Beat That!

[Tallen]

This is the template i use at the moment, it's not great, but i like it.

Config Report

Stats

Str: 102 Int: 0 Hits: 280
Con: 72 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 94 Cha: 0
Qui: 43 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 21 Energy: 18 (5) Crush: 30 (5)
Cold: 12 Matter: 12 Thrust: 25
Heat: 22 Spirit: 13 Slash: 29

Skills

4 Envenom

11 Critical Strike

11 Piercing

12 Stealth

11 Celtic Dual

4 Blades

Focus

Cap Increases

19 Dexterity

80 Hits

25 Strength

Other Bonuses

10 Melee Damage

20 AF

10 Style Damage

9 Melee Combat Speed

Piece Listing

Chest
Name: GOV BM
Level: 51 Quality: 94
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 18 Strength
Effect 3: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 4: 15 Dexterity
Effect 5: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 4 Melee Damage
Effect 7: 4 Style Damage
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 32.00

Arms
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 4 Piercing - 99 Flawed Dusty War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 4 Critical Strike - 99 Flawed Heated Battle Jewel
Gem 3: 4 Celtic Dual - 99 Flawed Icy War Spell Stone
Gem 4: 22 Strength - 99 Precious Fiery Essence
Utility: 74.67

Head
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 3 Celtic Dual - 99 Rough Icy War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 3 Critical Strike - 99 Rough Heated Battle Jewel
Gem 3: 28 Constitution - 99 Perfect Earthen Essence
Gem 4: 25 Strength - 99 Flawless Fiery Essence
Utility: 65.33

Legs
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 60 Hits - 99 Precious Blood Essence
Gem 2: 9 Body - 99 Polished Dusty Shielding
Gem 3: 7 Thrust - 99 Imperfect Airy Shielding
Gem 4: 9 Heat - 99 Polished Heated Shielding
Utility: 65.00

Hands
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 19 Dexterity - 99 Faceted Vapor Essence
Gem 2: 28 Quickness - 99 Perfect Airy Essence
Gem 3: 16 Constitution - 99 Polished Earthen Essence
Gem 4: 7 Thrust - 99 Imperfect Airy Shielding
Utility: 56.00

Feet
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 28 Constitution - 99 Perfect Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 7 Spirit - 99 Imperfect Vapor Shielding
Gem 3: 7 Energy - 99 Imperfect Light Shielding
Gem 4: 7 Heat - 99 Imperfect Heated Shielding
Utility: 60.67

Right Hand
Name: NS Champ Main
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 4 All Melee Weapon Skills
Effect 2: 7 Strength
Effect 3: 9 Dexterity
Effect 4: 4 Melee Damage
Effect 5: 4 Style Damage
Effect 6: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 7: 6 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 30.67

Left Hand
Name: Astral Mephitic Fang
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Piercing
Effect 2: 8 Crush
Effect 3: 7 Slash
Effect 4: 2 Melee Damage
Effect 5: 2 Style Damage
Effect 6: 10 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 45.00

Two Handed
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Ranged
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Neck
Name: Nekkie of Cyclopean Stature
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 1 Thrust
Effect 2: 1 Crush
Effect 3: 1 Slash
Effect 4: 120 Hits
Effect 5: 80 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 36.00

Cloak
Name: SoM
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Stealth
Effect 2: 15 Strength
Effect 3: 15 Quickness
Effect 4: 10 AF
Effect 5: 5 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 35.00

Jewel
Name: Jewel of Dread Stalker
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 4 Critical Strike
Effect 2: 4 Celtic Dual
Effect 3: 4 Envenom
Effect 4: 3 Stealth
Effect 5: 12 Dexterity
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 83.00

Belt
Name: Twisted Malamis
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Stealth
Effect 2: 24 Dexterity
Effect 3: 2 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 4: 8 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 8 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 31.00

Right Ring
Name: Zahur's Ring
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 60 Hits
Effect 2: 6 Matter
Effect 3: 6 Cold
Effect 4: 6 Energy
Effect 5: 6 Body
Effect 6: 6 Spirit
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 75.00

