it getting killed.

as Nosfer wrote there where mids, hibs and albs + BBs dueling at bleedmeer tower 3, and then rez:ing themselves and dueling again. if the mids had their BBs inside the tower it's all well and good, but i doubt there's a safe place for the hibs and albs to put their BBs. and if they brought their own BB's for rez:ing and rebuffing and nobody attacked them, then i think the should be rightfully banned.

but then again, i don't know what happened and it might only have been mids that had their BB's present and rez:ing.


nowhere in a rvr zone you are safe, all the duelers and their buffbots could be killed on-sight by any 'passing by' fg

i wasn't there, but i'm gettin sick at all the "RP farmers, let's burn them mates!!!" yells when it comes about duels.
 

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Why do peps care about stuff like this, if some peps like to have a few fights it's not rp pl is it ? Not like you get alot of rps from an rs person.
Just sad fuckers who can't win an 1v1 fight that qq's about stuff like this.
( I wasn't with when this happened btw but sounds like it was fun.)
 

pjuppe

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anioal said:
nowhere in a rvr zone you are safe, all the duelers and their buffbots could be killed on-sight by any 'passing by' fg

i wasn't there, but i'm gettin sick at all the "RP farmers, let's burn them mates!!!" yells when it comes about duels.

inside the walls of a friendly keep, inside the relic gates or at the friendly portalkeeps are rather safe. weather or not the buffbots can be killed by a passing fg doesn't matter, the issue is that if the players in place just let their opponents rez and buff up they are in my oppinion rp farming.

although i agree that random duels in general have very little to do with rp farming.
 

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