Balanced?

[Teheron]

Careful note, this SB does have a pet, called Nalistah...
So Aussie is not completely wrong.

I wish i had a pet called Nalistah.. But i was solo. I know this is a hard concept for you to grasp but sometimes ppl go out solo..

 

[Marczje]

Izasku pretty much managed the same damage to me, with capped melee resist, studded and + ~55 to af.. gogo 5.8 spd bows :<

 

[Jaem-]

Learn how to play as intended, zerg your enemy it causes nice interupts to bow...

Btw, 1771 dmg taken, does that mean you have low hp/added n lost/was added upon?

 

[Stinkies]

Excuse me? Where in the world do ranger and hunter bows do MORE damage than scout bows so that you HAVE to spec high in bow to do normal damage?

Bow is the only way to do damage as a scout, their melee spec is pretty crappy.
So unlike rangers and hunters, they have to go high in bow, instead of a ranger who can keep bow low if they feel like it, and just melee gank most people.
Bow damage is the same among all 3 classes if same spec and dex stats.

 

[zx^]

Bow is the only way to do damage as a scout, their melee spec is pretty crappy.
So unlike rangers and hunters, they have to go high in bow, instead of a ranger who can keep bow low if they feel like it, and just melee gank most people.
Bow damage is the same among all 3 classes if same spec and dex stats.

i see u havent watched any of the Movies from Saifang ?.

i got 30 in slash and my cap with amethyst is 250-300 aprox....
thats without crit.

and bow damage cant be the same since alb got highest spd bows.

 

[Gear]

Bow is the only way to do damage as a scout, their melee spec is pretty crappy.
So unlike rangers and hunters, they have to go high in bow, instead of a ranger who can keep bow low if they feel like it, and just melee gank most people.
Bow damage is the same among all 3 classes if same spec and dex stats.

I was beaten by sai on a pure melee duel (with my previous temp, I'll give you another one when I'm done leveling artis ) so I wouldn't say that scout's cant melee.

 

[Marczje]

Bow is the only way to do damage as a scout, their melee spec is pretty crappy.
So unlike rangers and hunters, they have to go high in bow, instead of a ranger who can keep bow low if they feel like it, and just melee gank most people.
Bow damage is the same among all 3 classes if same spec and dex stats.

I think saifang proves you wrong.


edit: damn u gear, beat me to it

 

[Gear]

edit: damn u gear, beat me to it

Slow day at work

 

[Marczje]

Busy summarising 5 chapters of my marketing book, bet it's more boring than at work

 

[Aussie]

isn't teheron member of pain, he got enough pets

woot

 

[Smilewhenyousaythat]

Is it one of pains pre-reqs that you must suck ass spectacularly?

 

[Vodkafairy]

nothing wrong with melee specced scouts, its just that in the current state of daoc, range is > melee most of the time

and yeah scouts on a whole atm are ridiculess, but its not really classwise, just that relics and zephyr make scouts a joke atm. other than the crazy range i think scouts are fine

 

[Aussie]

proof of sb with pet !

 

[Stinkies]

I find it hard to believe that even if a scout would go 50 thrust/slash, a ranger with dualwield would not be able to own the scout, but if you all say so fine.
It is important to note Sparmer Albion does not have the slowest bows anymore. It used to be like that, but now Hibernia has access to the same speed bows.

Also, Zephyr is also available to rangers and to hunters.

 

[Vodkafairy]

zephyr in general is very overpowered, they should have kept the timer but made sure you can't take damage during fz. it would still give a nice range advantage but not an insta-win button like it is atm.

shieldspec does equal dual wield, sure you get a penalty, but you still block loads. combined with spec AF which makes a bigger difference than haste, melee scouts do fine. relics are ofcourse also very important

 

[Bloodaxe_Springskalle]

Aussie, you where the scout that where leading 2FG+ non stealthers zergs back in daoc classic just after TS was released.... so don't you bark so loud about "pets"

 

[Aussie]

to clean the SB zerg at atk in old emain, ye those were good times, runs of 7 or 8 sbs uncovering was my best :')

 

[Bloodaxe_Springskalle]

to clean the SB zerg at atk in old emain, ye those were good times, runs of 7 or 8 sbs uncovering was my best :')

and the 7-8 SB zerged to counter the 7-8 inf+minstrel+scout groups etc. who started doesent matter cos it's no excuse.
what u did was still lame and old sins aint erased

 

[zx^]

It is important to note Sparmer Albion does not have the slowest bows anymore. It used to be like that, but now Hibernia has access to the same speed bows.

so hibs got a 5.8 speed bow now ? nice1. wha about hunters .. since they are archers to

 

[Edaemos]

Hunters slowest bow is 5.3 speed, hibs have more slower toa bows than albion where as albions artifact bows are slower, hibs also have access to 5.8 spd immolated bows.

 

[illu]

Basically izasku is a tough cookie, simply because if it looks like you are going to kill him - he's off like the fastest olympic swimmer - hell - he's like a speedboat going through the water :>

I've killed him maybe 1 time for every 15 times he's killed me, and that's never been 1on1.

If he is close to you, you'll get shot out of stealth with the MOS5 ability, if you run for him, you'll get slammed, then FZ'd. IF he misses with FZ, then he'll jump in the water and zip off

I've hit him with the Crippling poison and the weakening/crippling poison and he still sprints away.

And if you do eventually get him to 20% or so, one of his pals he sometimes duo's or trio's with will take you down.

Oh hang on a minute - actually this is Roxen :>

No matter - all alb archers are the same Giv FZ nerf now, so that we SB's have a small chance of winning please :>

Otherwise well played archers types using full advantage of their classes abilities and relics.

Oli - Illu

 

[Aussie]

I have never seen a scout play with 5.8 bow, it's just too slow.

 

[lofff]

aussie u could at least have matched the UI ;p~

 

[lofff]

and the only really wrong thing with scouts is their range. (id also tone down the dmg.. but thats mostly a relic matter -.- )

 

[Jaem-]

Giv FZ nerf now, so that we SB's have a small chance of winning please :>

SB with Arrogance active and purge at the ready > me pretty easily tbh, but I'm a gimp so don't count I guess. ;P

 

[Smilewhenyousaythat]

and the only really wrong thing with scouts is their range. (id also tone down the dmg.. but thats mostly a relic matter -.- )

And it was Ok when hib had 20% magic bonus and mid 20% mellee?

Methinks said realms had forgotten what it felt like to be on the receiving end.

 

[Teheron]

isn't teheron member of pain, he got enough pets

woot

no mate im not a member of pain, never been a memeber of pain. Atm im a member of the Overlords, before that RG, and ive never been in a grp with more then 3ppl, most my rps have been duo or solo earned.

U wanna try again?

 

[StonyPony]

I find it hard to believe that even if a scout would go 50 thrust/slash, a ranger with dualwield would not be able to own the scout, but if you all say so fine.

Also, Zephyr is also available to rangers and to hunters.

I was 50 slash before (39 atm) i was hoping on rangers to jump me in meelee, they ate dirt so quick.

 

[StonyPony]

no mate im not a member of pain, never been a memeber of pain. Atm im a member of the Overlords, before that RG, and ive never been in a grp with more then 3ppl, most my rps have been duo or solo earned.

U wanna try again?

last time i met you, you were the one adding.

 

[Aussie]

no mate im not a member of pain, never been a memeber of pain. Atm im a member of the Overlords, before that RG, and ive never been in a grp with more then 3ppl, most my rps have been duo or solo earned.

U wanna try again?

oh right you're that SH nooblet from old emain who always grouped with Nalistah & uhm Urizen ?

woot yes you got 2 pets then