Artifact stealer Teifling

[Bone's]

I know there is nothing in the GOA rules about camping an arti, but we all do it from time to time.... so on to what happened.....


Been camping Gem of the Lost Memories on and off for about 4 days IRL and it is know to have a poor pop rate, maybe the reason for the arti having a 10 plat price tag in CM, for which is only a lvl 30 arti...

i was with a sm, when it popped and was logging in my hunter who needed credit, when i looked up another sm (TEIFLING) had come up and pulled Night Terror,

No pm, no hello, just bang off he goes starts killing the mob.... i shout to him it is my mob, and he just carrys on, then afterwards he said he is not talking about it and leaves... but going on the name it sounds like a thief.... just thought i would bring it to peeps attention....

NO doubt i will get peeps saying it was not pulled so it was anyones, but as we all know there is a player agreement between most about camped arti's...

i just find it sad that he would do something like that....

 

[Etta]

Could it be he just logged in to c if it was up at the same moment u logged out, and then saw no1 was there and then just did the kill while u were logging your hunter back in ? In that case i can't really blame him, cuz he would just think u did the same and was a sec l8r to log in than him !
If this is the case, and knowing Teifling, i suggest that u allways camp an arti with the character u're gonna use for the kill, that way no mistakes like this will ever happen !

Etta

 

[Bone's]

nope was not the case i was loading hunter on 2nd account on my laptop so i was in full view and i was not alone. there was a sm with me

 

[inqy]

I've done the encounter after a 10hour camp. It's a right bastard spawn rate. and it doesn't drop much I hear (didn't for me )

 

[arawem]

This flame post is nonsense, and hope admins delete it soon.

Although your right that asking before a pull is allways nice, the mob was not urs as camping is not allowed so, according to CoC, Teifling is NOT a stealer.

 

[Cider]

IMO this is against the CoC and therefore imo TEIFLING should be baned.

From CoC
"Users are expected to show respect for one another, to contribute to the cordial atmosphere of the game."

Strange way this TEIFLING show his "respect" !!!!

\Cider

 

[aveh]

Surely this thread was made out of frustration that a 10 hour wait came to nothing. It's always a mistake to post within 24 hours of being legitimately shafted ingame. Like drinking and driving really.

D:

Cider, your interpretation of the rules would have everybody in prison. I hope the subject line is changed soon so that people who do not read the thread and merely see the subject line in the index do not get the wrong impression of a player who has done what 99.9% of Prydwen players would have done.

 

[Iceflower]

There are no camping regulations in this game, though common curtesy and respect for your fellow realm mates are expected behavour for the social community to function.

And Cider, was that post some kind of sarcasm?

>Been camping Gem of the Lost Memories on and off for about 4 days IRL and it is know to have a poor pop rate, maybe the reason for the arti having a 10 plat price tag in CM, for which is only a lvl 30 arti...

The spawn and drop rate on this is bizarre, you will have a significant set back in your leveling pace if you decide to camp it before level 50 which makes you wonder about the purpose of the arti. Was it to provide some artifacts for level 50 chars that are easy to level or that would help chars that levels? The second it aint with the current rules set. Or if was designe to be, then the design team must be very far off from the real player communities.

 

[Kvadi]

what 99.9% of Prydwen players would have done.

Don't think so. If almost everyone in Prydwen would do this kind of thing I for one wouldn't be playing here. Certainly hasn't been my experience anyway. Courtesy is a big part of the game and imo a majority show it.

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[Bone's]

is no problem arawen next it is you you might not be so ready to defend

like i said on my first part, i know camping is not part of the CoC but comman curtisty is, is like me running in front of a BG group and hitting the mob first so i get encounter or bug the encounter for them, i would not do it, but he basically knew i was there, as he said he did not wanna discuss it so he knew i was why i was there.... he still basically stole it from under my nose... and why have i not got a valid reason for the flame, and i know ur going to preach CoC arawem blah blah blah... still wrong in my book, and i surpose u have never waited for an arti to pop MY ARSE

This flame post is nonsense, and hope admins delete it soon.

