Artifact strategies involving NPCs?

[Stratum]

Lately I have seen a few groups make use of NPCs such as haven guards in completing some artifact encounters; notably, Cyrek (Jacina's Sash) seems to routinely be killed using buffed Aerus Haven guards, and I seem to remember Itet (Crocodile's Tooth) be kited to Stygia Haven to be killed there. This seems a little strange to me; how is it that you get artifact drops from this kind of strategy? Will not the fact that NPCs hit the mob mean that you don't get any loot at all? Or is this only possible for the special artifact mobs who don't drop their artifact as normal loot (i.e. in the "green" loot list), i.e. Eramai and Danos? For instance, I am currently toying with the idea of trying to kill the Healer's Embrace Cloak mob this way, does anyone know if it is possible?

Comments welcome.

 

[Zebolt]

When you do it that way, you let the NPC die when Cyrek is on low health and you finnish him off with dmg shield or tanks. If the NPC get the final hit you don't get any loot.

 

[Starwind]

Doing it that way does not encourage grouping really, which is getting less and less of if you ask me.

If you have to revert to having the mob killed by NPC's, then its its only a matter of time before Mythic catch on to this, as this is considered an exploit to me , ive have built some RPG worlds, and our team would have considered this as an exploit, so i would think twice about abusing NPC's.

 

[Mordur]

and animists soloing steps like those isnt an exploit then ofcourse

 

[Mikal]

if you have aggro when the mob dies, you will get the drops. It's usually a tactic used for very tough encounters that normally need 2fg's to do. wouldn't really recommend doing it with healers embrace, as this can be done with 3-4 people np, and not worth risking that you wont get the drop because a guard has aggro when it dies, especially as the cloak is a low chance drop already

 

[Loch]

It's actually frowned upon by goa, if you read the friday news~

 

[Mordur]

since when is roleplaying prohibited btw?

cyrek is a threat to all of atlantis, we call the guards of aerus to our aid when vanquishing the vile creature and his guard.

for the good of Atlantis!

whats wrong with a little creativity in killing monsters? if a person is able to kill cyrek without aid of cheats, why shouldnt he do it?

i would think this is perfectly legal in any way, and there's nothing either goa or mythic can do about it.

btw: goa, give back wedding & booze/food npc's !

 

[Zebolt]

If you have to revert to having the mob killed by NPC's, then its its only a matter of time before Mythic catch on to this, as this is considered an exploit to me , ive have built some RPG worlds, and our team would have considered this as an exploit, so i would think twice about abusing NPC's.

Both Mythic and GOA are well aware of this but it's not seen as an exploit. They implement changes to make the mobs stay at their "homes", in 1.70 for Cyrek in example.

 

[Stratum]

Actually, Jake and Fabri helped me get HE this morning, so I guess I won't be trying it. Thanks a lot, guys!

 

[Inca]

I agree with Mordur and lets be honest if some of the artifact encounters wern't so annoying then life would be a lot more fun. The Skotos ae uber bolt bullshit that can wipe out 6fg's in seconds, i reckon that deters a lot of people from "conventionally" killing mobs such as cyrek. If things like Cyrek loot bug, Silverhorn many bugs and other arti's that didn't bug all the time, people might be more willing to have a laugh doing them. Cause of the out right frustration at trying to get a template (lets not even mention mls) together people have to use the easiest way possible. Sadly not many guilds in the game can regularly put out enough people to do itet without using the guards and less yet to challenge Cyrek for Jacina's so they use initative to do the encounters.

Most of the people complaining are those that can't pull it off guards or not.