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pjuppe

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i'm currently trying to lvl a bard and i have begun to thing abit about her template. two questions have arisen though.

1) how much pow pool should i aim for?
2) what artifacts should i try to fit in? (i already have phoebus harp and crocodile tear ring as a must have)
3) is healbonus something i should aim for?
 

Vodkafairy

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pjuppe said:
i'm currently trying to lvl a bard and i have begun to thing abit about her template. two questions have arisen though.

1) how much pow pool should i aim for?
2) what artifacts should i try to fit in? (i already have phoebus harp and crocodile tear ring as a must have)
3) is healbonus something i should aim for?

well the more the better really, but most templates end up with 20-35%ish, which should be fine.

crocring is a must-have, even if not in template, then zoarkat / ceremonial / harp are very nice to have. rest is all optional. having battler/malice is very nice aswell for the charges

and no, healbonus isnt something you should heal for.. unless you wanna spec 33 reg, but imo its an inferiour spec for rvr atleast. for pve it is always nice ofc ;)
 

Mckennitt

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1) Around 20% ~ power bonus should be ok for you dude , though if u can manage to get more wont do any harm to you:)

2) Well it depends what template u wanna do.. Easy - hard?
For example if u want a template that will have capped all toa shits ( aka spell range , casting speed ) u will need def some key arties ( gov / gsv / golm / bracer of zo / cs )
Overcap bonuses like dex can be taken from gov/gsv/dex cb / and many others...
I would say a set of arties like gov/gsv, cb , zoa , phoebus , croc will givf almost capped all those bull u need.

3) Depends on your spec aswell. If u using 43 16 47 i wouldnt suggest to not bother with it... but if u using the other spec 43 33 37 it would be good to have bonuse on it since your role aint solid mezzer with it but a decent healer aswell.. Those things differs aswell for each player so u can figure out alone in practise :)

Regards

Mck
 

Spetsnaz

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dont know much about bards but i think spell duration adn spell range is a must (healing bonus aint needed as bards almost never heal in RvR as their role is mezer/interupter)

for chest i would suggest GSV me think...

but not sure


oh mck is betterr advice than me
 

pjuppe

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thanks for the input :) you think this will do?

LOKI Build Report
Two-Handed Configuration:
Build Utility: 627.0
Useable Utility: 611.0
TOA Utility: 316.0

Statistics
STR:0/75 CON:81/81 DEX:102/101
QUI:0/75 INT:0/75 PIE:0/75
CHA:105/82 EMP:0/75
Hits:128/240
Power:0/35
AF:10/50

Resistances
Body: 23
Cold: 26
Heat: 23
Energy: 4
Matter: 18
Spirit: 23+5
Crush: 25+2
Slash: 26+3
Thrust: 26

Skills
Regrowth: 3
Nurture: 3
Music: 3

Bonuses
Power Pool: 25
Spell Duration: 14
Casting Speed: 10
Spell Range: 12
Spell Damage: 4

Chest (golden scarab vest (bard)):
Imbue: 25.0
15 Charisma
6% Crush
6% Slash
6% Thrust
4 Spell Range
4 Spell Damage
Utility: 46.0
TOA Utility: 40.0

Arms:
Imbue: 37.0/32 (Quality: 100)
25 Dexterity
13 Constitution
5% Body
11% Cold
Utility: 57.3
TOA Utility: 0.0

Head:
Imbue: 37.0/32 (Quality: 100)
25 Dexterity
9% Thrust
9% Crush
5% Heat
Utility: 62.7
TOA Utility: 0.0

Legs:
Imbue: 37.0/32 (Quality: 100)
25 Constitution
7% Matter
7% Heat
9% Spirit
Utility: 62.7
TOA Utility: 0.0

Hands:
Imbue: 38.5/32 (Quality: 100)
25 Constitution
5% Thrust
11% Cold
7% Heat
Utility: 62.7
TOA Utility: 0.0

Feet (soot stained boots bard):
Imbue: 25.0
18 Constitution
19 Dexterity
48 Hits
6 Dexterity Cap Increase
6 Constitution Cap Increase
Utility: 36.7
TOA Utility: 24.0

Two-Handed (phoebus harp):
Imbue: 4.0
2% Body
2% Matter
2% Spirit
8 Spell Duration
5 Casting Speed
10 Dexterity Cap Increase
Utility: 12.0
TOA Utility: 61.0

