Black people, what can't they do?

Ch3tan

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EQ;
Also, not getting annoyed doesn't give you the right to throw racial remarks, or not knowing about them. "I don't get annoyed by black people shouting cracker at me, so i can call them what i want". Doesn't work like that.


You what now? I don't get annoyed by racial slurs if they are meant in jest or between friends, and have no problem handing them back out.

Maybe you live in a very white area, and are overly sensitive about things like this, I don't know, but you come across like someone who has little experience of actual racism or dealing everyday with people of different races.
 

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God gave a black baby some wings, the baby asked god, "does this mean I'm an Angel?" God looked at the baby and laughed, " N**g* please, you a bat".
 

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You what now? I don't get annoyed by racial slurs if they are meant in jest or between friends, and have no problem handing them back out.

Maybe you live in a very white area, and are overly sensitive about things like this, I don't know, but you come across like someone who has little experience of actual racism or dealing everyday with people of different races.

Not actually what i said.

I said that not getting annoyed by racial slurs doesn't give you the right to dish them out.

Ofcourse you CAN, but it's still as wrong.

In other words; if someone calls you a cracker, it doesn't mean you can call them the N word.

Time to get off that imaginary high horse of yours.

What high horse excatly?

Can't believe people are actually arguing with me when i say racial slurs aren't ok :eek6:
 

Ch3tan

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Not actually what i said.

I said that not getting annoyed by racial slurs doesn't give you the right to dish them out.

Ofcourse you CAN, but it's still as wrong.

In other words; if someone calls you a cracker, it doesn't mean you can call them the N word.

Yes it does, if someone calls me a paki **** I will call them a black bastard or a cracker whore, or a multitude of other slurs. I may not do it in anger, it depends on the situation - it could just be jokes between friends.

I often tell my mate I am going to dress in white robes and burn him on a cross on his lawn, he tells me to pull the cord on my vest and get it over with. No harm done.

What is your issue with me doing this, it harms no one.
 

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Jokes between friends is different.

You know it's not meant as a bad thing.

If someone calls you a paki bastard, he's a moron(givent that it's someone you don't know).

You in return calling him something is no better.

Hope that clears it.
 

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You think it's no better, it makes me feel better, so I do not see the downside.
 

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Yes they do, it's a racial stereotype that all black people like fried chicken.

If I ever venture into Southend the trains every so often smell of chicken. The reason is people eat KFC on the train and it stinks the place out.
Not always, but usually it's black people eating it on the train so I think this stereotype does have some proof to it.

I originally thought "well maybe that family did not have much money and wanted a cheap take-away". Nothing wrong with that, but it's rarely McDonalds or Burger King. Seems to almost always be KFC.

I hope I don't offend anyone with this post, it's not meant to but i'm just passing on what I've seen.
 

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I never said it was racist, I said it was a racial stereotype. The same as the ones you mentioned are racial stereotypes.

Nor did I say anything about the thread.

Also Toht, I think you miss the point, black people really do love kfc, and morleys etc. But mainly kfc. Fried chicken, Jerk chicken etc. I'll take a picture of my local kfc for you sometime. I think the ration is usually 8 black customers to 1 one white and 1 asian.

I asked myself earlier "why KFC over McDonalds or Burger King". Maybe it's a cultural thing? Jerk Chicken is known all over the world so maybe in the predominantly black countries they have more chickens, so eat more chickens? or maybe they cost less etc?

Either way most people in England know about Raggae Raggae sauce which is great on chicken. That guy was backed on Dragons Den and it's doing really well.

Where our great grand parents would eat fish and chips on a friday, maybe the older black generations preferred chicken. With feeding their kids chicken more often than other foods, it'd make sense why they eat more.
 

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Erm, did you guys not do RE at school to get a basic understanding of other religions and their core beliefs?

Pigs are considered dirty, the same way cows are considered holy for Hindu's. They don't eat them because their religion tells them it is wrong to, nothing more to it.

Didn't they prove pigs were one of the cleanest animals?
 

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Just pop into a local Nando's the majority of customer, are not white. They just love god damn chicken.
 

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People should not be put off (or scared off) from asking genuine, innocent questions about other people, for example I would like to know why muslims and jews don't eat pork but I am a bit nervious of asking this question...

Apparently they are the dirtiest animal, therefor they don't eat it. As I said we have been talking a lot about it and this is pretty much their only answer.

Not that 100% true I daresay =) It is a huge but common misconception, that the holy texts say "thou shalt not eat pig". In Leviticus 3,11 (NKJ version) you'll find a list of different biological features of clean and unclean animals. There are some examples and some species are specified as unclean, but generally it's more of a "list of features".

This is for Christianity of course, but the Jews use the same five books of Moses in their Thora. I don't know about Muslims, but I bet it's similar for them.

Just pop into a local Nando's the majority of customer, are not white. They just love god damn chicken.

It might be some kind of cultural thing, though. I love food from turkish takeaways, but maybe it's because it's something foreign, something new/strange/etc. If I had that all day long, I might eat something else, who knows =)
 

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Some of you crackers are hyper sensitive about talking about race - it's such a shame that openly talking about race is so risque to some people in contemporary society.
 

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PS. They also don't eat predators (except fish, don't ask me why).

We can eat fish but not all types, anything that has scales is ok, no scales and we cant eat it. Prawns etc are also not acceptable.

Regarding predators, i just assumed that this is not just a Muslim thing as i have never heard anyone say that they wish to eat a lion for example or a tiger or any other type of predator.