Left Ring
Name: Ring of Dances
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Stealth
Effect 2: 15 Strength
Effect 3: 15 Dexterity
Effect 4: 5 Crush
Effect 5: 5 Slash
Effect 6: 10 AF
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 55.00

Right Wrist
Name: Ebonn Hide Bracer
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Cold
Effect 2: 6 Body
Effect 3: 6 Heat
Effect 4: 6 Slash
Effect 5: 6 Matter
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 60.00

Left Wrist
Name: Cyclone Bracer
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Bonus:
Effect 1: 11 Crush
Effect 2: 10 Slash
Effect 3: 10 Thrust
Effect 4: 2 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 62.00

 

[Windwalka1]

thats pretty damn good actually. ok low con and hits etc but well everything else is there... str dex toa's resists are all round good but well ok can whine about some not being capped etc

rod som its all noice gj

 

[Mckennitt]

Bigchief wrote: Of course you can if you just use a leg weapon mainhand.

Even dualwielding them like you are (something I want to discuss in a second!), you can still run with 9%melee 6%style dmg with the choice of scalars and golm too. Personally whether i'm thrust or slash its got to be 9%+ in each and then still cap the stats. Dps on an assassin is everything.

Obviously dps on an assasin is everything and thats what i aimed for but in order to achieve something u gotta sacrifice something else as we all know that u cant have everything sumed up in a template.

Scalars givf me 3% melee dmg and a proc which i already mentioned in my previous posts but besides that nothing else.
The bad thing from those though are repairing one more artifact, also losing one sc slot ( less usable utility ) and also make your template more based on %chance rather than be a solid one. From my POV i always base my templates on solid facts and less than % chance. So far as ive seen lgm weapons proc the most of any weapon really and taking into consideration that im pierce spec ( means no malice/battler u name it proc ) my choices are quite few.
So what exactly i did in my template was to not base my fights into chances but on facts that obviously t are more % wise worth taking into consideration. I pretty much know that weapon procs such as malice and stuff are IWIN abilities or close to that term but it was my choice of not taking just for the fact that everyone runs like that and i dont mind getting killed from it as i can assure you that i enjoy killing 1 and getting killed 10 times but at least knowning that i manage that using not the most opted combination of abilities/procs/weapons than IPOWN everyone. I dont know how this sounds but thats my pov and i really dont consider the idea lgm+bladeshadow as 80's. I can see huge difference on plenty of fights ( when i have the time to do em ) than what i was seeing while i was blades. Not that im quite into the stealth scene for quite long - therefore my knowledge is much less than what most stealthers say - but that doesnt matter as long as i enjoy it. Despite the choice of the weapons i still think the template i posted is one of the best - expensive ones around ( in pierce section ) with superb utility and use on the right hands.
Time will show i'd say.
As for Tallen's template id say its quite good indeed but not for my likes as a few resists vital to me arent capped or even close to cap ( spirit/matter) and even the basic ones ( body/heat) arent capped either for the small ( from my pov) benefit of 40 hits more and +6% toa bonuses. Obviously though the thing i said earlier it is proved here. U didnt bother capping resists ( defence ) and u went for full offense - again u need to sacrifice to gain something which is total truth.
I guess the best answer is this: Opinions differ and everything is welcome as long as we enjoy it.

Regards
Mck

 

[Windwalka1]

*eyes bleeding* :<

once i finished reading that tho, yeah if u like the temp in ur eyes and theres no better one u can find out there, go for it each to their own!

i like the temp but well i did spot one like this... its weird... but unique...and imo unique is funky sumtimes... not one i would go for as im going for the

"fck it im gonna die anyway i can at least maximise my dps to take one or two of the beggars with me before i go"

this guy i think went more for the hope of surviving a little longer, which on a NS is weird but w/e sounds like he knows what hes doing

except i think hes smoking sumthin when he only has 9 stealth, but then u cud just drop 9% cold on the legs and get the 3 stealth in there i spose, up to u, tweak as u wish

