Baseline stun on casters

[Belomar]

the albs has the most uv in their classes

I shall now defeat this argument using simple logic, watch carefully: Assume all realms have more or less the same abilities. This is a valid assumption, since there are very few abilities specific to each realm (discounting RAs). Given that Albion has the most classes in the game, it trivially follows that the average utility value of Albion classes will be lower than that of other realms (who both have a lower amount of classes). QED.

 

[noaim]

weird that mid healers/shammies and hib eld/bard gets way more util than any alb class.

Yes they all have WAY more util than mincers...really, LOADS more.

 

[flex]

stop whining about minstrells, they don't have so much util and are rly not overpowered in fg fights

 

[Arnor]

stop whining about minstrells, they don't have so much util and are rly not overpowered in fg fights

good one xD


see bleed7 for well-played groupmincer

 

[Raven]

stop whining about minstrells, they don't have so much util and are rly not overpowered in fg fights

mez
stun
speed
chain armour
specable weapon
stealth
wall climb
sos
ap
demez
interupts
dd's
phase shift
zephyr (sp)

no, not un-balanced at all, really shit utillity

 

[Asha]

you forgot
red pets
&
zepher

 

[Arnor]

and ip

 

[Asha]

and dds and interupts are kinda the same thing

 

[haarewin]

bard gets way more util than any alb class.

yeah!

 

[flex]

mez
stun
speed
chain armour
specable weapon
stealth
wall climb
sos
ap
demez
interupts
dd's
phase shift
zephyr (sp)

no, not un-balanced at all, really shit utillity

lol, yay stealth, 1h weap in full group fights, really makes the difference.

sos, yes nice ra, does it make them overpowered ? if yes, then a druid is more overpowered., interrupts, yes they have 2 nice interrupts.

mez ? ye they got such powerfull mezz compared to pac healers & bards.

dd's = interrupts, can't count them twice.

ml's = same as any other soj. Doesn't give them anything more then healers/bards etc.

Chain? healers/bards get about the same.

So what do they get:

2 interrupts, theurg's are better tho, also no aoe interrupts (except aoe mezz, but sucky radius & castspeed); if you want a tankish class for interrupts , reaver > minstrell imo
speed
demezz
single insta stun on short duration & range.


You're not actually gonne force me to do a 1by1 comparison with healers & bards are you ?

Offcourse they can be nice for an alb group, but it's really nothing exceptional.

 

[Huntingtons]

and dds and interupts are kinda the same thing

no they are not... interupts are aoe spamming a spell dd's are dd's (duh)

 

[Asha]

umm then what is a mincer using to interupt?

 

[Arnor]

umm then what is a mincer using to interupt?

5sec aoemezz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111111111111111111

 

[Aussie]

since when is chain an utility?
and stealth and climb wall usefull?

might aswell add distract !

 

[Arnor]

alb the uv realm \o/ thats a new one, weird that mid healers/shammies and hib eld/bard gets way more util than any alb class.

haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

sorc>>uv

 

[Dorin]

I shall now defeat this argument using simple logic, watch carefully: Assume all realms have more or less the same abilities. This is a valid assumption, since there are very few abilities specific to each realm (discounting RAs). Given that Albion has the most classes in the game, it trivially follows that the average utility value of Albion classes will be lower than that of other realms (who both have a lower amount of classes). QED.

:E i like your posts hidden sarcasm and not bullshit usually ))

givf more

 

[Mastade]

:wub:


btw is monday official bs whine day now?
casted stun lasts less than one second on a det 5 tank (or mine did), if you're not a tank you have purge or another healer to heal you, if you're a stealther QQ more there is some class that you can't insta own wahaaaaaaaaa...
hibs are going to be fucked in NF w/o group purge so they will need it, stop whining about every little thing

Katie ;<

 

[Methos]

its ingame from start, dont whine about it imo ><

And people have whined about it from the start.

