Bit of advice please

[caling]

Just been reading through the mincer thread and no doubt my question has been posted somewhere else.

What should a Mincer be looking to achieve in a template?

And what artis would you never leave home without?

Nice and simple.

Will Keep me occupied this afternoon at work.

Cheers

Caling

 

[rampant]

arti wise - malice, battler, cyclops shield, shades of mist, gov, mad scalars, ceremonial bracer (not really essential!)


oops forgot phoebus harp...

 

[Baldrian]

Never leave without:
Malice
Scalars
SoM
GoV

Nice if they fit you(your template):
Phoebus(for the instrument mostly)
Crocs Ring
CB or GoLM(prefer golm myself) for the mezzblocker
Battler for the charge.
Cyclops shield(some say its nice, I dont have it or want it)

Temp wise I gather you are Slash?
Then cap Str/Qui/Cha/Hits/Con/slash/stealth and resists. and get some Dex if you wanna be mezzcaster.

 

[Ckiller]

why dont ppl like harpy cloak i think ppl underestimate the "charges" on it

 

[Baldrian]

why dont ppl like harpy cloak i think ppl underestimate the "charges" on it

For a tank, maybe. Dunno how good the charge is, looks nice.

But for a stealther I would prefer SoM any day. Simply more utility.
+ Harpy have +4 parry which mincer cant use.

If its a nonstealth mincer Harpy could be ok, at least its easier to get.

 

[Ckiller]

+ Harpy have +4 parry which mincer cant use.

Aah tr00 dat

 

[Baldrian]

Aah tr00 dat

I say fing should put harpy on his Melee Cleric.

 

[Golena]

I don't believe not one person has mentioned winged helm.
The level 10 charge is probably one of the best anti-assasin abilities in the game.

 

[pbaz]

Agree with Golena - strange that WH hasn't been mentioned.

If we are talking about "must have" artis for a minstrel they are:

1 - Croc Tear Ring. Crazily high utility. Radiant Aura. And 5% damage conversion (ie an extra, free 4% to all your resists over and above cap). Any class that gets access to this item must have it in their template.

2 - SoM & WH. Mincer combat can go on for quite some time due to relatively poor DPS. To survive, you need these items to decrease the damage dealt to you by the enemy. They complement each other nicely - one of them should always be up.

3 - Malice & Battler. OK, Malice isn't well designed for mincers - we lose the benefit of the +hits and +hitscap because we swap to the weapon from an instrument. But that proc and arrogance just make it too good to pass up on. Battler should be on your back for the charge.

4 - Phoebus Harp. Don't keep the necklace in your main template (use ACN, of course). But to allow you to put Battler on your back, you need to be using the Etheral Harp as your only instrument.

In my opinion, these are the most useful artis for a mincer and should be in every template, everything else is just gravy. (Personally, I also use GoV and Scalars for the melee bonuses).

 

[Eeben]

Agree with Golena - strange that WH hasn't been mentioned.

If we are talking about "must have" artis for a minstrel they are:

1 - Croc Tear Ring. Crazily high utility. Radiant Aura. And 5% damage conversion (ie an extra, free 4% to all your resists over and above cap). Any class that gets access to this item must have it in their template.
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util is 50 ^^ an aoe aura doesnt help you at all.. maybe the damage conversion but i would rather use bane's an zahur or demon ring so get higher util template... but guess thats just me

 

[pbaz]

util is 50 ^^ an aoe aura doesnt help you at all.. maybe the damage conversion but i would rather use bane's an zahur or demon ring so get higher util template... but guess thats just me

You are only considering the stats on the ring itself...

Damage conversion is equal to the following:

+4% Body, +4% Spirit, +4% Slash, +4% Matter, +4% Crush, .....etc!

Now go take the listed ring stats, add in all those extra +4% to every resist and recalculate the utility (I forget what it comes out as, but it's in the region of a 120). Quite simply, it's the highest util item available in game.

Agree that the radiant aura is not a major selling point. Also agree that your other ring should be one of the high util ones that you list, whichever fits your template (I use Bane's).

 

[rampant]

radiant aura is great for pve tho -esp when mincer is out of group