best team in prem when players are on their day!

Which team-take away consistancy and form etc

  • Arsenal

    Votes: 21 36.8%
  • Chelski

    Votes: 7 12.3%
  • man-glory supporter united

    Votes: 18 31.6%
  • Scouserpool

    Votes: 11 19.3%

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J s p

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LOL

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All divers in their time at Arse. I'm sure there are a few more.
 

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Calaen said:
lol come on Soze I tend to remember Rooneys first ever goal against Arsenal, or his Hatrick in his champions league debut, or his volley against Newcastle, or his.... it is all the good stuff. Its not like Adebayor and Alliadiere did not dive yesterday :p the difference is the quality of player.

You are talking to an Arse fan, who all follow Wengers philosphy of "sorry, I didnt see the incident" when one of their players dives, or commits a foul, yet squeal like a pig if a decision goes against their players :D
 

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You are talking to an Arse fan, who all follow Wengers philosphy of "sorry, I didnt see the incident" when one of their players dives, or commits a foul, yet squeal like a pig if a decision goes against their players :D

Spot on there m8.
 

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Marc said:
LOL See what I mean! Always an excuse. Rooney diving

Oh and for the record, Arse will never be as big a club as united or Liverpool. No one outside of Europe knows who Arsenal are. Its not all about who has the most money
Arsenal have a huge following in Asia so try again mate buying Inamoto assured the biggest growing football market knew who we were

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LOL See what I mean! Always an excuse. Rooney diving

That one was on purpose but that dose not mean it was not a dive :p
 

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Calaen said:
lol come on Soze I tend to remember Rooneys first ever goal against Arsenal, or his Hatrick in his champions league debut, or his volley against Newcastle, or his.... it is all the good stuff. Its not like Adebayor and Alliadiere did not dive yesterday :p the difference is the quality of player.
It was a joke i think Rooney will be a quality player its scary to think that he could get better and one day score 30 of that kind of goal a season. Scary for a Arsenal fan not a Mank mind you :)
 

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Marc said:
You are talking to an Arse fan, who all follow Wengers philosphy of "sorry, I didnt see the incident" when one of their players dives, or commits a foul, yet squeal like a pig if a decision goes against their players :D

J s p said:
Spot on there m8.

Have either of you two ever been to a football game or watched one on TV? every 50 50 is shouted for every ball that hits the away teams chest is called for handball and no when a Arsenal player kicks some one there are 55 000 people who did not see it :p its the same at every gound i just seem to be able to laugh about it more than you :)

J s p said:
LOL

Reyes
Pires
Eboue
Henry
Viera

All divers in their time at Arse. I'm sure there are a few more.

So Henry and Eboue are Arsenals only divers now nice of you to admit we have got rid of the problem. Now if you get rid of Ronaldo you might have less dives than us but untill then do not talk about other clubs and diving ;)
 

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soze said:
It was a joke i think Rooney will be a quality player its scary to think that he could get better and one day score 30 of that kind of goal a season. Scary for a Arsenal fan not a Mank mind you :)


Its good for the game :) I love watching Henry play, I miss not seeing Pires he was very under rated and a fucking quality player. He is also a great example of a predominantly right footed player playing on the left wing and still skinning defenders all day every day.
 

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Its good for the game :) I love watching Henry play, I miss not seeing Pires he was very under rated and a fucking quality player. He is also a great example of a predominantly right footed player playing on the left wing and still skinning defenders all day every day.
Was a shame he tore his Cruciate in pre season for his new club and still has not made a competative appearance :( I always rated bobby too. I think the only midfielder in recent times to out score Lampard?
 

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soze said:
Have either of you two ever been to a football game or watched one on TV? every 50 50 is shouted for every ball that hits the away tears chest is called for handball and no when a Arsenal player kicks some one there are 55 000 people who did not see it :p its the same at every gound i just seem to be able to laugh about it more than you :)

We are talking about your manager, who always seems to miss the incident of his player diving, but likes to squeal when a decision goes against his team.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y20IzlwsKu8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYHjLSYiWGA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zp7bZf-wNQk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz_mgHPvuBU

Cheating southern shandies :D
 

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Marc said:
We are talking about your manager, who always seems to miss the incident of his player diving, but likes to squeal when a decision goes against his team.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y20IzlwsKu8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYHjLSYiWGA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zp7bZf-wNQk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz_mgHPvuBU

Cheating southern shandies :D
Again every manager beside Stuart Pearce :p do that its jus most say i will have to watch the tape again befor i can comment. Do they ever come back and say "yeah my player took a dive that cheeky fucker!" do they bollocks its just Wenger dose not know he English for "I will not incriminate my player" so says i did not see it. :p
 

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soze said:
Again every manager beside Stuart Pearce :p do that its jus most say i will have to watch the tape again befor i can comment. Do they ever come back and say "yeah my player took a dive that cheeky fucker!" do they bollocks its just Wenger dose not know he English for "I will not incriminate my player" so says i did not see it. :p

Like the time he defended his players in the "battle of old trafford"? Even after seeing the replays?
 