Neck (phoebus harp):
Imbue: 19.0
4% Crush
4% Slash
4% Slash
15 Acuity
6 Power Pool
6 Spell Duration
4 Spell Range
Utility: 34.0
TOA Utility: 44.0

Cloak (cloudsong):
Imbue: 8.0
12 Acuity
5 Power Cap Increase
5 Power Pool
5 Power Cap Increase
5 Casting Speed
Utility: 8.0
TOA Utility: 55.0

Jewel (atlantis tablet):
Imbue: 20.0
15 Acuity
3 ALL magic skills
40 Hits
10 AF
Utility: 35.0
TOA Utility: 10.0

Belt (woven hair of malamis):
Imbue: 15.0
15 Dexterity
15 Acuity
7 Acuity Cap Increase
6 Dexterity Cap Increase
8 Power Pool
Utility: 20.0
TOA Utility: 42.0

Left Ring (band of shadows):
Imbue: 33.0
6% Crush
6% Slash
6% Thrust
7% Body
7% Spirit
Utility: 64.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Right Ring (crocodile tear ring):
Imbue: 25.0
4% Heat
4% Cold
4% Energy
4% Matter
4% Body
15 Acuity
Utility: 50.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Left Wrist (ceremonial bracer (dex)):
Imbue: 22.0
18 Dexterity
40 Hits
5 Dexterity Cap Increase
40 Hits Cap Increase
6% Slash
Utility: 34.0
TOA Utility: 20.0

Right Wrist (bracer of zo'karath):
Imbue: 24.0
18 Acuity
5% Body
5% Spirit
5% Matter
6 Power Pool
4 Spell Range
Utility: 42.0
TOA Utility: 32.0
 

ruw

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more hp imo :p

maybe fit egg in it aswell ?
 

Spetsnaz

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here isa template i got from a friend and did some work trying to improve:

it got EGG in it as well :)

Config Report

Stats

Str: 0 Int: 0 Hits: 268
Con: 75 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 101 Cha: 117
Qui: 0 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 25 Energy: 12 Crush: 26 (2)
Cold: 25 Matter: 18 Thrust: 22
Heat: 26 Spirit: 21 (5) Slash: 29 (3)

Skills

Focus

Cap Increases

25 Dex

16 Cha

80 Hits

5 Power

Other Bonuses

14 Spell Duration Bonus

5 Buff Bonus

8 Healing Bonus

12 Spell Range Bonus

4 Spell Damage Bonus

10 Casting Speed Bonus

8 AF Bonus

25 Power Percentage Bonus

Piece Listing

Chest
Name: GSV (bard)
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Charisma
Effect 2: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 3: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 4: 6 Thrust Resist
Effect 5: 4 Spell Range Bonus
Effect 6: 4 Spell Damage Bonus
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 46.00

Arms
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 25 Constitution - 99 flawless Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 68 Hits - 99 flawless Blood Essence
Gem 3: 9 Crush Resist - 99 polished Fiery Shielding
Gem 4: 5 Slash Resist - 99 flawed Watery Shielding
Utility: 61.67

Head
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 28 Constitution - 99 perfect Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 68 Hits - 99 flawless Blood Essence
Gem 3: 7 Thrust Resist - 99 imperfect Airy Shielding
Gem 4: 5 Body Resist - 99 flawed Dusty Shielding
Utility: 59.67

Legs
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 22 Constitution - 99 precious Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 60 Hits - 99 precious Blood Essence
Gem 3: 9 Body Resist - 99 polished Dusty Shielding
Gem 4: 7 Cold Resist - 99 imperfect Icy Shielding
Utility: 61.67

Hands
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 28 Dexterity - 99 perfect Vapor Essence
Gem 2: 5 Cold Resist - 99 flawed Icy Shielding
Gem 3: 7 Heat Resist - 99 imperfect Heated Shielding
Gem 4: 9 Spirit Resist - 99 polished Vapor Shielding
Utility: 60.67

Feet
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 25 Dexterity - 99 flawless Vapor Essence
Gem 2: 9 Cold Resist - 99 polished Icy Shielding
Gem 3: 7 Heat Resist - 99 imperfect Heated Shielding
Gem 4: 7 Matter Resist - 99 imperfect Earthen Shielding
Utility: 62.67

