Bad raid leader?

[mo0nshine]

Im sick and tired off all the people flaming Ruathian for his "bad" raids and his behaviour.

Its this last thread he made, that wanted me to make this post, that post got nothing to do with what i write, but i saw something about him being a bad raid leader.

For the last weeks he havent held any raids. But one who actually has is Akyma.

Ok here starts the post.

Akyma, u ARE doing a great job holding the raids. BUT u scam all the ppl on your raids! U steal items every raid. The 2 or 3 raids u have had now i either fu*k someone over in lotto or something else.

Every raid there is missing drops, which u steal, and the drops that is left over u keep for yourself.

I want everyone to know this, since they call others bad raid leaders. If someone is a scammer it is her. Making lots of ppl to come on her raids and steal their items. its like ppl go on her raids to get her items.

One thing, sorry i had to flame u like this on BW, i know its very crap, it sux, and atleast when i dont say who i am. I wont either.
BW is a lame thing to write this stuff, but imo, u have been lame for some time now, so i think u should get some back.

On the other side, if im wrong about this, and u havent stole all those items (which most of the ppl i have talked to on your raids say u have). then im sorry to make this thread. I have myself only been to 2 of your raids. But i feel sorry for the new guys who show up and is treated like that. You should either change your way of being, and stop stealing items like that. Or i hope someone else is taking charge of the monday raids.

Again, u do a good job holding public raids, but stop stealing the items plz! Its not fair.

Regards
A raid member who didnt get any drops

 

[madmac_slammer]

i don't know if any of this is true, but i think Ruathian is a damn good leader, and he's a f*cking good friend aswell

 

[old.anubis]

if you dont agree with rules or dont like raid leader personally simply dont go to his raids
is it that difficult to understand?

ps. and rauthian is a bad leader, probably the worst i ever seen, that's why i dont go to his raids. been on two - got my opinion, kkthxbye

 

[bouh]

Originally posted by madmac_slammer
and he's a f*cking good friend aswell

what do ya mean?

 

[Djin]

Originally posted by bouh
what do ya mean?

rofl hehe nice one..


Tho i can agree some with the Thread maker.

I have been to Akymas raids. Yeh, shes doing a good job /clap
Maybe a bit too much spam in /chatgroup hehe but who cares?

Tho, last raid i did count the drops and i did see that atleast 3 stones were missing, where did they go? and the left over items from the other raids, did they go to Akymas vault? or did ppl get item?

I agree.. Dont go to the raids if u dont accept the rules.. ofc not. hehe if u first go u should accept the rules.. but hey, if the raid leader goes of with items for himself, then its kind of crap :-/

Tho, i dont know the truth here, so i wont say anything.

Indriid

 

[Iri]

Originally posted by mo0nshine
Akyma, u ARE doing a great job holding the raids.

LOL, a raidleader that charges Agmund'r and then go "WTF!" when entire raid almost get viped, forgets to kill snake-adds at Hakr and not tell ppl to turn off /say and /broad at Steinvor and K/Q etc etc and dont say much exept than "NO PULL MOOB" and "giv giv" is not a good raidleader imo...

And its really sad but TG seems to be the root of all evil and bring out ppl's darkest sides. I've been holding public raids and i know it can be very very frustrating when u get spammed with lots of requests of changing rules and nominations, ppl get mad at u for not doing so, sometimes noone seems to listen to anything u say and u constantly are trying to sort pm's and questions out, retriving all drops, and on top of that try lead the raid good so its not strange if raidleader can be abit rude, missing a pm etc, but its a SHAME when leaders take advantage of their position (acces to every item that drops) and start stealing drops or change lottorules to their own adwantage!

But what is even more sad is that the same ppl that gets screwed over come to raids arrange by known scammers and then get screwed over AGAIN and then go cry on BW, are u mindless sheeps? If a leader of a raid steals a single item or change the rules DONT ever attend a raid lead by him/her again, its u ppl that gives bad leaders the power to continue!

 

[Grimgors]

Ruathian is a very bad raid leader

In one of his raids he gave foe slayer to his m8

 

[np-insane]

Who really cares ?

 

[Archeon]

Re: Re: Bad raid leader?

