Bard questions

[Gear]

While I love RvR-ing with my Ranger (new all-melee spec/template almost completed), I find myself wanting to do a bit of visual RvR with my bard. Thing is, I know jack-shit about how to play one. Can anyone point me to any specialised forums and guides so I can start getting an idea?

Thanks

 

[Kiiz]

u learn best by rvring urself. myabe make a lvl 20 and go bgs tom get a feeling of what it is to twist disturb mezz etc.. but by running failing u will learn.. dont think there is any guides that say "how to be a bard" cause bard isnt a one button class all can play..

 

[Gear]

Well, I'm not talking about something to tell me how to play, I'm looking towards some general instructions regarding the class itself. I'm looking for the equivelant of www.critshot.com for archers (which is definitelly not a one button class)

 

[Lorra]

Well what do you want to know and ill do my best to help you..

 

[Kiiz]

www.classesofcamelot.com

www.camelotherald.com

 

[Zrall]

watching [insert your desired class here] movies sure does help some too

 

[Burp]

Best advice is just start playing m8 ....

this might help :

http://vnboards.ign.com/Hibernia_Naturalist_Professions/b20910/

 

[Deadnala]

if you never played the bard, you not gone like it i guess. ppl will be angry at you etc all the time. Bard isnt a easy class but i liked bard the most of what i played before NF. I dont play the bard much anymore now, not that i dont like him anymore but leveling a ranger atm

some tips

make sure you insta AE mezz asap on contact
change song to end
spamm lullaby/AE mezz
only heal if the druid cant follow it or have agro
think as bard: "im not a healer"
AM and SoS is good to have as RA
dont forget purge ofc and unmezz all the time
get phoebus harp to lvl 10 asap, it will make you life more easy
ML8 perfecter give rezzill cure, its a must to RB asap if you die dont share it

GL with the bard and, once you know how to play it its 1 of the most fun classes to play.

 

[Kiiz]

some tips

make sure you insta AE mezz asap on contact
change song to end
spamm lullaby/AE mezz
only heal if the druid cant follow it or have agro
think as bard: "im not a healer"
AM and SoS is good to have as RA
dont forget purge ofc and unmezz all the time
get phoebus harp to lvl 10 asap, it will make you life more easy
ML8 perfecter give rezzill cure, its a must to RB asap if you die dont share it
QUOTE]

1- correct
2- correct
3-wrong! spam lulla/mezz breaks first mezz, pick targets to disturb if the others still are mezzed. when ppl start moving again, lulla and dd and mezz, but dont brek mezzes.
4-partly correct, u heal if u must, thats why u have regrowth.
5-u dont think like that u think i am the best i will mezz and disturb all and save my party cause they all suck . (arrogant bards are the best, softcores are usually shit)
6-RAs u have as u like AM is must purge is must. rest is whatever u wanna have.
7- deemezz is ofc a must.

forget all the rest. Toa ur char get high dex and Casting speed.

most important dont let those leetest bring u down. u know u have potential, use it. Too many spineless bastards out there. Dont be one.

now good luck

 

[Deadnala]

3-wrong! spam lulla/mezz breaks first mezz, pick targets to disturb if the others still are mezzed. when ppl start moving again, lulla and dd and mezz, but dont brek mezzes.

Depend on the scene tbh, true that it break mezz but most of time mezz is broken anyway. If you spamm mezz only, its a wast of power coz its resisted in a rage, so.. lullaby to reset rage or the mezz wont work.
Then if i use the heal, its the groupheal, but as i said heal is not important for bards, but more like a waist of mana. Then ofcourse if you stand inside a tower next to a fop and you mates are outside, spamm groupheal is just great, but then again bards got beter things to do than heal

 

[Ogri]

Forget all that b/s, you either got the bard ability or you aint....HAPPY XMAS btw to All DaoC'ers, particulary their best bards.....but your personal attitude is paramount to actuallly being a sucessful bard....please be tenacious, please be patient and PLEASE!!! dont roll a bard and expect to fall into the catergory, as it takes a special sort of person to folllow this through to the climax. I only know of 2-3 bards who have actually filled the full criteria of Hibernian Bard.

Understand your roll before your class abilities!

 

[Vodkafairy]

Depend on the scene tbh, true that it break mezz but most of time mezz is broken anyway. If you spamm mezz only, its a wast of power coz its resisted in a rage, so.. lullaby to reset rage or the mezz wont work.
Then if i use the heal, its the groupheal, but as i said heal is not important for bards, but more like a waist of mana. Then ofcourse if you stand inside a tower next to a fop and you mates are outside, spamm groupheal is just great, but then again bards got beter things to do than heal

ehhh lullaby doesnt reset anything but aggro list, it has nothing to do with mobs being enraged or people having mezz immunity.. you spam mez for interrupt purposes, and lullaby for a different kind of (insta) interrupt

healing is a waste of power, only needed in extremely rare cases or when your druids dont do their job

preventing dmg > healing it

 

[Radix]

Shape change seem very important also. Even if you have RR5 ability it wont last you all the time.