Right Hand
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Left Hand
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Two Handed
Name: Phoebus harp
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 2 Body Resist
Effect 2: 2 Matter Resist
Effect 3: 2 Spirit Resist
Effect 4: 8 Spell Duration Bonus
Effect 5: 5 Casting Speed Bonus
Effect 6: 10 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 12.00

Ranged
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Neck
Name: Phoebus Harp
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 4 Crush Resist
Effect 2: 4 Thrust Resist
Effect 3: 4 Slash Resist
Effect 4: 15 Acuity
Effect 5: 6 Power Percentage Bonus
Effect 6: 6 Spell Duration Bonus
Effect 7: 4 Spell Range Bonus
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 34.00

Cloak
Name: Cloudsong
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 5 Power Percentage Bonus
Effect 2: 12 Acuity
Effect 3: 5 Acuity Cap Increase
Effect 4: 5 Casting Speed Bonus
Effect 5: 5 Buff Bonus
Effect 6: 8 AF Bonus
Effect 7: 5 Power Cap Increase
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 8.00

Jewel
Name: Egg of Youth
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 12 Acuity
Effect 2: 32 Hits
Effect 3: 5 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 5 Thrust Resist
Effect 5: 5 Slash Resist
Effect 6: 8 Healing Bonus
Effect 7: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 46.00

Belt
Name: woven hair of malamis
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 8 Power Percentage Bonus
Effect 2: 15 Dexterity
Effect 3: 15 Acuity
Effect 4: 7 Acuity Cap Increase
Effect 5: 6 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 20.00

Right Ring
Name: Immolated ring
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Dexterity
Effect 2: 15 Acuity
Effect 3: 8 Heat Resist
Effect 4: 8 Energy Resist
Effect 5: 4 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 4 Acuity Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 52.00

Left Ring
Name: Croc Tear Ring
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 4 Heat Resist
Effect 2: 4 Cold Resist
Effect 3: 4 Energy Resist
Effect 4: 4 Matter Resist
Effect 5: 4 Body Resist
Effect 6: 15 Acuity
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 50.00

Right Wrist
Name: Ceremonial Bracer (dex)
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Dexterity
Effect 2: 40 Hits
Effect 3: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 4: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 5: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 34.00

Left Wrist
Name: Zo'arkat Bracer
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Acuity
Effect 2: 5 Matter Resist
Effect 3: 5 Body Resist
Effect 4: 5 Spirit Resist
Effect 5: 6 Power Percentage Bonus
Effect 6: 4 Spell Range Bonus
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 42.00
 

Mckennitt

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charisma is 91 not 100+ u have and u need some % more in matter imho

But overall looks good
 

pjuppe

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ruw said:
more hp imo :p

maybe fit egg in it aswell ?

didn't want the egg, i want the croc mode :) looks > stats :)

Argyle_Avendale said:
You have a little problem there xD

damn... thx for finding it :)
 

pjuppe

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noticed that i made the usual error... i've put in the wrong stats on phoebus harp (2*4%slash). some more work needed.

(bardtemplates sucks to make... i want AT but i don't want to use CS :()
 

Shangrila

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Power Pool: 20-25%is is normal i think

Artis: The look doesnt win you a fight, sure its a nice disguise but rr5 ability is good enough imho. Get traitors dagger just for the charge and you got a 2nd disguise. I got eoy and I love it. We won a lot of almost lost fights thx to egg rezz. My bard also got jacina, spell pierce works for mezz as well, and 5% passive + 5% from some chant in group is nice bonus, the 30%ish group insta can also be very handy. I got CS as well, but if there was another way to get 5% cast speed I would kick that sucky cloak (chant doesnt work for bards and the utility is low). Harp is a must, croc ring is ok, very nice for zergs but not really needed if you only run 1fg. GSV > GoV imho (i got gsv), the proc rocks and really helps you to escape the assist train, doesnt proc that often from my experience. Cap cast speed and spell range at all costs. +duration as much as you can get, remember that spell pierce works for mezzes too and that this gives you another 5 or 10% longer mezz time for free.

Dex cap: 25 dex cap is nice, but most likely you'll have to sacrifice a lot of stuff to get it. imho dont bother with it, just get 15 or 20 and you'll be fine as well. Get aug dex3/4 and you'll cast fast enough anyways.

Healing bonus: what the other said, unless you are 33 reg specced dont bother with it.
 

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