Assassin vs Archer debate

[Ebonn]

Urrr.. about 650ish is my perf cap unbuffed ( yes no buffbot for me ) on a grey mid

 

[Cowled]

Don't want to reply this topic, but do it anyway

This thread is going to me flame, if scouts open their mouth anyway.

I said last night to "Brommix", a lvl 50 inf, that i thought he was a bit "overpowered", when he 2 hit killed a yellow troll.

Nop - it was fair, and i should stop whining

Anyway:

My cap (47 longbow) - 1011 with CS.
Normal shot - 5xx (i can't remember exactly).

But i will never get a CS on a caster, and wont do 1000 dmg on a tank - max on a tank is 650 dmg (i did that on a little blue chain-healer).
Els it's 500 dmg, i do that on most tanks.

/Cowled - The nerfy

 

[-Lonewolf-]

Well I got a new rapier sword last night and now I crit shot for 688

so I am happy should get it well upto the 900's when 1.50 and Realm Abilities appear! WOOHOO

I cannot wait!

 

[old.Akirai]

But i will never get a CS on a caster,

Easy. Crit hit, Crit hit again. What i always do. 4 sec crit and 4 sec regular, so why not keep critting on casters and instrument holders

 

[taromas]

My damage is capped at 810 (at lvl 42)

 

[Tranquil-]

my crit cap is 831 with bow of ill omen, 89% qual. at lvl 41

 

[Aussie-]

Originally posted by old.Akirai


Easy. Crit hit, Crit hit again. What i always do. 4 sec crit and 4 sec regular, so why not keep critting on casters and instrument holders

actually the 4.x is hidden now, so your crits are 4.8/4.9 and normals are 4.0/4.1
168 quick gives you 4.0/4.8 ( with 5.2 bow)
175 quick gives you 3.9/4.7 ( with 5.2 bow)

dunno if it's very smart to keep shooting crits, most yellow hib casters i know have pretty fast reactions and wont allow you to do a crit again, actually if you dont kill ppl like gobarnachta/crey/darkelf fast enough then you're stunned and n00ked to dead


nerf Paralyse :>

 

[Tranquil-]

Originally posted by Aussie-


actually the 4.x is hidden now, so your crits are 4.8/4.9 and normals are 4.0/4.1
168 quick gives you 4.0/4.8 ( with 5.2 bow)
175 quick gives you 3.9/4.7 ( with 5.2 bow)

If load times are x.5 or above it's rounded upwards.
x.4 is rounded downwards.

 

[old.Akirai]

Still i always do a double crit on casters for a 1 shot, sometimes 2. .3 of a sec aint that much difference for over double the damage off the shot.

 

[old.Akirai]

Crit now capped at 1011

 

[Release]

Originally posted by Tranquil-
Casters are the ones with uber damage output, with lower casttime. Casters can fire 2 bolts in 2.5 sec for total damage of 1500+ without a crit hit. There is a chance that this damage could reach 3000 points.

You would never be able to hit a tank with bolts for that much, the abs factor on armour reduces bolt dmg, also if they hold a shield, well dont even bother.
On a caster/rogue it is possible.
Oh and btw, bolts have 4sec casting time, then add the time the bolt takes to reach the target thats about 5secs.

 

[Danya]

Bah release beat me, was going to say a caster can't nuke twice in 2.5 secs let alone bolt.

 

[Tranquil-]

Uhm, what about buffs? Who cares about the time it takes for the bolt to land, it's still going to land. And if you can fire the second bolt before the first one hits, that's even better.
With archers the target can see the direction the archer attacked from, even if the archer misses a shot the arrow still sticks to the target and reveals the archer.

And we are now talking about POTENTIAL damage, it's not like archers or casters hit their crit cap every time.

 

[laenna]

??? what damage to casters???

i am a caster and the best shot on me was for 800 what are you saying about 1500?? or 3000??? are you drinking? P

 

[Cowled]

Re: ??? what damage to casters???

Originally posted by laenna
i am a caster and the best shot on me was for 800 what are you saying about 1500?? or 3000??? are you drinking? P

No one ever talked about 3000 dmg from a bow.

That would be kinda insane.