Statistic
Strength: 101/101
Constitution: 80/80
Dexterity: 96/96
Quickness: 43/75
Intelligence: 0/75
Piety: 0/75
Charisma: 0/75
Empathy: 0/75
Hits: 320/320
Power: 0/25

Resistance
Body: 25/26
Cold: 20/26
Heat: 26/26
Energy: 23/26
Matter: 20/26
Spirit: 20/26
Crush: 29/31
Thrust: 26/26
Slash: 26/26

Skill
Critical Strike: 11/11
Stealth: 9/11
Blades: 3/11
Celtic Dual: 11/11
Piercing: 11/11

Cap Increase
Strength: 26/26
Constitution: 5/26
Dexterity: 21/26
Hits: 120/200

TOA Bonus
Armour Factor: 20/50
Style Damage: 4/10
Melee Damage: 4/10
Melee Combat Speed: 10/10
Fatigue: 4/25

Chest (Crafted):
Imbue: 37.0/32 (Quality: 100)
Strength: 25
Heat: 5%
Piercing: 4
Constitution: 25
Utility: 63.3
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Arms (Crafted):
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
Hits: 60
Dexterity: 22
Piercing: 4
Critical Strike: 4
Utility: 69.7
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Head (Crafted):
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
Critical Strike: 3
Hits: 68
Stealth: 3
Constitution: 28
Utility: 65.7
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Legs (Crafted):
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
Critical Strike: 2
Hits: 52
Constitution: 28
Dexterity: 28
Utility: 60.3
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Hands (Crafted):
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
Spirit: 9%
Matter: 9%
Critical Strike: 2
Quickness: 28
Utility: 64.7
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Feet (Crafted):
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
Heat: 9%
Celtic Dual: 4
Cold: 9%
Body: 7%
Utility: 70.0
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Right Hand (traitors):
Imbue: 15.0
Strength (Cap Increase): 10
Dexterity (Cap Increase): 10
Melee Combat Speed: 5
Hits (Cap Increase): 80
Constitution (Cap Increase): 5
ALL melee weapon skills: 3
ALL dual wielding skills: 3
Utility: 30.0
TOA Utility: 95.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Left Hand (champ wep):
Imbue: 20.5
Celtic Dual: 4
Strength: 7
Dexterity: 9
Strength (Cap Increase): 5
Dexterity (Cap Increase): 6
Melee Damage: 4
Style Damage: 4
Utility: 30.7
TOA Utility: 62.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Neck (neck_of_rapture):
Imbue: 39.0
Thrust: 8%
Slash: 8%
Body: 7%
Heat: 7%
Energy: 7%
Utility: 74.0
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Cloak (SoM):
Imbue: 20.0
Stealth: 3
Quickness: 15
Strength: 15
Melee Combat Speed: 5
Armour Factor: 10
Fatigue: 4
Utility: 35.0
TOA Utility: 43.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Jewel (edls):
Imbue: 37.0
Body: 5%
Cold: 5%
Heat: 5%
Energy: 5%
Matter: 5%
Spirit: 5%
Crush: 4%
Thrust: 4%
Slash: 4%
Utility: 84.0
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Belt (oglidarsh_belt):
Imbue: 24.0
Crush: 4%
Thrust: 4%
Slash: 4%
Strength: 15
Hits: 40
Strength (Cap Increase): 6
Hits (Cap Increase): 40
Utility: 44.0
TOA Utility: 22.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Left Ring (RoD):
Imbue: 28.0
Stealth: 3
Strength: 15
Dexterity: 15
Crush: 5%
Slash: 5%
Armour Factor: 10
Utility: 55.0
TOA Utility: 10.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Right Ring (zahur_ring):
Imbue: 40.0
Matter: 6%
Cold: 6%
Energy: 6%
Body: 6%
Spirit: 6%
Hits: 60
Utility: 75.0
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Left Wrist (warlord_alpha_bracer):
Imbue: 29.5
Strength: 24
Dexterity: 24
Hits: 44
Strength (Cap Increase): 5
Dexterity (Cap Increase): 5
Utility: 43.0
TOA Utility: 20.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Right Wrist (cyclone_brac):
Imbue: 38.0
Crush: 11%
Thrust: 10%
Slash: 10%
Utility: 62.0
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