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Like the time he defended his players in the "battle of old trafford"? Even after seeing the replays?
Yeah again the same as every other manager, Hardly any manager will jump up and say yeah my players a naughty boy please ban him for as long as possible. Sheffield Uniteds captin punched Van Persie in the gut did Warnock say i do not know how the ref missed that but i think the video pannel should watch it because my player deserves a ban! That would be a no.
 

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Im a loyal man utd fan, but on their day Chelsea will tear any team in the Premiership apart, impossible to score vs them, and with there best playing 4-3-3 out they are always gunna score goals...
 

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Aile said:
Im a loyal man utd fan, but on their day Chelsea will tear any team in the Premiership apart, impossible to score vs them, and with there best playing 4-3-3 out they are always gunna score goals...

Simple fact is that Chelsea no longer play 4 3 3 so it does not count :)

I am alot more confident about winning the league, I would have bridge over cole everyday of the week because he suit the team style better. Right back is dodgy, no cover in centre of defence, to many centre midfielders being giving a game.

I know Man Utd have been fantastic this season going forward, but Arsenal are the team to watch on their day because they play dream football. one touch football which is truely sublime.
 

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Noones argueing Arsenal play the most attractive football, but as soon as a team gets really psyical with them, they are a shadow of what they can be.. and I think Chelsea at their best would beat Arsenal at their best, due to pure effectiveness, Chelsea have better players in every single position except for Henry and their ability to play either quick passing, running or long ball football would in the end prove the difference..

But as for Man utd on their day, I think they have the bigger players in the bigger games when they show up, noone can control a game like an onform scholes, noone can terrorise a defence like Ronaldo and we are all very aware of what Wayne Rooney can do when hes up for a game
 

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The reason Chelsea haven't played 4-3-3 much this season is both of our best wingers have been out for large parts of the season :p
 

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The reason Chelsea haven't played 4-3-3 much this season is both of our best wingers have been out for large parts of the season :p

what a load of bullshit lol :p

ur playing a 4 men midfiend cuz of ur new signings, so that u can fit lamps,make,essien and ballack in a midfield as they are jose's specials or whatever. Chelsea are a skum to the premiership, they shuld play decent footie with that amount of money to invest, no respect for jose if he cant atleast make a team play with beautiful footie. If u saw sum1 like arsene wenger at chelsea u wuld prolly see the best football team ever to grace Europe given a few teams, with playstyle such as barca/arsenal but with all world class players.
 

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I don't know where you got that from mate, Lampard has scored more goals than Pires in every season since 2001 bar once, by quite a large margin too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Pirès#Club_career

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Lampard

Yeah sorry i was not clear i did not mean consistantly i just meant that one season. It always sticks in my head because it was really the year Lapard love started. Every one saying hes the best thing since Beckham scores silly amounts of goal and is great. And then a french man that runs like a penguin scores more :p I would not compare the two do not get me wrong but like i say i think he is the only midfielder to get near fat frank even if it was only one year.

Arsenal are working on playing hard teams so fingers crossed :) Like Sunday at the start of the seson if a team had scored and but 10 behind the ball would we have scored? Nope you can't one touch all the way through 10 players thats why we are crossing it now. And in the end on Sunday i though Bolton were lucky to hold on to a draw. And i hope we win we have already put six past blackburn at the Emirates i want to go for double figures over a season :p
 

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what a load of bullshit lol :p

ur playing a 4 men midfiend cuz of ur new signings, so that u can fit lamps,make,essien and ballack in a midfield as they are jose's specials or whatever. Chelsea are a skum to the premiership, they shuld play decent footie with that amount of money to invest, no respect for jose if he cant atleast make a team play with beautiful footie. If u saw sum1 like arsene wenger at chelsea u wuld prolly see the best football team ever to grace Europe given a few teams, with playstyle such as barca/arsenal but with all world class players.

Remove your tongue from wengers pert bum cheeks for 5 seconds and think of this.

We haven't been able to play our best front 3 (Cole Drogba Robben) for a perfectly good reason. They haven't all been match fit at the same time this season. So that kinda makes it hard for Chelsea to play their sexy football (when you see Robben on the ball that is always sexy :cool:). When you've got 2 second rate wingers (Swp & Kalou) of which neither can comfortably play on either wing as with Cole & Robben, why not play 4 in midfield?. It obviously works, it might not be the most interesting football but it works.

When you see Cole & Robben return to match fitness, which won't be until next season with the stress fracture Cole has, you'll see some better football. Drop Ballack, try Sheva playing behind Drogba a bit then he's got service from both flanks and midfield = win.
 

