Avp

[Lamp]

Just saw AVP on DVD for the first time. Yeah I know its been out for ages. Yeah I know there's probably 200 posts on it, but don't care. I'm gonna have my 2 cents.

I enjoyed it. Watched the extended version. Certainly not an all time classic, but its the kind of movie you can just chuck on either on your own or with a few pals round, chill out, and just let the images wash over you.

I think its kind of unfair to criticise the film because it lacked the hightened tension of Alien / Aliens, and/or lacked certain aspects of conveying the sheer alien brutality / intelligence / stalking of the Predator.

Its not that kind of film ! Its Alien v Predator, Alien v Human, and in the end Alien v Predator & Human. I think its a tall order for any director (even Ridley Scott or James Cameron) to retrofit Alien-type clostrophobic terror in 90 minutes whilst giving a decent amount of time to the Predator. There simply isn't enough time to bond with the plight of the humans for you to care enough about them in order to feel terror at what lurks in the dark. Again I'll reiterate - its not that kind of movie.

(I mean in all honesty - how many who remember seeing the original Star Wars movies in a cinema when released - and who loved them - would say that the three new prequels were in no way a disappointment or intended to generate extra income for the franchise ? )

You also need to bear in mind that its based on the first comic series of AVP, with many of the movie's images being taken from the comic (such as the swarms of Aliens running up the Pyramid towards the Predator).

I think AVP needs to be taken for what it is. Just an enjoyable monster movie with a few special FX. If you watch AVP thinking its going to be another Alien or Predator clone you are going to be disappointed. Its not an adult movie so you can't expect buckets of gore either.

Of course one can dismiss it cynically as a movie just made to make cash, but what movie studio is going to spend $100m and not expect a return on their investment ? The cynics can kiss my ass.

I loved the little links to the Alien movie. Weyland playing with the pen like Bishop played with the knife between his fingers. The gently stirring chains. The nodding duck. Reflections of graphics in Predator's visors, and so on.

I enjoyed AVP, and personally I can't wait for the sequal. Predalien.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Liked the film, only grief is the shaky cam(tm) in fights. PEople should learn something from Matrix.

Fights are too often in movies done with the shake shake (your booty) camera and you can't really see what's going on.

Other then that, quite enjoyable albeit slow to start.

 

[Lamp]

Men have PMS too, it's called Post Marital Stress.

You heard of the all-women new delivery service ? UPMS

 

[Jaem-]

AvP explained quite abit on how the Predator and Alien came to be I thought, ok film, more of a one of dvd to watch on a rainy day kinda thing imo.

They left the ending of AvP so they can make another one imo, the Alien bursting out the dead Predator's body, I wonder if they will make a AvP2 sometime. Maybe can focus more on the Predator's more, to get to know them better.

 

[Lamp]

They WILL be making AVP2 - its going to be called Primal Hunt. The hybrid Alien-Predator is called a Predalien.

Looking forward to it.
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Aliens vs. Predator 2: Primal Hunt
On a routine mission hunt on Planet LV1201 a lone Predator finds a mysterious Artifact with the power to keep the savage Aliens at bay, and as legend has it, even ontrol their minds. The Predator triggers a stasis field, trapping him for 500 years until Dunya, a human Corporate mercenary, unwittingly frees him and escapes with the Artifact. Meanwhile, a PredAlien seeks to destroy the Artifact to preserve the sanctity of the Hive. Now the hunt is on to retrieve the mystical Artifact before Dunya escapes back to safety.
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[Aran Thule]

it was entertaining, as you mentioned its was hard to get too care to much for the characters as they barely got time to develop.
In Aliens the first half of the film was without action, you got to see the characters a bit, work out a few of thier personalities see how they worked together ect.
AvP didnt have that option, it tried its best and did well at its task which was in effect to become a popcorn munching film.
Main gripe was that it just seemed rushed, it was as if the aliens had a fast forward button, egg->facehugger->chestbuster->fully grown. sorry i blinked and missed it.

I got the comics when they first came out, what you are missing from the AvP comic shown on the dvd is the short story/introduction that appeared in thier 'dark horse presents' comic.
Another thing is that before it became a money spinning option the early aliens comics were very good.
If like me you think aliens 3 was a bit of a disappointment you might want to go read the first series.
Its black and white but well drawn and writen, set several years after aliens it follows the story with Hicks and Newt.
Second series was also very good but also in colour and followed on from the first series.

 

[Chronictank]

The film was ok, but could have been better
as above said it looked very rushed and not very well thought out, the fact the director had his gf who cant act as the main role didnt help matters
There are so many holes in the film that i gave up looking within the first 20 mins and viewed it as a simple acetion film.
Aliens and Predator fans will be disapointed but as a box office money cow was a typical american action movie

for AVP2 they should have kept the original name Praetorian instead of Pred-Alien ><

yes im a fan of the original AVP game

 

[Sissyfoo]

Agree with Chronic said. I found it disappointing from a fan's perspective but as soon as I switched off and started watching it for what it was (dumb action movie/money cow) I enjoyed it.