 

[Mckennitt]

Windwalka said : *eyes bleeding* :<

once i finished reading that tho, yeah if u like the temp in ur eyes and theres no better one u can find out there, go for it each to their own!

i like the temp but well i did spot one like this... its weird... but unique...and imo unique is funky sumtimes... not one i would go for as im going for the

"fck it im gonna die anyway i can at least maximise my dps to take one or two of the beggars with me before i go"

this guy i think went more for the hope of surviving a little longer, which on a NS is weird but w/e sounds like he knows what hes doing

except i think hes smoking sumthin when he only has 9 stealth, but then u cud just drop 9% cold on the legs and get the 3 stealth in there i spose, up to u, tweak as u wish

Statistic
Strength: 101/101
Constitution: 80/80
Dexterity: 96/96
Quickness: 43/75
Intelligence: 0/75
Piety: 0/75
Charisma: 0/75
Empathy: 0/75
Hits: 320/320
Power: 0/25

Resistance
Body: 25/26
Cold: 20/26
Heat: 26/26
Energy: 23/26
Matter: 20/26
Spirit: 20/26
Crush: 29/31
Thrust: 26/26
Slash: 26/26

Skill
Critical Strike: 11/11
Stealth: 9/11
Blades: 3/11
Celtic Dual: 11/11
Piercing: 11/11

Cap Increase
Strength: 26/26
Constitution: 5/26
Dexterity: 21/26
Hits: 120/200

TOA Bonus
Armour Factor: 20/50
Style Damage: 4/10
Melee Damage: 4/10
Melee Combat Speed: 10/10
Fatigue: 4/25

Chest (Crafted):
Imbue: 37.0/32 (Quality: 100)
Strength: 25
Heat: 5%
Piercing: 4
Constitution: 25
Utility: 63.3
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Arms (Crafted):
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
Hits: 60
Dexterity: 22
Piercing: 4
Critical Strike: 4
Utility: 69.7
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Head (Crafted):
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
Critical Strike: 3
Hits: 68
Stealth: 3
Constitution: 28
Utility: 65.7
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Legs (Crafted):
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
Critical Strike: 2
Hits: 52
Constitution: 28
Dexterity: 28
Utility: 60.3
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Hands (Crafted):
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
Spirit: 9%
Matter: 9%
Critical Strike: 2
Quickness: 28
Utility: 64.7
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Feet (Crafted):
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
Heat: 9%
Celtic Dual: 4
Cold: 9%
Body: 7%
Utility: 70.0
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Right Hand (traitors):
Imbue: 15.0
Strength (Cap Increase): 10
Dexterity (Cap Increase): 10
Melee Combat Speed: 5
Hits (Cap Increase): 80
Constitution (Cap Increase): 5
ALL melee weapon skills: 3
ALL dual wielding skills: 3
Utility: 30.0
TOA Utility: 95.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Left Hand (champ wep):
Imbue: 20.5
Celtic Dual: 4
Strength: 7
Dexterity: 9
Strength (Cap Increase): 5
Dexterity (Cap Increase): 6
Melee Damage: 4
Style Damage: 4
Utility: 30.7
TOA Utility: 62.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Neck (neck_of_rapture):
Imbue: 39.0
Thrust: 8%
Slash: 8%
Body: 7%
Heat: 7%
Energy: 7%
Utility: 74.0
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Cloak (SoM):
Imbue: 20.0
Stealth: 3
Quickness: 15
Strength: 15
Melee Combat Speed: 5
Armour Factor: 10
Fatigue: 4
Utility: 35.0
TOA Utility: 43.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Jewel (edls):
Imbue: 37.0
Body: 5%
Cold: 5%
Heat: 5%
Energy: 5%
Matter: 5%
Spirit: 5%
Crush: 4%
Thrust: 4%
Slash: 4%
Utility: 84.0
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Belt (oglidarsh_belt):
Imbue: 24.0
Crush: 4%
Thrust: 4%
Slash: 4%
Strength: 15
Hits: 40
Strength (Cap Increase): 6
Hits (Cap Increase): 40
Utility: 44.0
TOA Utility: 22.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Left Ring (RoD):
Imbue: 28.0
Stealth: 3
Strength: 15
Dexterity: 15
Crush: 5%
Slash: 5%
Armour Factor: 10
Utility: 55.0
TOA Utility: 10.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Right Ring (zahur_ring):
Imbue: 40.0
Matter: 6%
Cold: 6%
Energy: 6%
Body: 6%
Spirit: 6%
Hits: 60
Utility: 75.0
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Left Wrist (warlord_alpha_bracer):
Imbue: 29.5
Strength: 24
Dexterity: 24
Hits: 44
Strength (Cap Increase): 5
Dexterity (Cap Increase): 5
Utility: 43.0
TOA Utility: 20.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Right Wrist (cyclone_brac):
Imbue: 38.0
Crush: 11%
Thrust: 10%
Slash: 10%
Utility: 62.0
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