But there seems to be so much to whine about it got lost in the zerg of whines.

 

[Danya]

Get 25% duration increase items on a hib caster for 11s stun imo!!
Only problem with qc stun is it's so slow, compared to buffed cast speeds quickcast really feels sluggish.

 

[Yadeniel]

Let it go. They need more than that in NF without the damn Gp.

BYE BYE GROUP PURGE

 

[Leathas]

another whine thread about smth?Do we whine about "<cry> a mincer just stunned me and his n00b scout friends shooted me to death!"?No


Oh..also..whine about this animal because it runs faster than you :

 

[Arnor]

its ingame from start, dont whine about it imo ><

"its a long time ago, let it go man"

"fine, then dont bring up jesus to me, as long as we're talking shelflife here"

 

[Huntingtons]

another whine thread about smth?Do we whine about "<cry> a mincer just stunned me and his n00b scout friends shooted me to death!"?No


Oh..also..whine about this animal because it runs faster than you :

cute animals are not to be qq'd about fyi!

 

[Huntingtons]

lol, yay stealth, 1h weap in full group fights, really makes the difference.

sos, yes nice ra, does it make them overpowered ? if yes, then a druid is more overpowered., interrupts, yes they have 2 nice interrupts.

mez ? ye they got such powerfull mezz compared to pac healers & bards.

dd's = interrupts, can't count them twice.

ml's = same as any other soj. Doesn't give them anything more then healers/bards etc.

Chain? healers/bards get about the same.

So what do they get:

2 interrupts, theurg's are better tho, also no aoe interrupts (except aoe mezz, but sucky radius & castspeed); if you want a tankish class for interrupts , reaver > minstrell imo
speed
demezz
single insta stun on short duration & range.


You're not actually gonne force me to do a 1by1 comparison with healers & bards are you ?

Offcourse they can be nice for an alb group, but it's really nothing exceptional.

its not about other classes having the same too... its about the same utility in same class ffs... alot of classes have chain, but none of the stealthing classes - alot of classes got mez, but none of the stealthing same goes for 2 dd's, spd, demez, soj (yes, but its on a 3rd stealther class etc qq) so yes, they are overpowered... same goes for alot of classes (Im not saying mincers are the only overpowred class... qq)

 

[flex]

learn to read, i was talking about full groups ffs

 

[kirennia]

mez
stun
speed
chain armour
specable weapon
stealth
wall climb
sos
ap
demez
interupts
dd's
phase shift
zephyr (sp)

no, not un-balanced at all, really shit utillity

Yes, that's really, good why not list absolutely everything like all the styles they can get to make the list long longer? Am sure we can all do that...you could add in heal song and the fact they can buy aug strength too

 

[Zeelee]

Yes, that's really, good why not list absolutely everything like all the styles they can get to make the list long longer? Am sure we can all do that...you could add in heal song and the fact they can buy aug strength too

what's ur point ?

 

[Krane]

I find it a bit easymode vs most alb grps (altough sorc grp owned us good today baseline stun or not).

I find it counts shit vs mid grps.

(baseline stun that is)

 

[-Freezingwiz-]

mez
stun
speed
chain armour
specable weapon
stealth
wall climb
sos
ap
demez
interupts
dd's
phase shift
zephyr (sp)

no, not un-balanced at all, really shit utillity

Ablabtive chant
Heal song
Power song
2 speccable dmg types
Confuse
Charm - Mindworms etc they have stun aswell :<
Access to IP
Access to Amelureing melodies in NF aswell
Access to infils pets
Access to Scout pets
Access to Both at same time + charmed pet
I think it is unfair we don't have 2 * spec pts aswell to be able to spec 50 weapon aswell as 50 instruments imo tbh mmmmk

 

[Belomar]

:E i like your posts hidden sarcasm and not bullshit usually ))

:wub: I'm away on a business trip.

EDIT: Oh, and nice to see Krane have not entirely forgot his beginnings!