Originally posted by Iri
LOL, a raidleader that charges Agmund'r and then go "WTF!" when entire raid almost get viped, forgets to kill snake-adds at Hakr and not tell ppl to turn off /say and /broad at Steinvor and K/Q etc etc and dont say much exept than "NO PULL MOOB" and "giv giv" is not a good raidleader imo...

We've all got to start somwhere, thats what i think atleast. Dunno about all this talk of item stealing, but putting that aside for the moment i think too many people are demanding perfection out of sombody who has only just started doing raids.


Still yeah, TG (and specifically, the Lotto at the end) does bring out the worst in people. Hopefully when the Focus nerf comes along and the only way to get TG items is to go on large scale (as in more than 1-2fg) people will start to be a little more civil... Who am i kidding, nothing will change. Just more people will come along making it more of a nightmare for the people running them

 

[rg-zorena]

Originally posted by np-insane
Who really cares ?

ppl who play däök

 

[mandom]

Originally posted by old.anubis
if you dont agree with rules or dont like raid leader personally simply dont go to his raids
is it that difficult to understand?

ps. and rauthian is a bad leader, probably the worst i ever seen, that's why i dont go to his raids. been on two - got my opinion, kkthxbye

where in the rules its said that raidleader will keep a few items and hope no one remember them?

 

[Carlos Bananos]

Originally posted by mandom
where in the rules its said that raidleader will keep a few items and hope no one remember them?

Which is not (imho) the way to run a public raid. Hence the reason he's a bad leader.


Which is why i don't go on his raids.

 

[Brylle Madness]

Ruathian for teh win

 

[old.Buffer]

Originally posted by madmac_slammer
i don't know if any of this is true, but i think Ruathian is a damn good leader, and he's a f*cking good friend aswell

If u are the original madmac from a long time ago, then good luck to u, and I hope u enjoy the company of the f*cking good friends you so well and truly deserve

 

[riv]

everyone in entitled to an opinion:

the raids of ruathin's that i've attened were well done, well executed, well attended. the drops were all handed in, all accounted for, and most people were happy it seemed.

the last raid of akyma's i went on, noone seemed to know what the fuck was happening. drops seemed to vanish into the crowd and never surface again; and after ten mins of people spamming about it, on we moved.

groups were running all over with no sense of coordination- at one point half the zerg had gone down further, the other half were up top fighting enemies from behind.

then came the wipeout as everyone decided to pull the entire place. oh what fun we had. was a disorganised mess. HOWEVER can't be too harsh since I think that may have been his/her first attempt at running it, and if noone else is prepared to do it, then i guess props for doing it.

also if akyma really is stealing items, then there's no excuse for going on any more of her raids.

 

[Kindar]

Never been on any of Akyma's raids, mostly cause i never had time....so hard to tell. Although i did hear rumors from a friend about missing drops.
I was on a few of Rauthian's raids, but nothing was wrong there. Didn't have time that day to join, when he did the little "trick" with Foe Slayer.

It is a sad thing, that some players and raid leaders try to sneak out items. You need a strong hand to prevent players from this, but hard when the raid leaders take items.
The best you can do, is mainly to count items, don't use time on the raid....or lead the raid yourself ^^

 

[Iri]

Re: Re: Re: Bad raid leader?

Originally posted by Archeon
We've all got to start somwhere, thats what i think atleast. Dunno about all this talk of item stealing, but putting that aside for the moment i think too many people are demanding perfection out of sombody who has only just started doing raids.

Start by going to a number of raids lead by someone else and learn how TG-works imo ^^

 

[murazor]

Akyma could say in raid rules shes claiming any one item she chooses like the 50p warrior hauberk and all people would still have come. So why steal 3 stones worth 7-9 plat? If stuff missing then probably thru people not handing stuff in. Her raids could be better but they bring K&Q items into Mid. What happens to the crap items left over? Thought they were sold for relic fund? Some clarity on this might help...

Iris raid, good solid bog standard raid...

Indriids raid was nice raid...

Ruaths raids are fine too if you accept the erratic lotto decisions. That said its hard to make right choice all time when people mega spamming.