2 questions needs answering:

1st: Where did i stated that theres no better?

2nd: In which way this template ( u wrote ) can be even placed next to the one i posted? Please explain.

 

[Windwalka1]

there is no "best temp"...in the old days of SI there were but since toa its made people choose, so what may be someones dream temp may be another mans nightmare temp.

ok now to answer ur questions

1) u didnt, and i didnt say that, ofc everyone is lookin for the best temp for them with their budget and likes/dislikes etc... what i was saying, if after looking at all of these others, you prefer your temp still, then go for it cos its what makes u happy at the end of the day + its a nice temp

2) well u asked for other pierce temps, ok its not exactly within ur guidelines but i thought id post it to see if u liked it, it interested me at least, im just puttin ideas out there for u man, plz dont eat me! /cry

Disclaimer: i wudnt take this suit on my own NS but if sum1 else took it and i played it i can imagine it being alot of fun for a while.

end of the day, choose ur fav temp and go for it, u know what ur doing with the temps so ull be fine

p.s. plz dont bite my head off

 

[psyco]

SPAM ALERT!

Beat That!

i could but unfortunatly it wouldn't be achievable, due to the fact that the items would be made up>.<

but on a more serious note use

Spoiler

blah

blah

if your going to quote large posts its a pain to scroll down all that way

 

[Mckennitt]

and here goes the saying: Postfarmer psyco!!!! grats +1 dude

 

[Donledirse]

Mck <3, lots of nice templates tbh.

Interested to see the results when you choose one and start rvring

 

[bigchief]

From my POV i always base my templates on solid facts and less than % chance. So far as ive seen lgm weapons proc the most of any weapon really

Umm, that seems to be a somewhat conflicting statement?

I dont know how this sounds but thats my pov and i really dont consider the idea lgm+bladeshadow as 80's. I can see huge difference on plenty of fights ( when i have the time to do em ) than what i was seeing while i was blades.

Not sure if you actually read my post or not, but if you run dual lw's instead of one lw and one pretend lw (i.e. a weapon that does not debuff its own damage ... the whole point of a lw imo) you will proc a debuff much much faster on average and thus do more damage over time, than you would by gaining 8str and 8dex caps.

 

[Mckennitt]

Unless im not mistaken. Aint bladeshadow spirit dmg based weapon :touch:

 

[bigchief]

Unless im not mistaken. Aint bladeshadow spirit dmg based weapon :touch:

sigh...

yes it is but it does not debuff spirit damage

do you see? :E

 

[Windwalka1]

basically he means use a spirit legendary not bladeshadow...so that u have a chance to proc the debuff on ur offhand aswell...

but tbh, magic dmg nowadays doesnt touch physical cos of all the CL shit

 

[Mckennitt]

Its bad to have Ouzo and reply on Fh aswell xD
Sorry bigchief

All i can say is: Let them come 1010101!!!!

 

[psyco]

and here goes the saying: Postfarmer psyco!!!! grats +1 dude

wtf would i want +1 for? that section doesn't even work