Best RvR Shaman spec

[Hoodini]

btw all of ya 46cave 4 teh win... have ANY of you actuelly played in anything but pickupgrps wich.. imo anyway.. stinks (no offence i know u can find good pickupgrps but realy hard.)

dont mean to piss anyone off but commenting on a post like this wich is kinda serius cause it concerns this guys future spec and not realy knowing what ur talking about stinks bigtime imho.

 

[viruz_bs]

Works fine with our RvR guild grps, so its good with me!

Viruz /out.

 

[Randalff]

Originally posted by Mundokar
havent tested it myself but i heard a warrior from my guild grumble when he didnt have endreg high enough to slam fulltime

even end regen 5 isn't enough to slam fulltime... don't want to be slam bot either

 

[agon]

Originally posted by Hoodini
btw all of ya 46cave 4 teh win... have ANY of you actuelly played in anything but pickupgrps wich.. imo anyway.. stinks (no offence i know u can find good pickupgrps but realy hard.)

dont mean to piss anyone off but commenting on a post like this wich is kinda serius cause it concerns this guys future spec and not realy knowing what ur talking about stinks bigtime imho.

i had this in mind but somehow failed to write it
if there are two shammies, one of them with end3 and the other one with end4 - guess who i would pick? end 4 or 5 doesn't really matter that much.. i would just pick the one who plays their class best. i hate to have an end3 shammy in group when i play zerker because i'm ooe way too fast.. besides, the shammy won't probably survive long since he can't perma sprint

but as sad as it is, 46 cave shammies aren't that attractive for groups

 

[Hoodini]

Originally posted by viruz_bs
Works fine with our RvR guild grps, so its good with me!

Viruz /out.

haha

no offence mate but i been in black shadows and it aint exactly like they do alot of rvr

 

[Ulme]

Originally posted by viruz_bs
46 cave (best ae dot)
22aug (end reg 3)
17 mend (rest)

Source duskwave (Sat, 23 Aug 2003, 13:14:49 GMT): Viruz MooCow, Black Shadows, rp 4,594, lvl 40, class shaman.

hmmmm, you say you're lvl 41, well 1 lvl since saturday is possible....but isn't it hard to have 46 in cave at that lvl ?
imho lvl 41 works best NOT at all in rvr

 

[viruz_bs]

Originally posted by Hoodini
haha

no offence mate but i been in black shadows and it aint exactly like they do alot of rvr

So what if we arent , we got enugh RP's - And when we are in RvR we own pretty good.
Guess what , none of us know u by that name , mabey tell us ur main name?

Viruz /out.

 

[levelone]

The best Shaman spec i think is

Kobold Shamna as i am Playing got the spec of.

Mend 14

Aug 32

Cave 41

And it works Yber for me even if i have to spend 1 point for Perma sprint(Long Wind).

 

[Rhuric]

I would say the main reason for getting end 5 instead of end 4 is the perma sprint thing, cause ppl are to lazy or to cheap to spend 1 point on getting LW1, Perma sprint is marvoulus in rvr, you run 1 fg, see 2 fgs infront of you, you can turn and outrun them cause hibs dont often have 2 bards in group, and pallys can run there end chant forever (without high power regen) and in my experience they dont even follow you cause they know you will outrun them.

But sure, I wouldnt mind having a high cave shammy aswell, but I sure think high aug is a must for a grouping shammy that aint often in keep defence/seiges + high cave shammys tend to use there aoe dot and when they do they have a very mad group yelling at em cause when you have dotted it is very pointless trying to do any form of CC on the enemys while they are dotted (and afaik, shammy dots have the longest time ticking, 20s?, and in fg vs fg that is a hell of a long time)

 

[Kindar]

Originally posted by Kallio
42aug/31cave/13mend

That´s a good spec for RvR shammy, gives you end 5 and all 16% resists buffs. And kindar, there´s no point going 18 mend take 32 aug and 14 mends instead of that spec.

I specced from 22mending to 13mending... havent noticed a real difference in my healing power.

The reason i took 18 mend was the better rezz, but too for a higher spec heal. Thats good for both pve and rvr imo. I normally spec my chars to both pve and rvr, not just one of em....that sucks imo.
The only reason to go higher in aug is end....for permasprint, nothing else. End3 is enough to use styles all the time....you gotta have some nasty ass attack speed to wear the end down.
Its ok for my warrior with a spd 4 weapon.

