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Aada

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I liked Bush, atleast he had the balls to get Saddam removed from power once and for all.

People talk about Bush as though he has started the end of the world!!!!

He did the world a fucking favour by removing Saddam, a total madman who enjoyed using experimental weapons on local neighbours.
 

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SawTooTH said:
I think the Democrats have gone to war far more often than the Republicans?

No, the Republicans have had more wars, but the Dems had WWI & II so it looks like more. You have to call the Civil War a tie, although technically Lincoln declared it, and he was a Republican.

Aada said:
liked Bush, atleast he had the balls to get Saddam removed from power once and for all.

People talk about Bush as though he has started the end of the world!!!!

He did the world a fucking favour by removing Saddam, a total madman who enjoyed using experimental weapons on local neighbours.

He's presided over two unwinnable wars; a collapse of the entire western financial system (caused by Republican abdication of responsibility for regulation), but yeah, he managed to get rid of Sadaam, who was no threat to anyone but his own people, and he still managed to fuck up that through the total lack of understanding of the world outside his own borders. Big fucking whoop.
 

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Aada, using logic like that would mean that the Bush administration should have sorted the Russians out and the North Korenas out and the Chinese out and the Iranians out.

It was nothing to do with Hussein and more to do with the flow of Oil and the continuation of the fucked up American dream.

American foreign policy is of a bullying nature, do what we say or we will bomb the fuck out of you. We have the UN to deal with these situations where countries leaders are fucked up, but Mr Bush and his cronies (read Tony Blair) decided that they would go against the UN.
 

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Yeah the massive loss of life in Iraq since the Us and UK stepped in has been well worth it.

Face it Aada, if Bush was such a good person he would have dealt with mugabe as well. But he didn't have any oil.
 

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The UN is a pile of pooh and couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery....this is also why some countries decide to go against the UN and do their own thing...I'm not saying its write or wrong but if the UN grew a pair of balls perhaps the world may just be a better place.

Just maybe...
 

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i guess ill have to stop using my favourite saying "america will have a black president before i get laid again" and its true :(
 

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No, the Republicans have had more wars, but the Dems had WWI & II so it looks like more. You have to call the Civil War a tie, although technically Lincoln declared it, and he was a Republican.

not really true.
Korea and Vietnam were started under democratic presidents. Ignoring the wars before (and so called police actions) and the democratic presidents have had more wars.
 

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not really true.
Korea and Vietnam were started under democratic presidents. Ignoring the wars before (and so called police actions) and the democratic presidents have had more wars.

I counted Korea (Truman). Vietnam started under Eisenhower (Republican). Everyone thinks it was Kennedy, but he just escalated it. And I haven't ignored the wars before that, or the police actions (which, by the way, was the technical description for Korea anyway). The Republicans are the biggest war-mongers overall.
 

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technically surely the french started the french indochina war before it even became vietnam, so it doesnt count :D

and i dont count the 5 year gap as viable ;)
 

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technically surely the french started the french indochina war before it even became vietnam, so it doesnt count :D

and i dont count the 5 year gap as viable ;)

No, the Americans started to send "advisors" to Indo-China even before the French left, and escalated that after Dien Bien Phu. The first regular American ground troops arrived in 1959, under Eisenhower.

And to take on your argument, the Americans didn't start WWI or II either, so if you're being picky that's two off the Democrat tally!
 

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I'm actually quite happy the US has a new president, not as I have anything against Bush (far from it. Can you imagine how fucked the world would be if Gore had won?), more that I have a lot against shit comedians both on TV and on here using Bush as an easy target.

Politics is a big bag of arse anyway. I can't think of a subject, apart from possibly religion, that bores the shit out of me more.
 

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Fair point Bods. Imagine president Gore declaring war on ManBearPig again and again :/
 

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He generally has the right ideas, but sadly he may find that having the right ideas alone may not be enough.
 

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No, the Republicans have had more wars, but the Dems had WWI & II so it looks like more. You have to call the Civil War a tie, although technically Lincoln declared it, and he was a Republican.

Didn't Kennedy get the US into Vietnam?
 

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Anyone would be better than that fucking useless mumbling chimp that was there previously. What a hopeless fuck, my god.

I've seen Barack speaking a few times; he seems calm and charismatic, no wonder they call him Black Kennedy.
 

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Jeezo, he's aged bloody well if that's the case!

Ooh oh, i see what you did there. Like, person instead of president, funny. Haha. Yeah, you got me man. Totally. How silly of me. Noone probably got what i meant with it. Dude, thanks for that. IT's like...TOTALLY funny. I'm rolling on the floor here. What do the cool kids say? ROFL? YEah, i'm ROFL'ing my a** off here. Aha...haha....yeah.
 

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His mum is a white Irish lady! How does that make him a "black" president...mixed race yes. Black no. He's as much as a "white" president as he is a black one...
 

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Ooh oh, i see what you did there. Like, person instead of president, funny. Haha. Yeah, you got me man. Totally. How silly of me. Noone probably got what i meant with it. Dude, thanks for that. IT's like...TOTALLY funny. I'm rolling on the floor here. What do the cool kids say? ROFL? YEah, i'm ROFL'ing my a** off here. Aha...haha....yeah.

lol what are you trying to achieve there? Perhaps just accept you made a mistake and not try to fight back.
 

old.Tohtori

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Face it toht. You fucked up and he owned you.

lol what are you trying to achieve there? Perhaps just accept you made a mistake and not try to fight back.

No no, nothing at all, it was a good call, funny, i'm cracking up you know, still funny as hell. Honestly, it was like "zing!" and i keeled over with laughter.
 

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No no, nothing at all, it was a good call, funny, i'm cracking up you know, still funny as hell. Honestly, it was like "zing!" and i keeled over with laughter.

Sorry toto, but that's a definite fail :)
 

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