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Larc

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As a darkness sm would you think it would be overpowered if my mezzes were trippled in duration and they got bolt range, if i had pom, if i could demezz, if i had speed, if i had mez reduction buffs and got to keep best lifedrain and pet?










Oh i would be a sorc then :mad:
 

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But had the life expectancy of gold fish in a blender.
 

Larc

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vintervargen said:
can my ranger get h2h spec, parry, selfbuffs and determination too ?!

You can't really compare a stealther to a tank. And it is getting determination and it has selfbuffs :p .
 

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Well the biggest reason to spec darkness as a SM is too own solo aint it?
for grouping Supp is by far the best spec?

Only reason darkness sms are so strong solo is because of their intercepting pet combined with ability to moc lifedrain, take intercept pet away and sure you will be a gimped version of a sorc, but most classes usually have few not so good speclines and supp is still kinda good compared to a icewizz aint it.
 

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Larc said:
As a darkness sm would you think it would be overpowered if my mezzes were trippled in duration and they got bolt range, if i had pom, if i could demezz, if i had speed, if i had mez reduction buffs and got to keep best lifedrain and pet?










Oh i would be a sorc then :mad:
aye hardly any difference :twak: :m00:
 

old.Sko

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spec darkness and be gimped sorc
spec supp and be gimped mana eldrich with pet ~
 

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Larc said:
As a darkness sm would you think it would be overpowered if my mezzes were trippled in duration and they got bolt range, if i had pom, if i could demezz, if i had speed, if i had mez reduction buffs and got to keep best lifedrain and pet?










Oh i would be a sorc then :mad:


give cleric all the tools that healers have and i wouldnt complain if u had that :) comparing a mid caster (that isnt your realms main cc) to our main cc is stupid .
 

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old.Sko said:
spec darkness and be gimped sorc
spec supp and be gimped mana eldrich with pet ~

a mana eldritch with a pet that intercepts ALL the time, i know what i would choose,,
 

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Jpeg[LOD] said:
give cleric all the tools that healers have and i wouldnt complain if u had that :) comparing a mid caster (that isnt your realms main cc) to our main cc is stupid .

lol, if Clerics had all the tools Healer's have they'd scream. Primary Healer - Primary Buffer And Primary CC class! Lol, Healer's don't have enough spec points as it is, I dread to think how bad it would be for Clerics if they have to split those limited points between 3 lines! :eek6:
 

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Jpeg[LOD] said:
give cleric all the tools that healers have and i wouldnt complain if u had that :) comparing a mid caster (that isnt your realms main cc) to our main cc is stupid .

I'm not comparing to main cc. I'm comparing all in all a darkness sm is a gimp subset of a sorc.
A cleric has tools the healer has not and vice versa but all the tools a darkness sm has the sorc has better versions of them. (apart from intercept pet, sms only saving grace).
 

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Larc said:
I'm not comparing to main cc. I'm comparing all in all a darkness sm is a gimp subset of a sorc.
A cleric has tools the healer has not and vice versa but all the tools a darkness sm has the sorc has better versions of them. (apart from intercept pet, sms only saving grace).
Yeh, we have base dd and spec dd in smite line, seems Mythic forgot when reduced spec smite casting time from 4 to 3 that smite specced clerics actually have only 1 spell in base line. (Yeh, I know it's not really related with your thread, but whining about gimpness of smite is my favourite topic ;) )
 

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Archeon said:
lol, if Clerics had all the tools Healer's have they'd scream. Primary Healer - Primary Buffer And Primary CC class! Lol, Healer's don't have enough spec points as it is, I dread to think how bad it would be for Clerics if they have to split those limited points between 3 lines! :eek6:

Why split specc points?

Use 1 cleric CC specced / leftovers in reju

Look! we have a copycat of mid pac healers!!!

:m00:
 

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Larc said:
I'm not comparing to main cc. I'm comparing all in all a darkness sm is a gimp subset of a sorc.
A cleric has tools the healer has not and vice versa but all the tools a darkness sm has the sorc has better versions of them. (apart from intercept pet, sms only saving grace).

Sorc is Albions main CC, so you are indeed comparing it to main cc....
Regards, Glottis
 

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Larc said:
As a darkness sm would you think it would be overpowered if my mezzes were trippled in duration and they got bolt range, if i had pom, if i could demezz, if i had speed, if i had mez reduction buffs and got to keep best lifedrain and pet?










Oh i would be a sorc then :mad:


Yes, a sorc whit permanent pet, 3 debuffs ,pbaoe mezz and espec lifedrain 189 delve 90%!!! return, and the chose to espec a secondary line whit pbaoe whit a damage you can debuff yourself, just like a sorc yeah.... :m00:
 

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Antedeluvian said:
Yes, a sorc whit permanent pet, 3 debuffs ,pbaoe mezz and espec lifedrain 189 delve 90%!!! return, and the chose to espec a secondary line whit pbaoe whit a damage you can debuff yourself, just like a sorc yeah.... :m00:

Sorc pet is also permanent... not like it expires after 10 mins after charm. Sorcs get lvl 50 baseline lifedrain 179dmg (BTW sm spec lifedrain is 183 not 189 i.e. mere 4 dmg more than baseline sorc one.)

If you're gonna have the last spec lifedrain and spec suppression you get the weak green pbaoe.
Debuff would be 30% singletarget. It really isnt practical to cast debuff on 8 ppl and hope they move into the hopefully other sm in grp that has specced supp spec. Trying to cast it to debuff ppl and hit them with your own green pbaoe is ridiculous.

Nice attempt at making it sound overpowered tho :sex:
 

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lol

its easy to roll out a list of a sorcerers abilities because granted they all look good on paper - most are useless in practical

i.e you say sorcs get baseline speed as well as saying they run demezz chant - they can only rin one at a time

Sorc pets arnt permanent - in fact a body sorc can only get a Maximum green con pet - lower than chanters, SM's and Cabalists

i would trade sorc pets ANYDAY for a caba/sm/chanter pet - especially the SM which intercepts

throught your spec lines:

You get a lifedrain similar to sorcerers, you get the same debuffs, you get access to the strongest pbaoe in game, you dont have to face savages, your not the realms primary CC class

Yes the sorcerer is a strong caster - but overpowered? no.
 

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Whilst we're at it, lets compare thanes to enchanters and armsmen to savages and......./sigh
 

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Larc said:
As a darkness sm would you think it would be overpowered if my mezzes were trippled in duration and they got bolt range, if i had pom, if i could demezz, if i had speed, if i had mez reduction buffs and got to keep best lifedrain and pet?












Oh i would be a sorc then :mad:


Stop whining and roll a bloody Sorc then :m00:
 

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