Best RvR Shaman spec

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-Lotheric-

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Got a lvl 28 Shaman atm which I plan to take to 50. I need some advices from experienced Shamans out there on how to spec. Will be a fully RvR Shaman. Atm Im thinking of:

36 Augmentation
9 Mending
39 Cave

That will leave me with second best aoe dot, aoe root and aoe disease along with good buffs.

Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance.
 
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punj

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43 or 42 aug,get cure poison/disease with mend and rest in cave
 
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agon

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Originally posted by -Lotheric-
Got a lvl 28 Shaman atm which I plan to take to 50. I need some advices from experienced Shamans out there on how to spec. Will be a fully RvR Shaman. Atm Im thinking of:

36 Augmentation
9 Mending
39 Cave

That will leave me with second best aoe dot, aoe root and aoe disease along with good buffs.

Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance.
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if you like that spec, sure.. it's a good one even though i prefer more aug
 
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Rhuric

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42 or 43 aug and 31 or something in cave is the most liked spec by tank groups atleast, or for all ppl who dont wont to bother on spending 1 point on Longwind
 
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Kindar

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My shammie is going for 41 cave, 30 aug and 18 mend. 41 cave for last dd and bolt, 18 mend for best reuzz as shammie and nothing special at 30 in aug. Last heat resist thou
 
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fl3a

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43 aug / 27 cave / 18 mend
43 aug / 31 cave / xx mend
42 aug / 31 cave / xx mend
 
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Kallio

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42aug/31cave/13mend

That´s a good spec for RvR shammy, gives you end 5 and all 16% resists buffs. And kindar, there´s no point going 18 mend take 32 aug and 14 mends instead of that spec.

I specced from 22mending to 13mending... havent noticed a real difference in my healing power.
 
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sagara

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I will go:

46 cave (best ae dot)
22aug (end reg 3)
17 mend (rest)
 
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akula

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41 cave = best DD/bolt good for keep work, also gives good AE root, (damn handy for backup CC when healer being chased round the place;))

32 aug end 4

14 mend cure poison cure disease and also 2nd friggs heal

versatile and also able to solo farm stuff too:)
 
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Mundokar

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Midgard is the melee realm and now more so then ever. Casters (RM and and to a lesser degree SM's) are obsolete by Mythics changes to the game (resists mainly and a couple of other things). A meleeRvRgroup without endreg 5 = Gimp.

Having said the above, i would spec my shammie 42+ aug for endreg 5 and high resist buffs.

Caveshammies are nice to play but are are horrible for the group. Most of the time a rvr-group runs with 4 fightertypes. Compare the damage 1 caveshammie can do vs. the 200% output 4 fightertypes can do with endreg.

Feel free to shoot. This is my observation from grouping in different setups. Would like to hear other ppl experiences..
 
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cadiva

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Although I wouldn't say I was RvR specific, I've found that my spec works pretty well all round both PvE and RvR.

I have 38 aug (all but the last 'red' level of buffs/resists) 35 mend (all but the last 'red' level group friggs) and 15 cave (which misses out on any ae disease or root).

However, some people might think this is too low on cave but I've played this shaman through a guild which for a long time had no high level healers and she's mostly been the number one healer.

Whatever spec you choose at the end of the day, if you enjoy playing it, then it's a viable one.

In my opinion there's no such thing as a gimp spec if you like playing the character.
Get a good guild and you won't ever be running round Emain trying to find a random pick up group with people telling you you're a gimp if you don't have end regen 5.

Although, now given the change to our end regen capabilities, being an aug mend shaman is a right pain in the arse while they still insist on us only being able to cast 20 simultaneous buffs at a time ;)
 
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-Lotheric-

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How big is the difference on the 32 end regen buff and the 42 one? Any tanks thoughts on the case much appreciated.

If the last end regen is a must I think I will go 42 aug, 13 mend and 31 cave.

"Caveshammies are nice to play but are are horrible for the group."

Is that really true? If I raise my buffs it will mean I have to lower my aoe roots, diseases and dots - wouldnt that make me a mobile buffbot? oO
 
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scrow2

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Originally posted by Mundokar
Midgard is the melee realm and now more so then ever. Casters (RM and and to a lesser degree SM's) are obsolete by Mythics changes to the game (resists mainly and a couple of other things). A meleeRvRgroup without endreg 5 = Gimp.

Having said the above, i would spec my shammie 42+ aug for endreg 5 and high resist buffs.

Caveshammies are nice to play but are are horrible for the group. Most of the time a rvr-group runs with 4 fightertypes. Compare the damage 1 caveshammie can do vs. the 200% output 4 fightertypes can do with endreg.

Feel free to shoot. This is my observation from grouping in different setups. Would like to hear other ppl experiences..
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Meleegroup with without end5 is in no way gimped, and if you have 4 savages it doesnt even matter if you have end4, ok ok you need lw1 for parma sprint.

If you think cave shamies are there for the damage you never played high cave....AE root is quite nice you know. I would prefer the 39 spec AE root over end5 anyday. (spec 37aug, 39cave, 4mend)


oh btw...buffbots are ultimate booooring in rvr, you only have to wake up when you need to buff :)
 
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Kallio

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I played to RR6+ With end4, and the difference is there, tanks do more damage with it. After playign tank with end4 and 5 i´ve also noticed a difference. With end5 you dont have to Wait for end to come, your power bar fills up rather fast, this is when springitng after support and styling.