The effects were good and all that but it was soooo rushed. I half expected someone to appear at the end of the movie and tell us to hurry up and get the fuck out of the cinema.

The acting from the lead lady was a bit...um, iffy. I dunno, when I go to see a movie like this I expect to feel some kind of empathy with the humans, negative or positive. In this movie I didn't feel anything. It was a case of "He's dead, she's dead, they're dead now as well! Wow! The aliens grew fast. Now they're dead. So's the predator. Oh, is it time to leave the cinema now...?"

Having said that, I loved the games and the comics. The games were probably the scariest thing I've ever played on the pc!

 

[Ballard]

Dire acting, ridiculous plot (jesus i could have sworn the lead actress was gonna give the predators a hug and peck on the cheek at one point) and bad special effects. Seriously that was fuckin shit. Listening to coco-pops 'pop' is more likely to give you a scare.

 

[Huntingtons]

Dire acting, ridiculous plot (jesus i could have sworn the lead actress was gonna give the predators a hug and peck on the cheek at one point) and bad special effects. Seriously that was fuckin shit. Listening to coco-pops 'pop' is more likely to give you a scare.

totally agree.

 

[Ezteq]

I'm a huge fan of the aliens movies (loved em all, A3 was to me very enjoyable with all the brit actors using words like wanker etc this had to be explained to american audiences cos they didnt know what it ment lol) loved alien rez was so pleased when i heard they were making a 4th and really pleased when i saw it and wasnt dissapointed Ripley is one of my all time movie heros.

The predator movies too i love the first one is brilliant and the second one was great loved the way they took it to a totally differet setting etc and made it like a whole new story with a small reference to what happened in the jungle with arnie also in pred-2 they had an alien skull in the pred's trophy cabenet which i thought was a very neat touch.

and AvP well what can i say, the one thing im glad about is that they didnt make the predator all warm and fluffy and try to humanise them because that would just have been diabolical it was too short/rushed but then thats better imo than having a film that drags and makes you constantly look at your watch, it was total brain mush but very good enjoyable brain mush, gotta say i do love a good monstar flick (and for those of you who also love a rip roaring creature feature aviod "Frankenfish" like the plague).

tbh so many films these days try so hard and have more twists and turns than a cork screw its just too much hard work to actually watch and enjoy them, peoples lives are hard enough and movies for me are about escapism, i want a film that i can watch, get involved in and enjoy (you can have an intelligent film with out it being a pain in the arse) not one that youve gotta take notes because you dont know wtf's going on.

 

[Dukat]

I enjoyed the film, I agree it was a little on the short side but I did enjoy it.

 

[Garnet]

Aliens was the best

 

[ilaya]

yeah Ezteq. im a big fan of the orignal alien and predator films too. and i knew AVp was gonna just be a special effects laden spin off with little plot and lots of action. and thats what it is. good stuff imo nowt to do with the original series really, but good fun all the same.

as for a follow up to AVP.. hmm.. i dunno.. the alien franchise had already been shelved until AVP came along. There was meant to be a 5th Alien movie before AVP came along u know. Gates of Hell. i'd rather they made that than AVP 2 tbh

 

[confused]

Aliens was the best

personally i think Ridley Scot pwns hard to compair differnt types of movie though

 

[Sissyfoo]

Yer, different types of movie but I have to say, Aliens was THE best.

I would like to see a new aliens movie but I suspect they will cock it up so probably best not to bother.

 

[Lamp]

Yer, different types of movie but I have to say, Aliens was THE best.

I would like to see a new aliens movie but I suspect they will cock it up so probably best not to bother.

Can't believe Aliens will be 20 years old next year ! No more remakes pls. If it aint broke don't fix it.

Low Budget cast:

Ripley - Abi Titmus
Newt - Ant or Dec (they both look about 10 anyway)
Hicks - That mad Aussie bloke who wressles crocodiles
Bishop - Mr. Blobby
Burke - Timmy Mallet
Hudson - Gordon Ramsay
Gorman - Jeremy Clarkson
Vasquez - Martina Navratilova
Apone - Ray Winston / Frank Harper
Aliens - Muppets
Alien Queen - Victoria Beckham

 

[ilaya]

Spunkmeyer - Graham Norton? (look at the bloody mess in this spaceship..)

 

[Lamp]

Spunkmeyer - Graham Norton? (look at the bloody mess in this spaceship..)

LMAO

 

[Ezteq]

Can't believe Aliens will be 20 years old next year ! No more remakes pls. If it aint broke don't fix it.

Aliens - Muppets

rofl alien came out the year i was born!

and as for the muppet aliens they would rock imagine kermit fronting up to ripley and robin pops outta his mouth, classic!

