Bard Mezz

[Beccy]

Any RA's, Arties etc etc that will increase a mezz chance too stick in PvP? Is it generaly get as much + in music + in charisma as possible?

 

[Mckennitt]

Bards mezz = rr + charisma
Mezz resist by enemy : charisma + rr = enemy rr and resist on that type
Mezz resist by mob : charisma = mobs resist on that type of spell.

Cheers

 

[Danya]

Currently there are no RAs that reduce resist chance of mezz for bards.
Chance to totally resist a spell is based on spell level and target level alone. Charisma, your spec etc. have no effect.
Duration is based only on the spell itself and your target's resists, plus any toa +dur gear you have. Again charisma and spec make no difference whatsoever.
The only things charisma does is increases your power pool and increases your DD damage. Spec/rr will only increase DD damage.

In NF you can get the ability mastery of focus which boosts the effective level of the spell for outright resist purposes.

 

[dwystah]

also depend on the lvl of ur mez spell, ie the lvl 29 single insta will be resisted alot more than others,

 

[oblimov]

spell duration as well

 

[Divinia]

Charisma got fuck all to do with mezzing, (if you dont count the manapool as something to do with it)

Only thing that matters is spell level versus enemy's own level. i.e. you can't do a shit to make it land easier, and with CB you not gonna get a full group mejt.

 

[Ogen]

just spam spam spam

/says the littul luwi :wub:

 

[Divinia]

Bards mezz = rr + charisma
Mezz resist by enemy : charisma + rr = enemy rr and resist on that type
Mezz resist by mob : charisma = mobs resist on that type of spell.

Cheers

This is scary tbh....

 

[oblimov]

Charisma got fuck all to do with mezzing, (if you dont count the manapool as something to do with it)

Only thing that matters is spell level versus enemy's own level. i.e. you can't do a shit to make it land easier, and with CB you not gonna get a full group mejt.

what actually is cha for then ?

and why do we aim to max it if it doesnt affect mezz, and we dont really heal, and songs dont work better + or - cha

 

[Divinia]

Charisma affects powerpool, and also DD's (wich are also affected by +music, it is infact the only thing the musicstat does when it gets + in it)


and:
Songs "work" better or worse depending on quality and level of your instrument (the pulses last longer, try to twist with two grayconning instruments)

 

[oblimov]

aye i know bout the power and DD but im sure it affects ur mezz m8 as well

yeah qual of items as well but most of us use harp now

so in effect what ur saying is maxing char just ensures we have a wee bit more power to allow us to cast more mezz and lull etc

 

[Teiten]

cha might make alittle diffrence, but i seriously doubt it makes a huge impact.

and besides mezz dur items and powerpool increases > cha so its nothing you should worry about getting +26 cap to _imo_

 

[Divinia]

aye i know bout the power and DD but im sure it affects ur mezz m8 as well

yeah qual of items as well but most of us use harp now

so in effect what ur saying is maxing char just ensures we have a wee bit more power to allow us to cast more mezz and lull etc

maxing a bard since toa doesent involve capping charisma, getting power% bonus is more effective, and most bards got aug auc3 for some bonus in charisma anyway, wich gives you about normally 50-65charisma from items in your SC=you dont craft any Charisma on crafted armorparts. And yes, we only get charisma for manapool, a good bard go oom quick (not counting use of mcl/rp/pots) even w/o using any heal.

And NO Charisma doesent affect how much mezz lands on the enemy, it is purely Spell level vs. Enemys own level.

cha might make alittle diffrence, but i seriously doubt it makes a huge impact.

and besides mezz dur items and powerpool increases > cha so its nothing you should worry about getting +26 cap to _imo_

Getting mezzdur before NF is dull, the 3min purge will make mezz only use the right to strike first, if even that.

And NO Charisma doesent affect how much mezz lands on the enemy, it is purely Spell level vs. Enemys own level.