I spent 8 months out in Zambia many years ago and the best part of two months in the bush hunting with my friends and trust me they never ever ate anything that was predatory, though they did eat a lot of other really strange stuff.
 

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Turtles are abominations!

‘These you may eat of all that are in the water: whatever in the water has fins and scales, whether in the seas or in the rivers—that you may eat. 10 But all in the seas or in the rivers that do not have fins and scales, all that move in the water or any living thing which is in the water, they are an abomination to you. 11 They shall be an abomination to you; you shall not eat their flesh, but you shall regard their carcasses as an abomination. 12 Whatever in the water does not have fins or scales—that shall be an abomination to you.
 

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Oh and FYI; white people(in general lost the whole racism card with the whole slavery thing, sorry :p

Um..wrong, I never took anyone into slavery. If you want to use that as an argument then how the hell do we stand with Germans?? You wouldn’t (or shouldn’t tbh) continue to blame them in this generation for what happened to the Jews in the war, I see no difference and people who do use slavery as an argument in this day and age make me furious it’s like people banging on about the crusades… I’m sorry but no one who undertook or suffered from them is alive now, a line must be drawn somewhere.


PS. They also don't eat predators (except fish, don't ask me why).

Actually, thinking about it neither do most other people, odd.

Erm, did you guys not do RE at school to get a basic understanding of other religions and their core beliefs?

Rofl no actually, where I grew up we had like 2 black people (tiiiny isolated town, very ‘deliverance’ lots of actual racist remarks tossed about in public and it was considered to be ‘OK’. My RE lessons were: Christianity…Christianity…Christianity!

In fact (honestly here) I actually just thought muslim was a form of material up until I was like 20 and started reading Wilbur smith books. I swear when I moved to bournemouth I was totally agog at all the different types of people who lived there, I love it (even though it is actually still in comparison to big places rather piddling).
 

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This is for Christianity of course, but the Jews use the same five books of Moses in their Thora. I don't know about Muslims, but I bet it's similar for them.

So tell me when you find something about Muslims then ;)


We can eat fish but not all types, anything that has scales is ok, no scales and we cant eat it. Prawns etc are also not acceptable.

Regarding predators, i just assumed that this is not just a Muslim thing as i have never heard anyone say that they wish to eat a lion for example or a tiger or any other type of predator.

I spent 8 months out in Zambia many years ago and the best part of two months in the bush hunting with my friends and trust me they never ever ate anything that was predatory, though they did eat a lot of other really strange stuff.

Actually, thinking about it neither do most other people, odd.

Yes most people don't eat predators. When you neglect that something like 90% of the fish we eat are predators. Difference is tho (afaik) is that its forbidden to eat predators for Muslims (correct me if I'm wrong?). I wouldn't mind eating predators, i think the main problem for us western countries is that breeding predators is a lot harder than breeding Cows for example. I also believe (from what i heard) that most predators have a very chewy meat since it's a lot more muscles usually than non-predatory animals. I would love a bear steak for dinner if someone offered me it, or maybe a roasted fox! :)
 

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Since we are talking about muslims (damn those muslims) and jews (damn those...jews). I know a few muslims, whom think that the whole not being able to eat pork business is just bullshit, and i have to agree with them. They also make fun of other muslims whom they go out and eat with that don't eat pork and other food due to religion :D
 

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Yes I think what your food eats does effect how it tastes, look at corn fed chicked for example, they actually go yellow. Also, there is that beef (Kobe I think it is spelled?) from Japan where they do some thing with the grass (I dunno, water it in fairy piddle or something) and massage the cows to keep them relaxed and stress free...the they kill them and we eat them but the beef is supposed to be really tender and it is very expensive.

Also, I think I read that carnivores have certain bacteria in the meat that is not good for you, whereas the bacteria are reduced in omnivores (pigs) and either barely there or non existant in herbivores. However, why this should be different to fish I don't know; maybe it is because fish have a different method of digesting/assymilating their food to mammels?


Ooh and now that I think about it, itn't there a type or parasite that humans get if they eat other humans...but then (and this is veering slightly back on topic...sorry) there were certain tribes that still partook in cannibalism up until quite recently in papua new guinea I believe (although I have seen footage of an African revolt in like the 80s where this guy ate the liver of someone on the opposite side) so I wonder if there is a relation between the parasite and black/white people because cannibalism happens or happened in all races afaik but it certainly makes white people doolally.
 

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OK example of what chinese people cannot do!

They cannot write instructions lol, I just opened some new ginger tea I got from an asian grocery market and look at this:

"LE ER FU ginger tea is a pure and nautral drink which is made form the essence of high quality ginger and bee honey by modern biologic science with extra care. Being a necessity for both travelling consuming and home using, it is the best choice for people of all ages in the four seasons"

Ooookay...

then we have the instructions!

Directions: take one bag into a cup, pour 200ml in hot or cold water and stir.

The chinese, they cannot write directions
unless it is in haiku.
 

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Turtles are abominations!

‘These you may eat of all that are in the water: whatever in the water has fins and scales, whether in the seas or in the rivers—that you may eat. 10 But all in the seas or in the rivers that do not have fins and scales, all that move in the water or any living thing which is in the water, they are an abomination to you. 11 They shall be an abomination to you; you shall not eat their flesh, but you shall regard their carcasses as an abomination. 12 Whatever in the water does not have fins or scales—that shall be an abomination to you.

i know its slightly of topic but does it explain why they are abominations? and how they came to that decesion?
 

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