 

[Vodkafairy]

most important things are

1- range
2- cast spd + power (so you can interrupt longer)
3- survivability (shapeshift, resist, hits)

 

[Boni]

Blowing AE insta on contact is not the best way to play a bard unless youre already losing the CC war your better off learning to lul/AE mezz and getting a really solid mezz off.

 

[tierk]

1. When u make contact with enemy group try to use the single target insta on the leader of the other group, this will usually stop em dead in there tracks and will ensure that the whole gruop is well bunched for your AE mezz ( not insta preferably).
2. Try to pick out casters and wreck there day with single and AE Lull (use AE one with great caution as this will undo your hard work getting all group mezzed if they are real close).
3. Get end song going as soon as possible after performing step one as more then likely by this stage you will have entire group targetting and there is nothing better then dragging an entire assist train in yer wake while u sprint in circles
4. If you CBA get full TOA'd and ML'd up as well as this will be a huge bonus to the group with Zeph and all the nice arti's u can get (never bothered with my bard).
5. If you have to heal the group in a fight that usually spells the end for the group as most bards have a really small amount of regrowth (17 on mine and probably all RvR speeced Bards) but doesnt mean you should'nt have some sort of healing spell on Q bar.
6. Make sure that u are always watching for group members that are mezzed as there is nothing that pisses people off more then to spend a whole fight mezzed, demezz is one of yer best tools and a great way to make friends.

Cant think of anything else off the top of my head but i would suggest that you have a chat with one of the RvR active ones in game as well (try Twisting, he is a great bard).
I would also suggest that you run with people you know as a rule as the level on Whine is totally controlled by yer ability to get the mezz in first (which at first will probably be low). I was VERY lucky to be able to learn the ropes with a real class bunch of people who gave the me confidence to play the character in RvR more and seemed to be able to rise above the normal "FFS why no mezz!?!?" (thanks Vigilance and New Dawn you all know who you are). Once you get the hang of it i assure you this is one of the most satisfying classes to play in the game and certainly the most challenging what with all the things that you have to do for group aside from lead em into battle.
Good luck.

 

[Gargo]

I guess it's a bad time to ask for advice on how to bard since there are none of the 'better' bards left in daoc (Blazie, Fame, Miss, Pbuck, Walker and ahem, myself). I had the privelage of learning from Fame and Miss - usually grouped with me on one of their alts telling me where I went wrong. Criticise yourself - after each fight tell yourself what you done wrong, even if you did wtfpwn the mid-fotm-group or alb-zerg.

Best advice I can give you is to practice pan-mezzing on hard-to-target mobs. Reactions are something you can improve in a relatively short time. Judgement on what to do in certain rvr situations takes months. Strive to be the best and you'll do well. I'd also recommend remapping your controls to ESDF for movement - frees up a lot of nearby keys for quickbinding etc. Also get yourself one of those 5 button mice, they're so useful when panning. Just remember that you can't be instantly good as a bard, I was fucking shit for a long time.

To be a bard is to be a leader, in more ways than one.

 

[Mastade]

I guess it's a bad time to ask for advice on how to bard since there are none of the 'better' bards left in daoc (Blazie, Fame, Miss, Pbuck, Walker and ahem, myself). I had the privelage of learning from Fame and Miss - usually grouped with me on one of their alts telling me where I went wrong. Criticise yourself - after each fight tell yourself what you done wrong, even if you did wtfpwn the mid-fotm-group or alb-zerg.

Best advice I can give you is to practice pan-mezzing on hard-to-target mobs. Reactions are something you can improve in a relatively short time. Judgement on what to do in certain rvr situations takes months. Strive to be the best and you'll do well. I'd also recommend remapping your controls to ESDF for movement - frees up a lot of nearby keys for quickbinding etc. Also get yourself one of those 5 button mice, they're so useful when panning. Just remember that you can't be instantly good as a bard, I was fucking shit for a long time.

To be a bard is to be a leader, in more ways than one.

Remember Tzee(Saadyst) spamming the very first Fame, on how to play bard.. was fun times :x - giv back old days

 

[Vuokko]

/me gnubber Saadyst !!

 

[Divinia]

useless shitnoob fucker tips ok mate? any bard who didnt have it in your veins /ebay... please?

 

[Divinia]

oh god

 

[Gear]

Anyone here opens up with sos? The bard is semi toa'd anyway and has done most of the MLs, I'll respec her to sojo ofc.

Thanks for your replies all, it definitelly takes practice to learn. The only advantage I have so far is my knowledge of the geography of NF. I'll try to make up the rest of it. Whether I can pull it through, time will tell

 

[Ganyarx]

(Blazie, Fame, Miss, Pbuck, Walker and ahem, myself).
To be a bard is to be a leader, in more ways than one.

Where did I go in that line gargo ? ? :touch:

 

[Ganyarx]

IMO u wont make a good bard before rr5 atleast, not that much the ra´s (advantage tho) but u´ll prolly first get the hang of it at that time =) so dont give up on it...

and that reply where u will get yell´d at and all will be angry is true..
Good luck with ur bard,

 

[Vodkafairy]

lol zwea

one time when i was playing alb i tried to fight your grp but you ran all the way from dcx to mmg without noticing us, was fairly silly