 

[oblimov]

ah hmmm

cheers div for clearing that up

thats wierd then how my insta single always usually lands on peeps when its a blue con spell and their all 50

 

[Teiten]

ah hmmm

cheers div for clearing that up

thats wierd then how my insta single always usually lands on peeps when its a blue con spell and their all 50

mine gets resisted all the bloody time, makes it alot more frustrating to loose insta war even if you were faster :x

 

[oblimov]

i thought u didnt mezz

 

[Vantros of the Delerium]

mine gets resisted all the bloody time, makes it alot more frustrating to loose insta war even if you were faster :x

for it to get resisted u have to cast it m8 xD

 

[odon]

Are you sure that the enemy is not just purging your mezz?

I have not noticed that my mezzes get resisted, they simply get purged a lot.

So within DA we tend to have a secondary CC within the group.

I do have a question on this topic though...

Personally I find it very frustrating that both mid and alb seem to have CC's that can deal out 2 forms of CC (stun and paral).. if this is not the case then I am sorry, as I am a noob when it comes to Mid and Alb classes to be honest (spit). Maybe someone who is not so much of a casual player at the moment please explain what these other two realms get..?

Why is it that I have only one form of CC? Once they have been mezzed I am stuffed for controlling them... unless I defo have another CC in the group.

Also: Has hib ever thought about not using the standard bard in front tactic? I have tried this a few times and it works really well, as does running with two bards, well i would try 8, but I think it might be overkill?

 

[Teiten]

odon yeah im 100% sure.

 

[Vodkafairy]

lol mckennit, sorry but you should really go be ashamed for that post

char = powerpool
resist rate = lvl of spell compared to lvl of target
skill = reduce dmg variance (no variance at all if skill = level of target)

things that fuck up mez =

low lvl spell (44), often outright resisted, get mofocus 2 or so to decrease resist rate in NF

ceremonial bracer, re-cast mez

dropoff = lower duration at the edges

 

[Danya]

Personally I find it very frustrating that both mid and alb seem to have CC's that can deal out 2 forms of CC (stun and paral).. if this is not the case then I am sorry, as I am a noob when it comes to Mid and Alb classes to be honest (spit). Maybe someone who is not so much of a casual player at the moment please explain what these other two realms get..?

Stun and paralyse are the same thing.
As for what they get:
Healers get mez and stun in spec AE forms (pac), and single mez, stun and root baseline.
Sorcs get mez and root in spec AE forms (mind and body), and single mez and root baseline.

 

[Beccy]

Thx =) Much usefull information in this post.

 

[WiiWii]

Stun and paralyse are the same thing.
As for what they get:
Healers get mez and stun in spec AE forms (pac), and single mez, stun and root baseline.
Sorcs get mez and root in spec AE forms (mind and body), and single mez and root baseline.

healers get singletarget root in pac specline

 

[Alme]

Bards mezz = rr + charisma
Mezz resist by enemy : charisma + rr = enemy rr and resist on that type
Mezz resist by mob : charisma = mobs resist on that type of spell.

Cheers

lol.. as div says only spell lvl vs enemy lvl matters. Enemys body resist only effects the DUR of ure mezz, not the resist rate. This is pvp tho, no idea how things work in pve

 

[Danya]

healers get singletarget root in pac specline

Yeah for some reason I thought it was base.

 

[Danya]

lol.. as div says only spell lvl vs enemy lvl matters. Enemys body resist only effects the DUR of ure mezz, not the resist rate. This is pvp tho, no idea how things work in pve

In PvE it's mob level vs spell. There's no duration fall off from radius or resists. Remezzing halves duration in PvE also.

 

[Kiiz]

lol mckennit, sorry but you should really go be ashamed for that post

char = powerpool
resist rate = lvl of spell compared to lvl of target
skill = reduce dmg variance (no variance at all if skill = level of target)

things that fuck up mez =

low lvl spell (44), often outright resisted, get mofocus 2 or so to decrease resist rate in NF

ceremonial bracer, re-cast mez

dropoff = lower duration at the edges

Thats why I love Vf :touch:

 

[gunner440]

Bards mezz = rr + charisma
Mezz resist by enemy : charisma + rr = enemy rr and resist on that type
Mezz resist by mob : charisma = mobs resist on that type of spell.

Cheers

i can confirm this

read it on VN the other day

 

[Mirt]

>read it on VN the other day

Yes!

I can also confirm that VN is the font of all knowledge, and that everything that's written there is the absolute truth, unadulterated by wajn!

 

[Danya]

gunz don't be norty.