 

[agon]

Originally posted by Kindar
The only reason to go higher in aug is end....for permasprint, nothing else. End3 is enough to use styles all the time....you gotta have some nasty ass attack speed to wear the end down.
Its ok for my warrior with a spd 4 weapon.

are you serious? with end3 i go ooe fast (i assume you were talking about rvr and not pve)
no way end3 is enough, since you will chase ppl or get chased (depending on what class you play) and with end3 you don't sprint that far.
also, you're wrong when you say the only reason to go higher in aug is because of end.. don't forget to mention resists

 

[aucard]

ppl without LW1 are gimps. not the shammys.

 

[Kindar]

well...its prolly cuase i don't keep chasing people in rvr. If the target runs away, then i take another. Although...if its a caster or healer i just run normally. They run out of end themself quickly too.

 

[Weeping Willow]

Speccing higher cave than 27 or 31 doesn't contribute anything to the group while permasprint does really make a difference. Not all people take long wind 1

I don't want to play a char I don't like to play but speccing a char gimped isn't fun.

 

[phule_gubben]

Re: Re: Why be a buffbot?

Originally posted by agon
i got 46 in aug, so i am a wannabe buffbot?
the _only_ good/usable thing for normal 1fg vs 1fg you get from very high cave is better ae root and pbae disease. ae dot is not used often in normal rvr. and i got 27 cave, so i got both pbae disease and ae root.
now let's take a look at my aug.. i got best heat and cold resist, best end, and even red str/con buff. i sure as hell help my group more than any other 46 cave specced shammy.

so all you who say that high aug is for wannabe buffbots, go and get a clue. i already got a zerker if i feel for making dmg, but when i play shammy i like to help my group which i sadly must say i wouldn't do as good if i had 46 cave.

46 cave is best spec when you defend your relics or keeps, but that's about it..

yeye, these are my opinions but i guess most rvr shammies agree with me

edit: i didn't mean that most ppl agree with my spec, but mostly about the 46 cave part

Like i said about my opinion, I rather do largescale battles then fg vs. fg, bb specc is of course the best to do in that way but in keepdefence/attack 46 cave rocks way more then 46 aug.

but as u stated all specc the way he/she wants to suit a fg. better.

 

[phule_gubben]

Originally posted by aginamist


I don't want to play a char I don't like to play but speccing a char gimped isn't fun.

What are u actually trying to say???

 

[cadiva]

Originally posted by aginamist
I don't want to play a char I don't like to play but speccing a char gimped isn't fun.

There's no such thing as a gimp spec really, only people who think that the Catacombs character builder is the ONLY way anything should be specced.

Like I said before, spec how you want to play it Lotheric , get a good guild and you won't have to worry about having people in Emain tell you your spec is gimped.

Enjoy playing your character and there's no way in hell anyone can tell you you're gimped or rather you can tell them to take a long walk off a short path if they do

 

[Weeping Willow]

Originally posted by phule_gubben
What are u actually trying to say???

I don't want to play a char I don't like to play. You understand that or shall I explain it further to you? Perhaps in Swedish?

I'd rather play a good spec that I don't like than playing a useless spec I like more. You get that?


Example for the first sentence: I would rather play a skald than a savage.

Example for the second sentence: I _might_ like a warrior with 50 sword, 39 hammer, 42 axe more than a warrior with 50 weapon 50 shield and 28 parry, but I would still go for 50 weapon 50 shield 28 parry because I _think_ it is better.

phule_gubben, if you don't understand this write me a pm and I will try to explain it for you.

 

[Weeping Willow]

Originally posted by cadiva
There's no such thing as a gimp spec really, only people who think that the Catacombs character builder is the ONLY way anything should be specced.

There are specs that are better and more useful than others. But that tells nothing about if the player likes it more or less. I just wanted to tell what I think is best.

 

[Weeping Willow]

Re: Re: Re: Why be a buffbot?

Originally posted by phule_gubben
Like i said about my opinion, I rather do largescale battles then fg vs. fg, bb specc is of course the best to do in that way but in keepdefence/attack 46 cave rocks way more then 46 aug.

but as u stated all specc the way he/she wants to suit a fg. better.

42 or 43 aug is not buffbot spec.

 

[old.Lethul]

actually 32 aug is enough if you wanna get some decent cave imo we play alot with 32 aug shammys and high cave and it works great. 42+ aug is good to but i prefer better cave. i guess 42+ aug is best for random grps since lots of random ppl skip LW1 for some reason (espically pac healers ;P)

 

[zmurf]

with end 5 in group, lw1 and tireless 1 r still very nice (except for overpowered savages with end shout) for classes like warrior and serk ...