More raids the better Imho whoever leads them. Will stop me farming all drops for myself

Finally, what do raid leaders get from raids other than flame? Seems to me most people whine about what they themselves get without ever thinking about how it is for the Raid Leader. Id lead raids but cant be bothered to put up with all the thief and h8 whine from people Im trying to help. Maybe Mid gets the raids we deserve.

 

[Archeon]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Bad raid leader?

Originally posted by Iri
Start by going to a number of raids lead by someone else and learn how TG-works imo ^^

Thats just so blinding... right, i can't really come up with anything to reply to that, besides maybe yelling some kind of derogatory personal insult... or possibly whining about how unfair it is that my toe-nails grow...

So i'm just gonna add this totally off-topic comic strip i just read.

[Edit: Was naughty and directly linked the picture, Cartoon can be found here]

Finally, what do raid leaders get from raids other than flame? Seems to me most people whine about what they themselves get without ever thinking about how it is for the Raid Leader. Id lead raids but cant be bothered to put up with all the thief and h8 whine from people Im trying to help. Maybe Mid gets the raids we deserve.

Disturbing point, now that i think about it the only TG items i've ever gotten were won at other peopels raids... its a curse i tell you, Raid Leaders are cursed to get bad /random's on their own raids!!!!!

 

[giftshop]

akymas first raid 11 drops where not lottoed and never where
akymas secound raid 4 drops where not lottoed and never where
akymas last raid 3 drops where not lottoed and never where thats a total of 20 drops that have vanished in 3 raids( and suprise suprise few days latter akyma posting tg drops for sale on bw)
so it does not take a guy wiityh 200 iq to put the 2 facts together that drops missing from akymas raids then drops sold by akyma few days latter

as for that incident regarrding rua and the foe i belive this game is a democrecy and that majority rules so if 18 ppl vote to do somthing and 16 say yes to me you do what the majority says to do.
i was on that raid and i never voted as it did not want the sword so it never effected me so i belive rua did the right this be following what the majority said to do.
but what amazes me is i belive rua did 43 tg raids colected over 1500 tg drops for realm and every one has a pop over 1 incident where he actualy alowed the cg to decide something its no wounder he is not runing 3 fg tg elder/kingraids and not public raids(fom i belive where frst to benerfit from this with a 3fg tg raid that killed 5 of the elders but wiped out when pop on king) 24 ppl 33 drops was a good raid

 

[etcetra]

Originally posted by mo0nshine
Regards
A raid member who didnt get any drops

3 reasons to why im having a hard time believing this.

No facts what so ever, not even an example.
Youre choosing to keep your name a secret.
And from my experiences with Akyma i havent been scammed or anything once, and ive been farming some with her.

And, sure your not just mad about not getting drops? :|

 

[etcetra]

And about Ruathian, as you all might know he was in WR for a long while.

He was like running raids pretty often, he has also been kicked/he left some times. And then he did this public raid, WR came with 2 groups, we got 3 drops. He kept them, including my Legion Hauberk. And well, hes still got them all.

As if they are worth anything now :x

 

[Whisperess]

Re: Re: Bad raid leader?

Originally posted by etcetra
3 reasons to why im having a hard time believing this.

No facts what so ever, not even an example.
Youre choosing to keep your name a secret.
And from my experiences with Akyma i havent been scammed or anything once, and ive been farming some with her.

And, sure your not just mad about not getting drops? :|

I'm not keeping my name secret though.

Letting a level 45 healer - that's below the minimum requirement of lvl 48 that was clearly stated in the rules for that raid - walk home with 2 drops - even though the raid rules clearly stated that you can only walk away from there with 1 drop - after giving her a +20 to her roll on the SB jerkin from a list that nobody got to see even though specifically asked about by myself prior to the raid - effeciently landing on one (1) above a SB guildie of mine - cutting him off from the drop.

That is the reason I will never ever attend any of Akyma's raids and will suggest to guildies not to attend ( can't stop them ofc, their choice ).

Not only that, he's an annoying twat over /as at numerous occassions.
If he can't stand my opinion, so be it - I don't have to hide behind fake BW accounts to state my opinion.