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what a load of bullshit lol :p

ur playing a 4 men midfiend cuz of ur new signings, so that u can fit lamps,make,essien and ballack in a midfield as they are jose's specials or whatever. Chelsea are a skum to the premiership, they shuld play decent footie with that amount of money to invest, no respect for jose if he cant atleast make a team play with beautiful footie. If u saw sum1 like arsene wenger at chelsea u wuld prolly see the best football team ever to grace Europe given a few teams, with playstyle such as barca/arsenal but with all world class players.

lol you make me laugh

So in order to be successful its all about playing beautiful football?? No respect to Jose? A man who won the champions league with a team no where near the class of Arse. Jose, Fergy and Benitez, all won the champions league because they are "great" managers.
 

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lol you make me laugh

So in order to be successful its all about playing beautiful football?? No respect to Jose? A man who won the champions league with a team no where near the class of Arse. Jose, Fergy and Benitez, all won the champions league because they are "great" managers.

im saying with all the money at his disposle he could have made an equally great team but atleast have it playing attractive football, teams like Bolton blackburn and everton have an excuse to play that type of footie. but when u have teams like reading who play more beautful footie and are more fun to watch then chelsea it does kinda take the piss and make u think. Ofc jose is a good manager but he shuld make his team more exciting.

And earlier in the season when robben and other wingers have been available get i renember jose sticking with essien,ballack,lampard,makalale,shev,drog when countless wingers were available including robben.
 

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You're missing the point. Our two top class wingers; J.Cole and Robben have not been at match fitness together. The introduction of those two into a game will completely change the flow of it.

You can say all you like about playing attractive, beautifiul football, but in reality it doesn't bring in the results required to be at the top of the league. Chelsea don't play the most exciting football at times, but when you win 2 league titles back to back and are still very much in the running for a 3rd, who's to argue?.

Arsenal's football is aesthetically pleasing but the consistency isn't quite there yet, which is reflected in a number of their results this season.
 

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Remove your tongue from wengers pert bum cheeks for 5 seconds and think of this.

We haven't been able to play our best front 3 (Cole Drogba Robben) for a perfectly good reason. They haven't all been match fit at the same time this season. So that kinda makes it hard for Chelsea to play their sexy football (when you see Robben on the ball that is always sexy :cool:). When you've got 2 second rate wingers (Swp & Kalou) of which neither can comfortably play on either wing as with Cole & Robben, why not play 4 in midfield?. It obviously works, it might not be the most interesting football but it works.

When you see Cole & Robben return to match fitness, which won't be until next season with the stress fracture Cole has, you'll see some better football. Drop Ballack, try Sheva playing behind Drogba a bit then he's got service from both flanks and midfield = win.

Ballack is never going to be dropped. Swp is a perfectly fine winger, Chelsea have just wrecked him. Drogba is not effective up front on his own a centre midfielder should not be outscoring a striker. I think his goals this season have shown that he needs to play along side another striker.
 

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You're missing the point. Our two top class wingers; J.Cole and Robben have not been at match fitness together. The introduction of those two into a game will completely change the flow of it.

You can say all you like about playing attractive, beautifiul football, but in reality it doesn't bring in the results required to be at the top of the league. Chelsea don't play the most exciting football at times, but when you win 2 league titles back to back and are still very much in the running for a 3rd, who's to argue?.

Arsenal's football is aesthetically pleasing but the consistency isn't quite there yet, which is reflected in a number of their results this season.

yep we lack consistancy atm, but the best team in the history of the premiership was the Invincibles who played the most beautiful football also. Like in spain the best team is Barcalona who play incredibly attractive footie, its a poor excuse to say it doesnt work, its just 1 way to get there.
 

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yep we lack consistancy atm, but the best team in the history of the premiership was the Invincibles who played the most beautiful football also. Like in spain the best team is Barcalona who play incredibly attractive footie, its a poor excuse to say it doesnt work, its just 1 way to get there.

You cannot actually say the best team in the hostory of the premiership because that would certainly be Man Utd. The amount trophies they have won since the premiership started is miles away from anyone else. I would take a treble winning season every year over a unbeaten league run.

It was a great achievement by Arsenal, no doubting that but it certainly does not make them the best team in the history of the premiership.
 

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You cannot actually say the best team in the hostory of the premiership because that would certainly be Man Utd. The amount trophies they have won since the premiership started is miles away from anyone else. I would take a treble winning season every year over a unbeaten league run.

It was a great achievement by Arsenal, no doubting that but it certainly does not make them the best team in the history of the premiership.

i would say the team that for 1 season was totally unbeaten and had 49 win streak would be the best team that graced the premiership in any season. over the history man utd ar emost sucsessful ofc but any man utd team that won it wasnt as good as the invincibles in that single season.
 

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lol typical Utd and Arsenal fans. Think football was only invented when the premiership started :D 80s liverpool team > Utd and Arse teams of the 90s/00s
 

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