What it comes to RvR, 27cave is a must for the pbae disease that saves my life around 20times a day.

46cave wont do much good, since most of time you play in a tank group and then you CANT use the dots, or you will break mezz and tanks cannot assist. The cases when you can sue AE dots is keep defence, and pbae groups.

AE disease is baseline.

Also, notice that since 1.62 "nerfed" mids end regen you should be able to regen the most possible.

and, with End5 you will avoid that "everyone got LW1" thing. It helps ;)
 
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Mundokar

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havent tested it myself but i heard a warrior from my guild grumble when he didnt have endreg high enough to slam fulltime ;)
 
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scrow2

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btw, you red VN about the TL can make a case about 1.5 spec and weapon spec for shamies.....dont think that will ever happen but would be uber :)
 
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phule_gubben

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RvR also involves keeptakes/defence so go high in cave is good in that case, My caveshammie will have 46 cave/22 aug/16 mend in the end (lvl 48 now) i can heal pretty good and the lvl 16 frigg is quite good. End reg3 and no resistbuffs makes me not that wanted in rvr groups but then again i personally prefer largescale battles over 1fg vs. 1fg anyday.

Pretty amazing to AoEdot from the walls when defending a keep, u cast it, move back relax abit and then let the rp flow. :)

just go with what u think will suit your playstyle.
 
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viruz_bs

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Why be a buffbot?

Originally posted by aginamist
Its gimped to not get end reg 5
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Only way its gimped , is to be wannabe buffbot for a grp, with the 46 Cave your Shaman is the DoTTer the enemy hates.
If your sure to be cave , then why give more in Aug?
I cant really se how that should make it better i think the best spec is


46 cave (best ae dot)
22aug (end reg 3)
17 mend (rest)

Like that other guy said.

Viruz /out.
 
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Fidelcastor

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I think shamy job in open RvR:
1st help group with buffs
2nd assist healer or help him when he attacked
3rd assist tanks or break enemy healer or caster spell

1st: i think 38 aug spec enough. Yellow combos+resist and endu4
2nd: 27 mend give you 293 spec heal
3rd: 27 cave give you instant pbaoe disease and 1st aoe root
(27 cave most important. Instant pbaoe disease save your life if you get agro)

and i think 293 heal save group ppl life lot of time if our healer cant heal.
 
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agon

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Re: Why be a buffbot?

Originally posted by viruz_bs
Only way its gimped , is to be wannabe buffbot for a grp, with the 46 Cave your Shaman is the DoTTer the enemy hates.
If your sure to be cave , then why give more in Aug?
I cant really se how that should make it better i think the best spec is


46 cave (best ae dot)
22aug (end reg 3)
17 mend (rest)

Like that other guy said.

Viruz /out.
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i got 46 in aug, so i am a wannabe buffbot?
the _only_ good/usable thing for normal 1fg vs 1fg you get from very high cave is better ae root and pbae disease. ae dot is not used often in normal rvr. and i got 27 cave, so i got both pbae disease and ae root.
now let's take a look at my aug.. i got best heat and cold resist, best end, and even red str/con buff. i sure as hell help my group more than any other 46 cave specced shammy.

so all you who say that high aug is for wannabe buffbots, go and get a clue. i already got a zerker if i feel for making dmg, but when i play shammy i like to help my group which i sadly must say i wouldn't do as good if i had 46 cave.

46 cave is best spec when you defend your relics or keeps, but that's about it..

yeye, these are my opinions but i guess most rvr shammies agree with me

edit: i didn't mean that most ppl agree with my spec, but mostly about the 46 cave part
 
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viruz_bs

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Tell me what i should use 46 Aug on my Main Char for when i got a 50 buffbot on my tail anyway?
And i've seen plenty of times in Normal RvR when there isnt getting mezzed anything - That's allsow the times its so nice to have a good AE dot.

I guess your spec is ok when u dont have a bb, but i sure as hell like 46 Cave more , at inrealm and most times RvR.

Viruz /out.
 
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agon

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most of the times i'm in a group with a bb, but 1 bb can't buff everybody.. but best str/con wasn't my main point. it was 2 red resists and best end regen.

i had 41 cave, 32 aug before and i really didn't like it..

and i never said which is funniest for ppl to play, just what's better for the group. so i don't mind if you like 46 cave more, but don't call high aug shammies for bbs because that's plain wrong (if they don't really happen to be bbs)
 
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Wonk

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Re: Why be a buffbot?

Originally posted by viruz_bs

46 cave (best ae dot)
22aug (end reg 3)
17 mend (rest)
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go for those :)
My shaman is soloing alot at Hadrians wall, and he can kill close all classes with the dot-run tactic :p

my biggest problem is fighting classes with mess, like minstrels :|
But I can easily kill many other tanks and casters :D
 
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Hoodini

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Originally posted by fl3a
43 aug / 27 cave / 18 mend
43 aug / 31 cave / xx mend
42 aug / 31 cave / xx mend
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3 out of four best shaman specces IMO..

fourth one is 43/42 aug 29cave restmend

oh and reason for someone to take 43aug is cause of the best heat resist wich realy kicks arse against chanters.
 
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Hoodini

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Originally posted by sagara
I will go:

46 cave (best ae dot)
22aug (end reg 3)
17 mend (rest)
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gl getting anything but pickupgrps more than one time with that spec m8... was exelent back at the CS zergs tho.. my shaman was that spec back then and could solo 30-40k in 2-3 hours. was realy nice back then but not so uber no more :<
 
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