 

[Iri]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bad raid leader?

Originally posted by Archeon
Thats just so blinding... right, i can't really come up with anything to reply to that, besides maybe yelling some kind of derogatory personal insult... or possibly whining about how unfair it is that my toe-nails grow...

Well i think if u arrange a raid u have responisibility for the ~80 ppl or something that shows up, they dont want a complete chaos and lots of yelling simply because raidleader havent got a clue about how the place he's gonna raid works. Its not to much to ask that if u are gonna arrange a raid, u get knowledge about it before u try. Ofc ppl that attend the raid do it because of the items they have a chance to win but theres a BIG difference if u have fun during the raid or just simply try to put up with it, being irritated and bored for 5-6 hours, just waiting for the lotto...

 

[Vell]

Originally posted by giftshop
akymas first raid 11 drops where not lottoed and never where
akymas secound raid 4 drops where not lottoed and never where
akymas last raid 3 drops where not lottoed and never where thats a total of 20 drops that have vanished in 3 raids( and suprise suprise few days latter akyma posting tg drops for sale on bw)
so it does not take a guy wiityh 200 iq to put the 2 facts together that drops missing from akymas raids then drops sold by akyma few days latter

as for that incident regarrding rua and the foe i belive this game is a democrecy and that majority rules so if 18 ppl vote to do somthing and 16 say yes to me you do what the majority says to do.
i was on that raid and i never voted as it did not want the sword so it never effected me so i belive rua did the right this be following what the majority said to do.
but what amazes me is i belive rua did 43 tg raids colected over 1500 tg drops for realm and every one has a pop over 1 incident where he actualy alowed the cg to decide something its no wounder he is not runing 3 fg tg elder/kingraids and not public raids(fom i belive where frst to benerfit from this with a 3fg tg raid that killed 5 of the elders but wiped out when pop on king) 24 ppl 33 drops was a good raid

Lol, I wonder who's second BW account this is


A good raid leader needs to have respect from the people on the raid, as weel as know the dungeon, and be able to run the lotto well. Most of the raid leaders in Mid are missing at least 1 of these. Imo, the only 2 'good' raid leaders who have run hunts recently are Iri and Archeon - and as such I won't go on a raid arranged by the others. Well, and the BC raids of course, /kiss Bouh

If you don't like a raid leaders methods, don't go on the raids - they'll soon get the message that way.

 

[Archeon]

Originally posted by Vell
Imo, the only 2 'good' raid leaders who have run hunts recently are Iri and Archeon - and as such I won't go on a raid arranged by the others.

Awww, stuff like that makes all the abuse worth it

 

[Glenmorangie]

Originally posted by Archeon
Awww, stuff like that makes all the abuse worth it

What are you waiting for then

Havent been on any raid of Iri yet, but only yours and some private raids have been fair and worth the effort and didnt leave me with a feeling of injustice etc

 

[Akyma]

Ok, if u dont want come at my raids, dont come, no is my problen.
I copy the lotto sistem from other serber, and is the best systen i think.

I dont steal items, i got all items in a bault. I want make a shoop (only can buy items with RBs[+10s]) A lot of ppl send me in game 4 buy this items, and i dont sell it... check
here 4 one RB post of other serber.

I sell a lot of items from TG, but i go TG all days with my summoning team. I make this raids 4 us, i dont need lost one day making a public raid & lost a raid in other serber.

I DONT WIN ITEM IN MONDAYS RAIDS, if miss items is cause u attack send, pulls, etc

giftshop, realy i dont remember many items i have at bault, but in second raid only 1 item "no lottoed", SB helm.

I tired of problens with monday raids, remember all monday i lost 2 or 3 Tg items 4 make u raid adn dont go with my sumoning team.

 

[Archeon]

Originally posted by Glenmorangie
What are you waiting for then

A stable Internet connection

 

[Iri]

Originally posted by Akyma

I sell a lot of items from TG, but i go TG all days with my summoning team. I make this raids 4 us, i dont need lost one day making a public raid & lost a raid in other serber.

Sooo... U go TG every day with ur summoning team and still u feel the need to take 1 item for u, every raid u make + all stuffs that just seem to disappere...