Although your right that asking before a pull is allways nice, the mob was not urs as camping is not allowed so, according to CoC, Teifling is NOT a stealer.

 

[Frust]

I hope the subject line is changed soon so that people who do not read the thread and merely see the subject line in the index do not get the wrong impression of a player who has done what 99.9% of Prydwen players would have done.

I sure will keep a lookout for the names in your siggy if thats your method. I would never dream of hijacking a arti mob who was camped by someone. I myself know the frustration of camping, but luckily for my keyboard none has ever "stolen" a mob like that from me (i know it isnt stealing according to CoC, according to me and my whole alliance it is though).

Im not saying this guy stole the mob, i wasnt there, i didnt see it. Perhaps he didnt see anyone camping. Perhaps he came from the other side of the island and saw the mob before he saw the guy camping. Its a bit more difficult with an lowbie artifact like this since its easy to solo.

The reason that im posting is that you think that 99,9 of Prydwens population would just step in and ignore common courtsey and steal a mob. I would rather think that 0,1 would be foul enough to do it.

 

[Zlugugg Benvis]

Don't think so. If almost everyone in Prydwen would do this kind of thing I for one wouldn't be playing here. Certainly hasn't been my experience anyway. Courtesy is a big part of the game and imo a majority show it.

I'll say no more than that...

Ug ... amen.

 

[snarf]

As in RL some people cant even show common curtesy and respect for others....sad but no news!

 

[aveh]

LOL, incredible. The thread starters story smells of so much bullshit, and if you actually READ IT instead of skimming through it, locking on to "Artifact stealer", and going "YOU EVIL BASTARD!", you might see that too.

If the line that he was apparently camping an artifact with an SM that he wanted for his HUNTER doesn't ring alarm bells (hey, if you were wasting hours looking at the same empty spot, don't you think you'd be just -slightly- ready to go the millisecond it popped?), then perhaps that he judged the person based on his name (Hey "Teifling" sound like "Thief" doesn't it? It must be true!!) might set you thinking. Or perhaps the fuzzy "Been camping on and off for 4 days IRL" as opposed to what I would consider as some basis for a claim - ie.. "I had been camped at the spot for 6 straight hours waiting for the spawn", well that might set you wondering too.

Hey, I too can log each of my level 50s at an arti spawn, log them in occasionally, and make the EXACT SAME CLAIM on any of those artis. Exactly how much camping is required before it becomes My Artifact, and I can name anyone a thief who tries to take it away from me? Naturally all of this is covered in the details of the aforementioned "Player Agreement", which will obviously have been posted on this forum and been referenced to in several previous threads (as it should have been referenced to in this thread before these bullshit accusations were made).

As for you little high and mighty carebears who are going to be hunting my artifact-stealing bad-mouthing alts down and yelling at me ingame for being such a bastard, you might be waiting a while. My subs dropped last week and it will be a few months at least until I renew them. Regardless, I've surrendered more awesome loots out of "courtesy" than you probably have ever seen so, as a friend of mine would say, i have TWO WORDS for you.







Ahhhhh, been so long since I had a rant.

 

[charmangle]

Just short message about this...

Well the rules of Conduct was never written to be taken litterary...the intention of the rules are simple...and we all know this...some people just like to try to explain it away just so that they can achive easy gotten items.

Intention of the rules of conduct is in my opinion:
Try to behave as you would have others behave towards you.
This would interpret too:
If someone is fighting a mob dont go in and steal it, if someone is going to fight a mob have the decency to either wait 10-15 mins to see what happens or ask if its okay that you take it.

In the described case it wouldnt have cost teifling more than 10 seconds of time to ask first...the point of not asking somone at an encounter is almost ALWAYS just to try to get around common sense rules of conduct.