 

[DocWolfe]

The aliens films are one of the few fright flicks that actually scare the shit out of me, and thats one of the reasons I love it so much. People were on about how scary the ring, the excorcist, texas chainsaw massacre etc. are but nothing really compares to an alien chasing after you, I think it's the way they are portrayed as being so real, you actually crap your pants.

 

[Tesla Monkor]

If you're a fan of the Aliens universe, try finding a copy of the old (ancient!) Aliens Roleplaying Game. It has a very detailed background on how the aliens evolve, how they grow and how they communicate with each other and the hive.

 

[ilaya]

lol the more i think of it the better it seems. The Muppets on LV426

Kermit Gulping when he comes face to face with an alien.. then miss piggy smacking it against the wall... leave my Kermy alone! HIIIYAAAA!

then they bring out the artillery. Gonzo with dynamite strapped to his arse and being fired from a cannon...

aliens surrounding Fozzie Bear and seeing he has an audience starts telling jokes.. aliens get so bored they back off and hide..

could work u know i'd watch it

 

[Ezteq]

muppets pwn,

anyhoo speaking of films with v's in title (avioding craimer v's craimer like the unholy plague it is) any one seen freddy v's jason?

bloody loved that film again high on the ole dodgy quality story line but man was a great way to spend a couple of hours good old fashoned tounge in cheek humour/gore fest and not worrying about weather it all makes sence just sit back and enjoy the ride.

 

[Sissyfoo]

Can't believe Aliens will be 20 years old next year ! No more remakes pls. If it aint broke don't fix it.

Low Budget cast:

Ripley - Abi Titmus
Newt - Ant or Dec (they both look about 10 anyway)
Hicks - That mad Aussie bloke who wressles crocodiles
Bishop - Mr. Blobby
Burke - Timmy Mallet
Hudson - Gordon Ramsay
Gorman - Jeremy Clarkson
Vasquez - Martina Navratilova
Apone - Ray Winston / Frank Harper
Aliens - Muppets
Alien Queen - Victoria Beckham

Not a remake, you spaz! I meant another Alien movie...a sequel to Ressurection!

 

[Lakashnik]

Aliens = Action film which just scares the damn poop out of me. its so well done.
alien = the scariest point blank its still hard for me to watch it alone. just strikes fear into me everytime i see it.
alien3 = not bad. like how they made the new breed of alien being faster and more agile coming from a dog.
aline resurrection = average for me. the alien birth hybrid thing was just weird. not a bad film tho.

predator = just kick ass
predator2 = kickassness with more gadgets. yay for tiger predators.

AvP = a action film. i couldnt bare thinking about it any other way. jsut so many things wrong with it from a alien or predator fan view.

Has anybody here actually read any of the books. the AvP 1s i mean. not comics. God damn amazing things. amazing storylines. when i 1st heard of film being made i hoped it would be on 1 of these.

and for AvP2 i probably will watch it an regret it like the 1st. got so many lil nitpicks about it. and for the storyline and ending of AvP. the predators are these things hunters. there is no way in hell that they wouldnt have been able to tell his body had a chestburster in it.

also quick question about AvP. my brother pointed this out to me.
That french guy dudey had his watch set to go off at 10min intervals on the basis of aztecs or whoever it was didnt work metric or whtever they worked in grps of 10..... so why on earth would they set the temple to change every 10lots of 60seconds...
maybe i have missed summat he said, brother only pointed it out to me after watching it but can any1 explain this to me? gahhh its driving me crazy.

 

[Cylian]

kinda doubt there'll be AvP2.

maybe a bit far fetched, but in "Alien" there's this big alien vessel which former crew is about 2,50m tall, strong built... and ofc chest burst from inside out.

end of AvP: Predators (2,50m tall, strong built ) load an infested Predator into their ship and head off ... to LV-426 eventually ?

 

[Aran Thule]

maybe a bit far fetched, but in "Alien" there's this big alien vessel which former crew is about 2,50m tall, strong built... and ofc chest burst from inside out.
end of AvP: Predators (2,50m tall, strong built ) load an infested Predator into their ship and head off ... to LV-426 eventually ?

The pilot was much bigger then a preditor and didnt look anything like them (unless they had trunks).
As mentioned i would have prefered them to have gone and done the storyline from the aliens comics then the way they did on alien 3.
Was another avenue they didnt follow, given the queen didnt die at the end of aliens they could have done something using her.

 

[Lamp]

The pilot was much bigger then a preditor and didnt look anything like them (unless they had trunks).
As mentioned i would have prefered them to have gone and done the storyline from the aliens comics then the way they did on alien 3.
Was another avenue they didnt follow, given the queen didnt die at the end of aliens they could have done something using her.

Umm....I could be wrong...but wasn't the Queen Alien flushed out into space by Ripley in Aliens in her yellow Robocop outfit ? So queen dead, yeah ?

 

[Chronictank]

what were the names and author(s) of the original aliens books
did a search on amazon and for 3k results :x

there is more than 1 alien queen