We all know this...or should know this...its basic conduct in all parts of human relations. Real life and game.

Just a word of advice to all that concider this type of conduct reasonable...
with the community growing smaller and smaller in daoc the tolerance level of people will grow shorter and shorter...and pretty soon
all players will fall back on this kind of behaviour.

Ask yourself is that the Midgard you want to play in.

And if you ask any Daoc rep im pretty sure they will give you the same answere I have...

/Charmangle

 

[Bone's]

hmmmm

well dick that was ur name right ?? or was it Mr.head if you would like to pop on to the game and ask within my guild Char name btw is Cindy 50 shaman (Time) or in /as you might find peeps who logged on at same place and see me standing there, but not jujst standing there but chatting and even buffing a few hunters who was after the encounter but kill the harpies while we waited. in fact it had become a daily occurance same peeps logging on chating and then logging...... so before you start your 13year old acne face rant about something you know nothing about SHUT the F*ck up..... im doing the realm of mid a favour by warning you that this player has no morals and is quite willing just to run up and take it for him self (or maybe your his mum come on to defend him i dont know )

LOL, incredible. The thread starters story smells of so much bullshit, and if you actually READ IT instead of skimming through it, locking on to "Artifact stealer", and going "YOU EVIL BASTARD!", you might see that too.

If the line that he was apparently camping an artifact with an SM that he wanted for his HUNTER doesn't ring alarm bells (hey, if you were wasting hours looking at the same empty spot, don't you think you'd be just -slightly- ready to go the millisecond it popped?), then perhaps that he judged the person based on his name (Hey "Teifling" sound like "Thief" doesn't it? It must be true!!) might set you thinking. Or perhaps the fuzzy "Been camping on and off for 4 days IRL" as opposed to what I would consider as some basis for a claim - ie.. "I had been camped at the spot for 6 straight hours waiting for the spawn", well that might set you wondering too.

Hey, I too can log each of my level 50s at an arti spawn, log them in occasionally, and make the EXACT SAME CLAIM on any of those artis. Exactly how much camping is required before it becomes My Artifact, and I can name anyone a thief who tries to take it away from me? Naturally all of this is covered in the details of the aforementioned "Player Agreement", which will obviously have been posted on this forum and been referenced to in several previous threads (as it should have been referenced to in this thread before these bullshit accusations were made).

As for you little high and mighty carebears who are going to be hunting my artifact-stealing bad-mouthing alts down and yelling at me ingame for being such a bastard, you might be waiting a while. My subs dropped last week and it will be a few months at least until I renew them. Regardless, I've surrendered more awesome loots out of "courtesy" than you probably have ever seen so, as a friend of mine would say, i have TWO WORDS for you.







Ahhhhh, been so long since I had a rant.

 

[Msdot]

tbh try talk Teifling ingame then talk crap here.. understand fully why he dont listen person like you since you dont manage discuss mature way and start claim immediately that his very evil person which he isint, hard to find more helpful peeps in game really but your kind of people just waits to get reason to flame anyone so cant really understand that ''doing favor for midgard'' part

 

[Foadon]

he took it mommy! make him gib it back!

 

[(Mid)Feydigi]

he took it mommy! make him gib it back!

It Was Foadon's alt brun him ... i mean :eek2:

Still not nice when this thing happen but not much you can do about it

 

[Marcus75]

Sorry to hear it...there are lots of idiots around that only care for themselfs...people who come up right in front of you and attacks the mob, people who camp an artifact in stealth and seem to think thats perfectly ok too, people who port away with SoM.

In the end one can only feel sad for the selfish greedy bastards that does this since they probably are as thick and selfish ingame as they are out of it.

 

[Bone's]

hmmm welll i tried to talk in game

but funny enough he did not reply to my pm's and when i contacted the GM of his guild of which i hasten to ad could do nothing but applogise for his actions, and was even told that he had spoken with him, but he would not repeat what he said (AH so there's the Mr.nice your talking about) and i was mature i pm'd him, but no joy.... so he left me no option but to put this flame on here.... the guild he belongs to seemed to me realy nice, know a couple from it.... shame it had to come to this but..... if i dont say anything then maybe he will get the idea in his head that it is ok to do what he has done..... anyway over 500+ peeps have seen this so it is doing some good.... ALSO 1 more point u jump up to defend him, why dont he defend himself ????
maybe the truth hurts ??

tbh try talk Teifling ingame then talk crap here.. understand fully why he dont listen person like you since you dont manage discuss mature way and start claim immediately that his very evil person which he isint, hard to find more helpful peeps in game really but your kind of people just waits to get reason to flame anyone so cant really understand that ''doing favor for midgard'' part

 

[Starwind]

Teifling should be dropped from the guild, he/she as acted like greedy and selfish child.

His/she reply saying " I dont want to talk about it " sums it up really, total disrepect.

To all GM's keeping these sort of people in your guilds, are only promoting this kind of thing, and remember not all people reply so they know what is going on believe me.

 

[Udgaardsloke]

tbh i must say that i fully understand why you get pissed (if you are telling the truth... havent checked hehe) and i mean he should get kicked from his guild... but still he isnt here to defend himself and i find that wierd... but not everyone checks freddys house.. even tho you would think a lvl 50 do... but nvm.. we only have one side of the story...

 

[Msdot]

Teifling should be dropped from the guild, he/she as acted like greedy and selfish child.

His/she reply saying " I dont want to talk about it " sums it up really, total disrepect.

To all GM's keeping these sort of people in your guilds, are only promoting this kind of thing, and remember not all people reply so they know what is going on believe me.

abit fast to judge eh? afterall no screenshots etc yet seen where he take artifact etc and most people ready to burn guy alive, find that sad really.

 

[Bone's]

Sorry i did not think to corden off the crime scene, my first reaction was speak with him, no joy, pm him, no joy, do /who teifling, then pm one who belonged to the guild to see if a gm was on, i did find one on, but for the love of me i did not keep notes or a diary of the event..... asked gm to speak with him, he did so, the gm even offered to help me in anyway he could, i,e camp spot (but if i want an arti, im prepared to wait and do what is required).... anyway i hope he enjoys the arti, i have mine, another couple of camping session's and pop but i managed to make sure i was sat on spawn this time, so when it did pop, it was all over me like a rash to teifling

:bazbeer: got lvl 10 on orions belt, not bad for a lvl 34 hunter, with encounters on traitors dagger, belt of sun, dreamsphere, and ring of unyeilding will (oh and most importantly lost gem of memories)

 

[mercury]

camping

Common courtesy normally prevails even on Night Terror Island, but we sometimes forget players are often kids who have never been taught manners. If swimming a circuit there and you arrive on the Island and someone is there - so be it - move on. On the other hand if no-one is there you've got it. I do exactly that, except that one time I'd been there 10mins or so when up pops this guy who says
"I suppoose you know I'm camping this mob?"
"You weren't here when I arrived" sez I.
"Yes I was," he replies. " I was stealthed".
I took the mob.
Then there's them as puts a bot near Eremi and claims to be camping Cloudsong....

 

[Zebolt]

but going on the name it sounds like a thief....

Tiefling is a race. When a demon mates with a human the offspring is a tiefling. I guess you don't care much about that since you lost your artifact but if you didn't know now you do

 

[atos]

Funny how you see random mids whine on eachother thru forums. I wish forums could be used in a more constructive matter.

Money is far easier to farm then to spend 4 days for a arti.

 

[Bone's]

very true m8, but if peeps did not act like this then there would be no thread.... and aye, 4 days farming for gold would proberly buy the arti a couple of times over, but it is not just the arti, it is the encounter

 

[Zebolt]

but it is not just the arti, it is the encounter

You can allways ask to join his BG or make a new one while he is killing the mob and you will get encounter too :>